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Postby Neanderthaland » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:19 am

You know, I'd really prefer the Salvation Army to not actually be an army.
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Postby Seraven » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:45 am

Sounds like they trying to be good in a hard way. I think.

I don't know.

Ifreann wrote:And they will be called the Swiss Guard. They will wear silly clothes and carry halberds.


And guarding President Trump, as the highest religious figure of sort in USA?

The Liberated Territories wrote:So long as the police force doesn't extend outside the Church's influence, I don't see a problem. Many private organizations have their own security, like malls.


It can be abused, just like government's.

Malls have their own security is a realistic reason, they are commercial! If someone harm their customers or their goods, they cannot ask police for help all the time. Hence the need to establish their own security.
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Postby Uxupox » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:13 am

Seraven wrote:Sounds like they trying to be good in a hard way. I think.

I don't know.

Ifreann wrote:And they will be called the Swiss Guard. They will wear silly clothes and carry halberds.


And guarding President Trump, as the highest religious figure of sort in USA?

The Liberated Territories wrote:So long as the police force doesn't extend outside the Church's influence, I don't see a problem. Many private organizations have their own security, like malls.


It can be abused, just like government's.

Malls have their own security is a realistic reason, they are commercial! If someone harm their customers or their goods, they cannot ask police for help all the time. Hence the need to establish their own security.


the president isn't a religious figure.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:16 am

Uxupox wrote:
Seraven wrote:Sounds like they trying to be good in a hard way. I think.

I don't know.



And guarding President Trump, as the highest religious figure of sort in USA?



It can be abused, just like government's.

Malls have their own security is a realistic reason, they are commercial! If someone harm their customers or their goods, they cannot ask police for help all the time. Hence the need to establish their own security.


the president isn't a religious figure.


Ask the alt-right.
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Postby Uxupox » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:17 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
the president isn't a religious figure.


Ask the alt-right.


They made a new religion or what?
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:59 am

Neanderthaland wrote:You know, I'd really prefer the Salvation Army to not actually be an army.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:00 am

Uxupox wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Ask the alt-right.


They made a new religion or what?

You know, God-Emperor Trump?
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:24 am

Gauthier wrote:
Uxupox wrote:They made a new religion or what?

You know, God-Emperor Trump?

Trump will be God-Emperor for as long as it takes for some guy with 14/88 and a swastika tattooed on his forehead to loudly proclaim that he is going to run for president.


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Postby Gauthier » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:41 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Gauthier wrote:You know, God-Emperor Trump?

Trump will be God-Emperor for as long as it takes for some guy with 14/88 and a swastika tattooed on his forehead to loudly proclaim that he is going to run for president.

Charles Manson is going to run for President?
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Postby San Marlindo » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:51 am

Doesn't the Vatican have its own police force?
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Postby Calladan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:28 am

San Marlindo wrote:Doesn't the Vatican have its own police force?


The Vatican is its own state - its own country (more or less). The church down the end of the road does not get to claim the same thing - and it certainly does not get to have its own laws and internal judicial system.

So as long as the "church police" are just security guards, and are answerable to the laws of the land (and no other laws - such as blasphemy or "not suffering a witch to live" and so forth) and the judicial and legal system of the land then all is well.
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Postby Uxupox » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:14 am

Gauthier wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
They made a new religion or what?

You know, God-Emperor Trump?


Do you know what's a joke?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:20 am

San Marlindo wrote:Doesn't the Vatican have its own police force?

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Postby Purple Empire » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:23 am

San Marlindo wrote:Doesn't the Vatican have its own police force?


Vatican City isn't part of Italy but a seperate state.
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Postby Uxupox » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:27 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Marlindo wrote:Doesn't the Vatican have its own police force?

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They act as security guards not as police officers.
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Postby Dylar » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:31 am

So, is it just the Presbyterian Church that wants it's own police force? I mean I looked at the article, but then I see people talking about the Swiss Guard on the last page... I don't know anymore...
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:31 am

Uxupox wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
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They act as security guards not as police officers.

