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Postby Sungai Pusat » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:06 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:Pretty much, yeah...

I think that's also why the unemployment numbers are so terrible? Between both architects and actors, really; either side, being in the arts as you said, works project by project, which I guess also makes construction projects unstable but the larger difference is that construction can happen all the fucking time (Or I guess at least in Singapore, it is), whereas it's not all the time that people need to watch a play or a movie; hell, if nothing else, a lot of people are playing computer games or watching stuff on the Internet instead.

Hell, I'm one of those people who tends to watch videos online and sat through listening in on a video for two hours as opposed to tending to get myself to a theatre to watch a movie. (The video was of a standup comic, to be fair, but yeah...)

Yep yep. But I'm not really worried. Theater has been dying since it was first established. People still go anyway, if only to see the difference a live show makes.

I guess so, yeah...

Had a sort of thought about how entertainment might be like in the future and the possibility that there would be a device that basically maps your brain and makes entertainment that it believes would suit you and all the like.

Thought of it as like this plot device to a mildly dystopian movie, too; like, it's not really a hell or anything like that, but it's more just this shut in of a society, so... closest analogue I have in my head (Haven't watched it yet, though) is Her.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:08 pm

Sungai Pusat wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Yep yep. But I'm not really worried. Theater has been dying since it was first established. People still go anyway, if only to see the difference a live show makes.

I guess so, yeah...

Had a sort of thought about how entertainment might be like in the future and the possibility that there would be a device that basically maps your brain and makes entertainment that it believes would suit you and all the like.

Thought of it as like this plot device to a mildly dystopian movie, too; like, it's not really a hell or anything like that, but it's more just this shut in of a society, so... closest analogue I have in my head (Haven't watched it yet, though) is Her.

Doesn't Facebook already do this? Don't they figure out what to emphasize on your feed based on your likes, what you view, what you write about, etc?

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Postby Sungai Pusat » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:15 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:I guess so, yeah...

Had a sort of thought about how entertainment might be like in the future and the possibility that there would be a device that basically maps your brain and makes entertainment that it believes would suit you and all the like.

Thought of it as like this plot device to a mildly dystopian movie, too; like, it's not really a hell or anything like that, but it's more just this shut in of a society, so... closest analogue I have in my head (Haven't watched it yet, though) is Her.

Doesn't Facebook already do this? Don't they figure out what to emphasize on your feed based on your likes, what you view, what you write about, etc?

Kind of, yeah.

...huh.

I mean, I guess it's not geared to entertainment. And it's indirect.

But yeah, it's kind of like that..
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Postby Khalisako » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:18 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:I guess so, yeah...

Had a sort of thought about how entertainment might be like in the future and the possibility that there would be a device that basically maps your brain and makes entertainment that it believes would suit you and all the like.

Thought of it as like this plot device to a mildly dystopian movie, too; like, it's not really a hell or anything like that, but it's more just this shut in of a society, so... closest analogue I have in my head (Haven't watched it yet, though) is Her.

Doesn't Facebook already do this? Don't they figure out what to emphasize on your feed based on your likes, what you view, what you write about, etc?

It kinda does. Facebook could definitely be compared to an alien brain fungus.
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:52 pm

I feel like somewhat a bad person (Somewhat, I guess, if only because a part of my internal policy does seem to be "Don't have too much detailed involvement in politics unless domestic") for not keeping too up to date with the geopolitics in Asia outside of the general points: Like, I know that Duterte's president of the Philippines and that he has a hard-on against drug dealers/smugglers/apparently anyone who looks suspicious, but I don't have much of a handle on much of anything else nor, it seems, do I really want to.
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Postby Khalisako » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:58 pm

Sungai Pusat wrote:I feel like somewhat a bad person (Somewhat, I guess, if only because a part of my internal policy does seem to be "Don't have too much detailed involvement in politics unless domestic") for not keeping too up to date with the geopolitics in Asia outside of the general points: Like, I know that Duterte's president of the Philippines and that he has a hard-on against drug dealers/smugglers/apparently anyone who looks suspicious, but I don't have much of a handle on much of anything else nor, it seems, do I really want to.

