Favorite Political leader in history!

[Hesse Darmstadt]

Either Corneliu Zelea Codreanu or George Lincoln Rockwell.

[The Realm of Lordaeron]

I'd say Lyndon b Johnson.

I'd say the Vietnam War really overshadowed so many of the great things that he did.

Civil rights making sure the Negroes have the right to vote he got rid of all the literacy tests he instituted like Medicare/Medicaid and so many other great programs that we take advantage of today as part of his Great Society. He made a great investments in education as well as expanding Social Security he did so much for our country that I think a lot of people seem to ignore. In fact I would say he is just as if not more influential in the programs we take advantage of today then FDR.

He was just able to move the wheels of Congress no way no president has since or before.

[USACM]

Only counting leaders, not all politicians
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt
2. Barack H. Obama
3. Lyndon B. Johnson

[The Realm of Lordaeron]

Only counting leaders, not all politicians
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt
2. Barack H. Obama
3. Lyndon B. Johnson

I think it's too early to really judge the legacy of Barack Obama.

I think he did too many great things including getting rid of pre-existing conditions and expanding Medicare and I really helped a lot of people. I don't doubt that he was a good president, but I really question his ranking when you have Abraham Lincoln and Lyndon B Johnson Franklin Delano Roosevelt on the list.

He's definitely the top 10 maybe even the top five. But I highly doubt my personal opinion that he's the top three given the competition is up against.

[USACM]

Only counting leaders, not all politicians
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt
2. Barack H. Obama
3. Lyndon B. Johnson

I think it's too early to really judge the legacy of Barack Obama.

I think he did too many great things including getting rid of pre-existing conditions and expanding Medicare and I really helped a lot of people. I don't doubt that he was a good president, but I really question his ranking when you have Abraham Lincoln and Lyndon B Johnson Franklin Delano Roosevelt on the list.

He's definitely the top 10 maybe even the top five. But I highly doubt my personal opinion that he's the top three given the competition is up against.

Sorry, just my personal opinion, but he is definitely in the top 5 for me. It's not just the fact that he was the first African American President, his life is the literal definition of the American Dream, grew up not very well off, but he also faced Republican obstruction in Congress and still managed to get stuff done which will go down in the history books. He has definitely cemented his name in history books forever. And yes it is a little too early to judge his accomplishments, but someone probably said Donald Trump somewhere on here already.

[The Realm of Lordaeron]

I think it's too early to really judge the legacy of Barack Obama.

I think he did too many great things including getting rid of pre-existing conditions and expanding Medicare and I really helped a lot of people. I don't doubt that he was a good president, but I really question his ranking when you have Abraham Lincoln and Lyndon B Johnson Franklin Delano Roosevelt on the list.

He's definitely the top 10 maybe even the top five. But I highly doubt my personal opinion that he's the top three given the competition is up against.

Sorry, just my personal opinion, but he is definitely in the top 5 for me. It's not just the fact that he was the first African American President, his life is the literal definition of the American Dream, grew up not very well off, but he also faced Republican obstruction in Congress and still managed to get stuff done which will go down in the history books. He has definitely cemented his name in history books forever. And yes it is a little too early to judge his accomplishments, but someone probably said Donald Trump somewhere on here already.

Fair enough. It is your favorite political leader in history thread. But I was thinking more along the lines of my most favorite in terms of what they've accomplished.

[Gim]

Richard Nix-


WOAH WOAH WOAH.. I'm joking, guys.


But I'm not joking when I say George W. Bush.

You like the attacks he made on Iraq?

[Ban Pho]

Favorite leader huh-

Charles XII

[Gim]

Favorite leader huh-

Charles XII

Isn't he the one who guillotined his wives?

[Ban Pho]

Favorite leader huh-

Charles XII

Isn't he the one who guillotined his wives?

He was never married.

Only with the Swedish Army.

