Church seeks to establish it's own police force.

[The Rich Port]

... No. Police officers are paid with tax payer money.

SECURITY GUARDS are the ones paid private wages, and they are subject to external regulation, not internal regulation.

I'm not talking about state or municipal police departments.

At my university, the campus police are state cops simply assigned to the university precinct.

So... What's the difference, exactly, that you wish to establish here?

[Jamzmania]

I'm not talking about state or municipal police departments.

At my university, the campus police are state cops simply assigned to the university precinct.

So... What's the difference, exactly, that you wish to establish here?

Some private organizations have police departments. I want to know if those departments which are run by private organizations are funded by the same.

[Falangian Europe]

"The Pope? How many divisions does he got?!"
-Joseph Stalin
But in a sense, as long as it's private security and not full blown law enforcement, I see nothing wrong with it.

[The Rich Port]

At my university, the campus police are state cops simply assigned to the university precinct.

So... What's the difference, exactly, that you wish to establish here?

Some private organizations have police departments. I want to know if those departments which are run by private organizations are funded by the same.

Depends on the organization.

Some of them are police enshrined with the full power of the state, others are more limited but remain tax payer funded, and others are straight up private goons that are not tax payer funded, directly at least.

Usually depends on how large the organization in question. For example, my university has over 49,000 students attending and over 10,000 students living on the campus. The Briarwood Church only has 4,100 attendees.

I have argued that the Church has no basis to argue necessity or the public good when universities and other campuses have much larger and specific needs that wouldn't otherwise be fulfilled by private security.

[Jamzmania]

Some private organizations have police departments. I want to know if those departments which are run by private organizations are funded by the same.

Depends on the organization.

Some of them are police enshrined with the full power of the state, others are more limited but remain tax payer funded, and others are straight up private goons that are not tax payer funded, directly at least.

Usually depends on how large the organization in question. For example, my university has over 49,000 students attending and over 10,000 students living on the campus. The Briarwood Church only has 4,100 attendees.

I have argued that the Church has no basis to argue necessity or the public good when universities and other campuses have much larger and specific needs that wouldn't otherwise be fulfilled by private security.

That's still a pretty good size. I'm sure they have their reasoning for wanting police instead of simple security.

[Saiwania]

This could be a really cool idea depending on how it is implemented. What happens in church, stays in church. Muahahaha!

[The Alma Mater]

Depends on the organization.

Some of them are police enshrined with the full power of the state, others are more limited but remain tax payer funded, and others are straight up private goons that are not tax payer funded, directly at least.

Usually depends on how large the organization in question. For example, my university has over 49,000 students attending and over 10,000 students living on the campus. The Briarwood Church only has 4,100 attendees.

I have argued that the Church has no basis to argue necessity or the public good when universities and other campuses have much larger and specific needs that wouldn't otherwise be fulfilled by private security.

That's still a pretty good size. I'm sure they have their reasoning for wanting police instead of simple security.

Perhaps. Does anyone actually know WHY they want "Churchcops" ?

[Ethel mermania]

That's still a pretty good size. I'm sure they have their reasoning for wanting police instead of simple security.

Perhaps. Does anyone actually know WHY they want "Churchcops" ?

Yes, yes we do.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.al.com/v ... urch_2.amp

[Neutraligon]

Perhaps. Does anyone actually know WHY they want "Churchcops" ?

Yes, yes we do.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.al.com/v ... urch_2.amp

It says they do not want to rely on off duty cops. Seems to me they can hire security for that.

[Cymrea]

Perhaps. Does anyone actually know WHY they want "Churchcops" ?

Yes, yes we do.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.al.com/v ... urch_2.amp

"The church currently hires off-duty officers from area police departments, but there aren't always enough officers available, Johnston said. "They get short-handed," he said. "We have one guy that we have to have almost full-time supervising security," he said."

The church wants to create a police force of one, to man a position that the local police can't fill because they're short-handed. Could the church not just set up a fund for the police force to hire another officer?

[The Alma Mater]

Perhaps. Does anyone actually know WHY they want "Churchcops" ?

Yes, yes we do.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.al.com/v ... urch_2.amp

That does not contain an explanation of why they want this specific construct.

[Jamzmania]

Yes, yes we do.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.al.com/v ... urch_2.amp

"The church currently hires off-duty officers from area police departments, but there aren't always enough officers available, Johnston said. "They get short-handed," he said. "We have one guy that we have to have almost full-time supervising security," he said."