Eh, that's not as bad as you think. Could be worse. You could be someone like my father.

Start off by diriding and ignoring those who fight on his behalf and to his benefit. Than not vote or be involved in the slightest when our government gives him the chance. Doesn't give a shit about domestic or foriegn politics, even if it directly affects him. He pretend's he's white and regards his heritage and language as trashy and inferior. He thinks we're a culture of beggar losers that constnatly want freebees and practice blatant corruption in our tribal government, a lot of whores, yet he still expects to be given his assisted housing for elders and his retirement fund, thus, playing into his own stereotype.
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:20 am

Khalisako wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:I feel like somewhat a bad person (Somewhat, I guess, if only because a part of my internal policy does seem to be "Don't have too much detailed involvement in politics unless domestic") for not keeping too up to date with the geopolitics in Asia outside of the general points: Like, I know that Duterte's president of the Philippines and that he has a hard-on against drug dealers/smugglers/apparently anyone who looks suspicious, but I don't have much of a handle on much of anything else nor, it seems, do I really want to.

Eh, that's not as bad as you think. Could be worse. You could be someone like my father.

Start off by diriding and ignoring those who fight on his behalf and to his benefit. Than not vote or be involved in the slightest when our government gives him the chance. Doesn't give a shit about domestic or foriegn politics, even if it directly affects him. He pretend's he's white and regards his heritage and language as trashy and inferior. He thinks we're a culture of beggar losers that constnatly want freebees and practice blatant corruption in our tribal government, a lot of whores, yet he still expects to be given his assisted housing for elders and his retirement fund, thus, playing into his own stereotype.

Yay... :T

I guess so, yeah. I hope that what I'm striving towards is at least a level of empathy, if nothing else, towards all of these types of issues, and understanding them as being the complicated messes that they are with sometimes seemingly easy, but not really, answers, though considering what I said just now, it's kind of undermined a little in my mind.

But yeah, brief solace that I'm starting out at a better place than him, I guess.
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Postby Khalisako » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:39 am

Sungai Pusat wrote:Yay... :T

I guess so, yeah. I hope that what I'm striving towards is at least a level of empathy, if nothing else, towards all of these types of issues, and understanding them as being the complicated messes that they are with sometimes seemingly easy, but not really, answers, though considering what I said just now, it's kind of undermined a little in my mind.

But yeah, brief solace that I'm starting out at a better place than him, I guess.

Life is but a series of undermined things. Perhaps somebody should invent a machine that distributes brief solace.
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:06 am

Khalisako wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:Yay... :T

I guess so, yeah. I hope that what I'm striving towards is at least a level of empathy, if nothing else, towards all of these types of issues, and understanding them as being the complicated messes that they are with sometimes seemingly easy, but not really, answers, though considering what I said just now, it's kind of undermined a little in my mind.

But yeah, brief solace that I'm starting out at a better place than him, I guess.

Life is but a series of undermined things. Perhaps somebody should invent a machine that distributes brief solace.

Perhaps so, though that might result in the poor selling their moments of brief solace for a tiny extra income. :P
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Postby Frank Zipper » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:45 am

Sungai Pusat wrote:Had a sort of thought about how entertainment might be like in the future and the possibility that there would be a device that basically maps your brain and makes entertainment that it believes would suit you and all the like.

Thought of it as like this plot device to a mildly dystopian movie, too; like, it's not really a hell or anything like that, but it's more just this shut in of a society, so... closest analogue I have in my head (Haven't watched it yet, though) is Her.


I imagine that is more or less Amazon's aim with the AI behind their recommendations. Though they seem unable to resist the temptation to take money to recommend things like Marvel films and Family Guy no matter how many times I tell them I don't like them.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:15 am

So I wanted to get some more gym time in today.