The Swiss Guard? I would have said they're soldiers more than anything.
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Postby Cymrea » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:34 am

Uxupox wrote:
Ifreann wrote:


They act as security guards not as police officers.

"The Pontifical Swiss Guard (German: Päpstliche Schweizergarde; French: Garde suisse pontificale; Italian: Guardia Svizzera Pontificia; Latin: Pontificia Cohors Helvetica or Cohors Pedestris Helvetiorum a Sacra Custodia Pontificis) is an exception to the Swiss rulings of 1874 and 1927. A small force maintained by the Holy See, it is responsible for the safety of the Pope, including the security of the Apostolic Palace. The Swiss Guard serves as the de facto military of Vatican City."
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Postby Uxupox » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:36 am

Cymrea wrote:
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They act as security guards not as police officers.

"The Pontifical Swiss Guard (German: Päpstliche Schweizergarde; French: Garde suisse pontificale; Italian: Guardia Svizzera Pontificia; Latin: Pontificia Cohors Helvetica or Cohors Pedestris Helvetiorum a Sacra Custodia Pontificis) is an exception to the Swiss rulings of 1874 and 1927. A small force maintained by the Holy See, it is responsible for the safety of the Pope, including the security of the Apostolic Palace. The Swiss Guard serves as the de facto military of Vatican City."


Personal guards to both the Pope and his affiliates within the Vatican city itself.

Because a modern military unit is not gonna charge into a line with goddamn halberds.
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Postby Uxupox » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:37 am

Ifreann wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
They act as security guards not as police officers.

The Swiss Guard? I would have said they're soldiers more than anything.


Honestly they are soldiers picked from the best that the Swiss military has to offer.
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Postby Cymrea » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:39 am

Uxupox wrote:
Cymrea wrote:"The Pontifical Swiss Guard (German: Päpstliche Schweizergarde; French: Garde suisse pontificale; Italian: Guardia Svizzera Pontificia; Latin: Pontificia Cohors Helvetica or Cohors Pedestris Helvetiorum a Sacra Custodia Pontificis) is an exception to the Swiss rulings of 1874 and 1927. A small force maintained by the Holy See, it is responsible for the safety of the Pope, including the security of the Apostolic Palace. The Swiss Guard serves as the de facto military of Vatican City."


Personal guards to both the Pope and his affiliates within the Vatican city itself.

Because a modern military unit is not gonna charge into a line with goddamn halberds.

The halberds, while quite deadly regardless of their anachronism, are ceremonial. They also have some very sophisticated modern weaponry and tech at their disposal.
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Postby Dylar » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:40 am

Cymrea wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
They act as security guards not as police officers.

"The Pontifical Swiss Guard (German: Päpstliche Schweizergarde; French: Garde suisse pontificale; Italian: Guardia Svizzera Pontificia; Latin: Pontificia Cohors Helvetica or Cohors Pedestris Helvetiorum a Sacra Custodia Pontificis) is an exception to the Swiss rulings of 1874 and 1927. A small force maintained by the Holy See, it is responsible for the safety of the Pope, including the security of the Apostolic Palace. The Swiss Guard serves as the de facto military of Vatican City."

It sounds more Secret Service than military. Unless the Secret Service is military. After all the Secret Service's job is to defend the President and the White House.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:40 am

Uxupox wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The Swiss Guard? I would have said they're soldiers more than anything.


Honestly they are soldiers picked from the best that the Swiss military has to offer.

Well, the best of the Catholics.
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Postby Uxupox » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:41 am

Cymrea wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Personal guards to both the Pope and his affiliates within the Vatican city itself.

Because a modern military unit is not gonna charge into a line with goddamn halberds.

The halberds, while quite deadly regardless of their anachronism, are ceremonial. They also have some very sophisticated modern weaponry and tech at their disposal.


Yea if your enemy is unarmed because if not then most likely you dead.
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Postby Uxupox » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:41 am

Ifreann wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Honestly they are soldiers picked from the best that the Swiss military has to offer.

Well, the best of the Catholics.


well yea.

adding to that it's very sad that they don't take soldiers from different countries.
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