The church wants to create a police force of one, to man a position that the local police can't fill because they're short-handed. Could the church not just set up a fund for the police force to hire another officer?

Could you imagine the scandal involved in that? "Local police PAID OFF by church!"

[Jamzmania]

Yes, yes we do.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.al.com/v ... urch_2.amp

That does not contain an explanation of why they want this specific construct.

It does. They want to hire one full time police officer so that they won't have to worry about local off-duty officers being unavailable.

[Ethel mermania]

Yes, yes we do.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.al.com/v ... urch_2.amp

"The church currently hires off-duty officers from area police departments, but there aren't always enough officers available, Johnston said. "They get short-handed," he said. "We have one guy that we have to have almost full-time supervising security," he said."

The church wants to create a police force of one, to man a position that the local police can't fill because they're short-handed. Could the church not just set up a fund for the police force to hire another officer?

That is not what the article says. There is no mention of a one man police force.

[Jamzmania]

"The church currently hires off-duty officers from area police departments, but there aren't always enough officers available, Johnston said. "They get short-handed," he said. "We have one guy that we have to have almost full-time supervising security," he said."

The church wants to create a police force of one, to man a position that the local police can't fill because they're short-handed. Could the church not just set up a fund for the police force to hire another officer?

That is not what the article says. There is no mention of a one man police force.

Here:

It would not involve a jail or other facilities - basically an officer and an official car, he said. "I couldn't imagine it would be something more than that," Johnston said.

[Hurdergaryp]

"The church currently hires off-duty officers from area police departments, but there aren't always enough officers available, Johnston said. "They get short-handed," he said. "We have one guy that we have to have almost full-time supervising security," he said."

The church wants to create a police force of one, to man a position that the local police can't fill because they're short-handed. Could the church not just set up a fund for the police force to hire another officer?

That is not what the article says. There is no mention of a one man police force.

But drugs were mentioned in said article... things suddenly got more interesting!

[The Alma Mater]

That does not contain an explanation of why they want this specific construct.

It does. They want to hire one full time police officer so that they won't have to worry about local off-duty officers being unavailable.

Which does not explain why they cannot just hire security. Which is both cheaper and less controversial.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

CanIhazabattleshipplx?

[Hurdergaryp]

It does. They want to hire one full time police officer so that they won't have to worry about local off-duty officers being unavailable.

Which does not explain why they cannot just hire security. Which is both cheaper and less controversial.

But is regular security also capable of ignoring meth labs when necessary?

[Jamzmania]

It does. They want to hire one full time police officer so that they won't have to worry about local off-duty officers being unavailable.

Which does not explain why they cannot just hire security. Which is both cheaper and less controversial.

If they wanted regular security, they would have hired it instead of off-duty peace officers.

[Neutraligon]

Which does not explain why they cannot just hire security. Which is both cheaper and less controversial.

If they wanted regular security, they would have hired it instead of off-duty peace officers.

So why do they want an off duty police officer rather than security?

[Jamzmania]

If they wanted regular security, they would have hired it instead of off-duty peace officers.

So why do they want an off duty police officer rather than security?

I don't know. My local big church hires off duty officers, too.

[Cymrea]

"The church currently hires off-duty officers from area police departments, but there aren't always enough officers available, Johnston said. "They get short-handed," he said. "We have one guy that we have to have almost full-time supervising security," he said."

The church wants to create a police force of one, to man a position that the local police can't fill because they're short-handed. Could the church not just set up a fund for the police force to hire another officer?

Could you imagine the scandal involved in that? "Local police PAID OFF by church!"

Private organisations have helped fund certain missions in police departments all over the U.S. for quite some time.

[Cymrea]

"The church currently hires off-duty officers from area police departments, but there aren't always enough officers available, Johnston said. "They get short-handed," he said. "We have one guy that we have to have almost full-time supervising security," he said."

The church wants to create a police force of one, to man a position that the local police can't fill because they're short-handed. Could the church not just set up a fund for the police force to hire another officer?

That is not what the article says. There is no mention of a one man police force.

"It would not involve a jail or other facilities - basically an officer and an official car, he said."

I took the singular nouns to mean hiring one guy.

[Gauthier]

Plus the cool slurs like Jesustapo.