But the weather seems to have decided "fuck you". Right now it's rain and 30mph winds.
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:32 am

Frank Zipper wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:Had a sort of thought about how entertainment might be like in the future and the possibility that there would be a device that basically maps your brain and makes entertainment that it believes would suit you and all the like.

Thought of it as like this plot device to a mildly dystopian movie, too; like, it's not really a hell or anything like that, but it's more just this shut in of a society, so... closest analogue I have in my head (Haven't watched it yet, though) is Her.


I imagine that is more or less Amazon's aim with the AI behind their recommendations. Though they seem unable to resist the temptation to take money to recommend things like Marvel films and Family Guy no matter how many times I tell them I don't like them.

Yeah, that's true; the attempts at giving you stuff you might like because money is always there and this is basically a step towards it.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:01 am

Vassenor wrote:So I wanted to get some more gym time in today.

But the weather seems to have decided "fuck you". Right now it's rain and 30mph winds.

Pretty much the same type of weather over here as well. Not a good day for frolicking in the fields.


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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:16 am

Vassenor wrote:So I wanted to get some more gym time in today.

But the weather seems to have decided "fuck you". Right now it's rain and 30mph winds.


Do some sit ups, push ups or something like that indoors. I can't do push ups with my weedy tyrannosaurus arms, but apparently most can.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:18 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So I wanted to get some more gym time in today.

But the weather seems to have decided "fuck you". Right now it's rain and 30mph winds.


Do some sit ups, push ups or something like that indoors. I can't do push ups with my weedy tyrannosaurus arms, but apparently most can.


I'm on doctor's not to do resistance right now.

Besides I made it to the gym anyway.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:29 am

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Khalisako wrote:Welp, that explains the pimples then. :V

Heh, I see.

I suppose that's a good thing then. Think the onyl play I've seen in my life was les miserables, not too long ago. Kinda odd you guys don't get paid much tho.

Investments in the arts, as much as we consume it, don't yield much returns, sad to say.


Tell that to George lucas.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:30 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So I wanted to get some more gym time in today.

But the weather seems to have decided "fuck you". Right now it's rain and 30mph winds.

Pretty much the same type of weather over here as well. Not a good day for frolicking in the fields.

Might get up to 20 today, in your language.
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:40 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:Investments in the arts, as much as we consume it, don't yield much returns, sad to say.


Tell that to George lucas.

Well, George Lucas is not a good representation as the aggregate of people involved in the arts, is he? :P
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:50 am

Sungai Pusat wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Tell that to George lucas.

Well, George Lucas is not a good representation as the aggregate of people involved in the arts, is he? :P

Actually he is. But fine

Tell it to james nederlander
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:15 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:Well, George Lucas is not a good representation as the aggregate of people involved in the arts, is he? :P

Actually he is. But fine

Tell it to james nederlander

*looks him up*

I meant aggregate as in the income and level of fame. d:
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:20 am

Vassenor wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Do some sit ups, push ups or something like that indoors. I can't do push ups with my weedy tyrannosaurus arms, but apparently most can.

I'm on doctor's not to do resistance right now.

Besides I made it to the gym anyway.

So any sabotage actions directed against the oppressive authorities will have to wait until your doctor says it's ok to do so.


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Postby Vassenor » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:24 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Vassenor wrote:I'm on doctor's not to do resistance right now.

Besides I made it to the gym anyway.

So any sabotage actions directed against the oppressive authorities will have to wait until your doctor says it's ok to do so.


Not like that.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:25 am

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Hurdergaryp wrote:So any sabotage actions directed against the oppressive authorities will have to wait until your doctor says it's ok to do so.


Not like that.


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Postby Val Halla » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:31 am

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:31 am

Vassenor wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:So any sabotage actions directed against the oppressive authorities will have to wait until your doctor says it's ok to do so.

Not like that.

Laying in wait in order to ambush paramilitary patrols is a great way to burn many calories.

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Vassenor wrote:Not like that.

"The system" breathes a sigh of relief.

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