by Luziyca » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:06 pm
by DAFT Universe » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:10 pm
by Luziyca » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:12 pm
DAFT Universe wrote:*solid state drive blows*
Sooo... like the matrix?
You could be right... you can't prove you're wrong anyway.
by Imperial Esplanade » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:14 pm
Luziyca wrote:As I hear mentions of "fake news" over various issues, and the soul-crippling realization that humanity is inherently cruel and barbaric to others, I am starting to wonder if it is a good idea to find comfort in the fact that perhaps reality as we know it is just a product of your imagination. And I don't mean the social reality, I mean objective reality itself.
Think about it deeply: you have spent your whole life only experiencing it from one perspective: yours. Of course you see other people kicking about and going on their day-to-day business. But how do you know that they are not just a figment of your imagination? How do you know that this screen that you are reading this actually exists, and not just a figment of your imagination? How do you know that this is not just an illusion designed to protect us from something that is far more terrifying than we can ever dare to imagine? Or worse still, that this is actually a form of torture?
Sure, you can feel your arms. Your toes. Your eyes. You open your mouth and say some things, and you hear a response. But how do you know that response actually exists, and not just something that your brain imagined up?
Hell, perhaps for irrational numbers, which Vsauce claims "keep reality real," our brains just pretend that these numbers are infinite, and generate a new decimal place after we discover each number so to not question the very nature of objective reality itself.
So, what do you think, NSG? Is there such a thing as objective reality? Or am I, like everything you have read or heard or observed, just a figment of your imagination?
Personally, while I operate under the theory that there is such a thing as objective reality, at the same time, it is comforting to know that there is a chance that this whole reality thing is fake.
But the Lord stood by me, and gave me strength. (2 Timothy 4:17)One of the keys to happiness is a bad memory. (Rita Mae Brown)
by United Muscovite Nations » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:14 pm
by Gurori » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:14 pm
by Oldenfranck » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:15 pm
by Hirota » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:16 pm
Burden of proof is upon the person making the claim, not upon the person contesting it.DAFT Universe wrote:*solid state drive blows*
Sooo... like the matrix?
You could be right... you can't prove you're wrong anyway.
by Dytarma » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:18 pm
by Imperial Esplanade » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:18 pm
Hirota wrote:Burden of proof is upon the person making the claim, not upon the person contesting it.DAFT Universe wrote:*solid state drive blows*
Sooo... like the matrix?
You could be right... you can't prove you're wrong anyway.
Anyway, we know how people act with other realities - we see people immersing themselves in video games, films and other forms. We do it in this reality as a form of escapism, therefore if we assume that this reality is a fabrication, we can reasonably assume that this reality is a form of escapism for whoever dreamt it up - implying their reality is worse than this one. Not sure how you can find that reassuring.
But the Lord stood by me, and gave me strength. (2 Timothy 4:17)One of the keys to happiness is a bad memory. (Rita Mae Brown)
by Luziyca » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:19 pm
Hirota wrote:Burden of proof is upon the person making the claim, not upon the person contesting it.DAFT Universe wrote:*solid state drive blows*
Sooo... like the matrix?
You could be right... you can't prove you're wrong anyway.
Anyway, we know how people act with other realities - we see people immersing themselves in video games, films and other forms. We do it in this reality as a form of escapism, therefore if we assume that this reality is a fabrication, we can reasonably assume that this reality is a form of escapism for whoever dreamt it up - implying their reality is worse than this one. Not sure how you can find that reassuring.
by Xelsis » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:19 pm
by Luziyca » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:20 pm
Dytarma wrote:Wait, if reality is fake, then what would fantasy be?
Xelsis wrote:Yeah, your reality is fake. Sorry to break it to you. Mine's real though. Pretty sweet stuff here.
by Xelsis » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:21 pm
Luziyca wrote:Dytarma wrote:Wait, if reality is fake, then what would fantasy be?
What us humans consider "fantasy."Xelsis wrote:Yeah, your reality is fake. Sorry to break it to you. Mine's real though. Pretty sweet stuff here.
I am pretty sure that my reality exists. For all I know, you are just text on a screen with a witty flag and signature.
by Hirota » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:21 pm
Well, burden of proof is upon you to prove that A) this reality isn't real, and B) the reality that created this one is worse than this one.Luziyca wrote:Hirota wrote:Burden of proof is upon the person making the claim, not upon the person contesting it.
Anyway, we know how people act with other realities - we see people immersing themselves in video games, films and other forms. We do it in this reality as a form of escapism, therefore if we assume that this reality is a fabrication, we can reasonably assume that this reality is a form of escapism for whoever dreamt it up - implying their reality is worse than this one. Not sure how you can find that reassuring.
Or a form of torture.
by Dytarma » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:21 pm
Luziyca wrote:Dytarma wrote:Wait, if reality is fake, then what would fantasy be?
What us humans consider "fantasy."Xelsis wrote:Yeah, your reality is fake. Sorry to break it to you. Mine's real though. Pretty sweet stuff here.
I am pretty sure that my reality exists. For all I know, you are just text on a screen with a witty flag and signature.
by Xelsis » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:22 pm
by Luziyca » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:25 pm
by Luziyca » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:26 pm
by Dytarma » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:26 pm
by Vulkata II » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:28 pm
Great Tawil wrote:The thing is I hate fighting. I just wanna draw flags and make friends
by Xelsis » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:28 pm
by Luziyca » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:29 pm
by Hirota » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:30 pm
Burden of proof is upon the person making the claim, not upon the one disputing it. You made the claim in your opening post, ergo, burden is upon you.
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