[The New Earth Federation]

My two choices are either Otto Von Brismarck or Niccolò Machiavelli. I like Otto von Brismarck because he was a skilled politician as he reunited the Germanic kingdoms into Germany, he also help industrialized Germany into a formidable war machine. As for Niccolò Machiavelli, it was because of his book the Prince that really got me into politics (also great book, a short book but it's written in an older style of writing). He was one of the most intelligent and influential politician in his time.

[Individual Thought Patterns]

Martin Schulz, Robert J. Shiller, George Akerlof, Paul Krugman.

[Gim]

Isn't he the one who guillotined his wives?

He was never married.

Only with the Swedish Army.

Ah, okay. I think I was thinking of Henry Tudor.

[Gaozu]

He was never married.

Only with the Swedish Army.

Ah, okay. I think I was thinking of Henry Tudor.

I think he just used an axe tbh.

[Gim]

Ah, okay. I think I was thinking of Henry Tudor.

I think he just used an axe tbh.

Oh, I thought it as guillotine for some reason.

[Ban Pho]

I think he just used an axe tbh.

Oh, I thought it as guillotine for some reason.

I see why. Guillotines are badass.

[Nea Videssos]

I think he just used an axe tbh.

Oh, I thought it as guillotine for some reason.

Guillotines were invented in the late 1700s, not the late 1400s/early 1500s. Also Charles XII was Swedish, whilst Henry Tudor was English, though of Welsh ancestry (Tudor/Tudur being an old Welsh noble family, reputedly going back all the way to a 6th century king Cadrawd Calchfynydd, of the nothern Brythonic kingdom of Calchfynydd).

Bit of a difference there.

[The of Japan]

Someone explain what Nixon actually did.

Botched attempt to bug Democrats in DC. Resigned to avoid impeachment.

[Gim]

Oh, I thought it as guillotine for some reason.

Guillotines were invented in the late 1700s, not the late 1400s/early 1500s. Also Charles XII was Swedish, whilst Henry Tudor was English, though of Welsh ancestry (Tudor/Tudur being an old Welsh noble family, reputedly going back all the way to a 6th century king Cadrawd Calchfynydd, of the nothern Brythonic kingdom of Calchfynydd).

Bit of a difference there.

Yeah, I can understand.

[Silveles]

David Ben-Gurion, for his instrumental role as Israel's "founding father" and role as someone who successfully defended Israel.

Konrad Adenauer, for leading Germany out of Post-War despair and into an era of optimism and christian humanism.

I will think of more later.

As for modern leaders: Macri, Merkel.

[Crylante]

Clement Attlee.

Also, in terms of modern politicians, I like Jeremy Corbyn and Caroline Lucas.

[Sheudfranch]

Martin Van Buren. Because sideburns

[Major-Tom]

Clement Attlee.

Also, in terms of modern politicians, I like Jeremy Corbyn and Caroline Lucas.

Unfortunately for both, they have little to no crossover appeal, rendering them unelectable. Is this a good thing? Probably, we need pragmatic solutions, not wishy washy left wing populism.

[Crylante]

Also, in terms of modern politicians, I like Jeremy Corbyn and Caroline Lucas.

Unfortunately for both, they have little to no crossover appeal, rendering them unelectable. Is this a good thing? Probably, we need pragmatic solutions, not wishy washy left wing populism.

However, we do not need a moderate politician at this time who offers no real solutions to Britain's problems. The gap between the British middle-class and the working-class is becoming so apparent and I think Brexit's demonstrated how divided we really are as a nation. We need a leader with principle who can fix the growing gap between the working-class and the middle-class, instead of someone who just attacks the symptoms of a much greater problem within a broken system.

I personally live in a middle-class area of Britain, and I can see from my personal experience how out of touch most people I know are from the working class of the nation. A government driven by moderation will likely do nothing to address this split, and it will still remain.

Corbyn and Lucas are also often brutally honest about the problems that face Britain and their solutions, something I don't think we see often in British politics right now.

[Astaliah]

Martin McGuinness, R.I.P.