First Amendment Anyone?

by **Andialandia** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:13 pm

Our current president, President Trump, in speeches praises the first amendment as, 'a great thing' yet he tells people to stop rioting as well as not allowing news sources into a meeting? Doesn't the first amendment say freedom of speech and public gathering? How is Trump allowed to say this? Thoughts anyone?

by **Thermodolia** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:14 pm

My thought is get a blog.

by **Xelsis** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:14 pm

Andialandia wrote:Our current president, President Trump, in speeches praises the first amendment as, 'a great thing' yet he tells people to stop rioting as well as not allowing news sources into a meeting? Doesn't the first amendment say freedom of speech and public gathering? How is Trump allowed to say this? Thoughts anyone?

Because of the First Amendment.

Should have seen that one coming.

by **Andialandia** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:20 pm

by **Alozia** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:49 pm

Andialandia wrote:Our current president, President Trump, in speeches praises the first amendment as, 'a great thing' yet he tells people to stop rioting [...]

Key word - tells. Also destroing property is not freedom of speech.

Andialandia wrote: as well as not allowing news sources into a meeting?

Once again not freedom of speech. He is not banning them from speaking. He just banned them from attending the meeting.

Andialandia wrote:Doesn't the first amendment say freedom of speech and public gathering?

None of things mentioned have anything to do with either. Don't get me wrong you have the right to protest, but do it peacefully.

P.S. Better expand this OP before this thread gets locked

Thermodolia wrote:My thought is get a blog.

EDIT: Rules for writing an OP: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=88796
(scroll down a post or two)

by **Central Asian Republics** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:26 pm

Rioting is not covered under Freedom of Speech as it involves the destruction of private property.

by **Great Minarchistan** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:30 pm

Alozia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:My thought is get a blog.

EDIT: Rules for writing an OP: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=88796
(scroll down a post or two)

He didn't start the thread either, not Thermo's fault.

by **Union of Despotistan** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:41 pm

Andialandia wrote:Our current president, President Trump, in speeches praises the first amendment as, 'a great thing' yet he tells people to stop rioting as well as not allowing news sources into a meeting? Doesn't the first amendment say freedom of speech and public gathering? How is Trump allowed to say this? Thoughts anyone?

That is exactly because he keeps praising the First Amendement that he's doing all theses things.

The mainstream media -Fox lambaste him day and night without an ounce of objectivity (Fox have little on the other side of the scale, I admit) and it hasn't stopped since the very first day he announced running for President of USA.
Everyone not criticizing him, his administration or their ideology risk being ostracized by the leftists masses who tend to be more and more violent.

More and more violent like the riots you talk about. Theses are not peaceful protests, people are injured and things are being burnt/destroyed by bums, paid protesters and anarchists who completely discredit anyone who wants to incite dialogue and speech between the 2 sides.
Protecting public peace and order is also a Duty of the elected representatives so everyone can benefit from a safe country.

by **Farnhamia** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:47 pm

Andialandia wrote:Our current president, President Trump, in speeches praises the first amendment as, 'a great thing' yet he tells people to stop rioting as well as not allowing news sources into a meeting? Doesn't the first amendment say freedom of speech and public gathering? How is Trump allowed to say this? Thoughts anyone?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The President is entitled to an opinion and I'm pretty sure that rioting is not protected speech under the 1st Amendment.

by **Infected Mushroom** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:29 pm

He's doing the right thing since rioting is dangerous

by **Auldenland** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:30 pm

Xelsis wrote:
Andialandia wrote:Our current president, President Trump, in speeches praises the first amendment as, 'a great thing' yet he tells people to stop rioting as well as not allowing news sources into a meeting? Doesn't the first amendment say freedom of speech and public gathering? How is Trump allowed to say this? Thoughts anyone?

Because of the First Amendment.

Should have seen that one coming.

que inception BWAAH

by **Populi-Terrae** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:31 pm

Andialandia wrote:Our current president, President Trump, in speeches praises the first amendment as, 'a great thing' yet he tells people to stop rioting as well as not allowing news sources into a meeting? Doesn't the first amendment say freedom of speech and public gathering? How is Trump allowed to say this? Thoughts anyone?

He will pay for this. The media will eviscerate him.

by **Outer Sparta** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:32 pm

Can you write or revise a better OP?

Anyways, he called the free press "the enemy of the people." What's next, ditching freedom of the press and initiating his own press?

by **Populi-Terrae** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:33 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Can you write or revise a better OP?

Anyways, he called the free press "the enemy of the people." What's next, ditching freedom of the press and initiating his own press?

That would definetely be against the First Amendment,

by **Infected Mushroom** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:59 pm

Populi-Terrae wrote:
Andialandia wrote:Our current president, President Trump, in speeches praises the first amendment as, 'a great thing' yet he tells people to stop rioting as well as not allowing news sources into a meeting? Doesn't the first amendment say freedom of speech and public gathering? How is Trump allowed to say this? Thoughts anyone?

He will pay for this. The media will eviscerate him.

Political correctness has never been his forte.

by **Aclion** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:02 pm

Rioting is not peaceable assembly

Press conferences are not public gatherings.

by **Populi-Terrae** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:25 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Populi-Terrae wrote:
He will pay for this. The media will eviscerate him.

Political correctness has never been his forte.

This isn't a matter of political correctness. This is a matter of Trump silencing the media so they'll stop speaking out against him. This is a matter of freedom of speech.

by **Populi-Terrae** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:27 pm

Aclion wrote:Rioting is not peaceable assembly

Press conferences are not public gatherings.

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I agree with you on rioting, but not about press conferences. The press is supposed to represent the public when they are sitting and listening to Sean Spicer. Listening to a politician speak is the definition of a public gathering.

by **Fake Korea** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:36 pm

Outer Sparta wrote: –snip– initiating his own press?

It's called Breitbart. But the ammendment in question is the one that lets Bannon and Trump whisper their agendas in each others' ears...

But, more relevantly, you can ban press from your property, the same way you can ban me from your property. And these riots are violent-the First Ammendment's kind of irrelevant.

by **Infected Mushroom** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:45 pm

Populi-Terrae wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Political correctness has never been his forte.

This isn't a matter of political correctness. This is a matter of Trump silencing the media so they'll stop speaking out against him. This is a matter of freedom of speech.

he's just doing it to maintain law and order, so I'm okay with this

by **Populi-Terrae** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:46 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Populi-Terrae wrote:
This isn't a matter of political correctness. This is a matter of Trump silencing the media so they'll stop speaking out against him. This is a matter of freedom of speech.

he's just doing it to maintain law and order, so I'm okay with this

You can't be serious.

by **Infected Mushroom** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:49 pm

Populi-Terrae wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
he's just doing it to maintain law and order, so I'm okay with this

You can't be serious.

If people riot, then the government can't govern effectively; I expect the President to do what is necessary

by **Mikoyansk** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:05 pm

Populi-Terrae wrote:
Aclion wrote:Rioting is not peaceable assembly

Press conferences are not public gatherings.

(Image)

I agree with you on rioting, but not about press conferences. The press is supposed to represent the public when they are sitting and listening to Sean Spicer. Listening to a politician speak is the definition of a public gathering.

This also was not held in the White House Press Room, it was held in Sean Spicer's personal office.

by **The Portland Territory** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:07 pm

I like the First Amendment

And the Second one

Especially the Second one, that one's fun

by **Hakons** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:45 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:I like the First Amendment

And the Second one

Especially the Second one, that one's fun

I like the tenth amendment

*politicians burst in laughter*

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