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New Visayan Islands
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:07 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Trumpisslavia wrote:
But who'll foot the bill for researching them, then stowing them six feet under?

(I will outpun you all, yo.)

So you're putting your foot down, huh?

As if we're on even footing to begin with.
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Pasong Tirad
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:11 pm

New Visayan Islands wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:So you're putting your foot down, huh?

As if we're on even footing to begin with.

You probably have two left feet.

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Postby Tsaraine » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:36 pm

So I finished A Blinking Light Up On The Clouded Mountain, a long and quite good fanfic putting Welcome to Night Vale into the world of His Dark Materials, from the perspective of Carlos the Experimental Theologian. It worked fairly well, though I think having a scientist as the POV character unravelled some of the mystery behind Night Vale. HDM is a universe fundamentally amenable to human reason and humanism, while Night Vale is fundamentally not.

Anyway now I'm out of fanfic to read. There's always more fanfic, of course, but it's hard to find curated fanfic, ie the good stuff. When you're talking about an art form with a very low barrier to entry, there's going to be a lot of haystack and not many needles.

Does anyone have any good recommendations?

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Postby Chrinthanium » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:38 pm

Tsaraine wrote:So I finished A Blinking Light Up On The Clouded Mountain, a long and quite good fanfic putting Welcome to Night Vale into the world of His Dark Materials, from the perspective of Carlos the Experimental Theologian. It worked fairly well, though I think having a scientist as the POV character unravelled some of the mystery behind Night Vale. HDM is a universe fundamentally amenable to human reason and humanism, while Night Vale is fundamentally not.

Anyway now I'm out of fanfic to read. There's always more fanfic, of course, but it's hard to find curated fanfic, ie the good stuff. When you're talking about an art form with a very low barrier to entry, there's going to be a lot of haystack and not many needles.

Does anyone have any good recommendations?

Tsar, I wish I could assist you. I don't read fanfic. However, I am reading all of Bret Easton Ellis' novels right now. Lots of sex, drugs, and 80s in those books :P
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Postby Tsaraine » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:41 pm

Chrinthanium wrote:
Tsaraine wrote:So I finished A Blinking Light Up On The Clouded Mountain, a long and quite good fanfic putting Welcome to Night Vale into the world of His Dark Materials, from the perspective of Carlos the Experimental Theologian. It worked fairly well, though I think having a scientist as the POV character unravelled some of the mystery behind Night Vale. HDM is a universe fundamentally amenable to human reason and humanism, while Night Vale is fundamentally not.

Anyway now I'm out of fanfic to read. There's always more fanfic, of course, but it's hard to find curated fanfic, ie the good stuff. When you're talking about an art form with a very low barrier to entry, there's going to be a lot of haystack and not many needles.

Does anyone have any good recommendations?

Tsar, I wish I could assist you. I don't read fanfic. However, I am reading all of Bret Easton Ellis' novels right now. Lots of sex, drugs, and 80s in those books :P

I only spent a few years in the 1980s. I didn't much care for it, and most of it I've forgotten. 80s nostalgia is lost on me.

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Postby New haven america » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:43 pm

Tsaraine wrote:So I finished A Blinking Light Up On The Clouded Mountain, a long and quite good fanfic putting Welcome to Night Vale into the world of His Dark Materials, from the perspective of Carlos the Experimental Theologian. It worked fairly well, though I think having a scientist as the POV character unravelled some of the mystery behind Night Vale. HDM is a universe fundamentally amenable to human reason and humanism, while Night Vale is fundamentally not.

Anyway now I'm out of fanfic to read. There's always more fanfic, of course, but it's hard to find curated fanfic, ie the good stuff. When you're talking about an art form with a very low barrier to entry, there's going to be a lot of haystack and not many needles.

Does anyone have any good recommendations?

Go find actual books or light novels...? :P
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Postby Hetalia Dakota 2 II » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:44 pm

Tsaraine wrote:So I finished A Blinking Light Up On The Clouded Mountain, a long and quite good fanfic putting Welcome to Night Vale into the world of His Dark Materials, from the perspective of Carlos the Experimental Theologian. It worked fairly well, though I think having a scientist as the POV character unravelled some of the mystery behind Night Vale. HDM is a universe fundamentally amenable to human reason and humanism, while Night Vale is fundamentally not.

Anyway now I'm out of fanfic to read. There's always more fanfic, of course, but it's hard to find curated fanfic, ie the good stuff. When you're talking about an art form with a very low barrier to entry, there's going to be a lot of haystack and not many needles.

Does anyone have any good recommendations?

want some pony fics? :P
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:59 pm

Tsaraine wrote:So I finished A Blinking Light Up On The Clouded Mountain, a long and quite good fanfic putting Welcome to Night Vale into the world of His Dark Materials, from the perspective of Carlos the Experimental Theologian. It worked fairly well, though I think having a scientist as the POV character unravelled some of the mystery behind Night Vale. HDM is a universe fundamentally amenable to human reason and humanism, while Night Vale is fundamentally not.

Anyway now I'm out of fanfic to read. There's always more fanfic, of course, but it's hard to find curated fanfic, ie the good stuff. When you're talking about an art form with a very low barrier to entry, there's going to be a lot of haystack and not many needles.

Does anyone have any good recommendations?

Find the local library and borrow stuff? :P

I mean hell, your local libraries have got to be more progressive than mine, at any rate.
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Pasong Tirad
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:02 pm

New haven america wrote:
Tsaraine wrote:So I finished A Blinking Light Up On The Clouded Mountain, a long and quite good fanfic putting Welcome to Night Vale into the world of His Dark Materials, from the perspective of Carlos the Experimental Theologian. It worked fairly well, though I think having a scientist as the POV character unravelled some of the mystery behind Night Vale. HDM is a universe fundamentally amenable to human reason and humanism, while Night Vale is fundamentally not.

Anyway now I'm out of fanfic to read. There's always more fanfic, of course, but it's hard to find curated fanfic, ie the good stuff. When you're talking about an art form with a very low barrier to entry, there's going to be a lot of haystack and not many needles.

Does anyone have any good recommendations?

Go find actual books or light novels...? :P

Hey now, fanfic should be respected as good fiction. There's a science to how fanfic approaches the fiction it derives itself from.

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Postby Sungai Pusat » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:03 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
New haven america wrote:Go find actual books or light novels...? :P

Hey now, fanfic should be respected as good fiction. There's a science to how fanfic approaches the fiction it derives itself from.

A science that a lot of people, myself included, have failed to follow through.
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Pasong Tirad
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:05 pm

Sungai Pusat wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Hey now, fanfic should be respected as good fiction. There's a science to how fanfic approaches the fiction it derives itself from.

A science that a lot of people, myself included, have failed to follow through.

This article can help you out.

If tl;dr, let me grab a quote:

"The fundamental objective of fanfic, especially when it is written by women, queer and genderqueer people, and people of color, is to insert yourself, aggressively and brazenly, into stories that are not about and were never intended to be about or represent you."
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:09 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:A science that a lot of people, myself included, have failed to follow through.

This article can help you out.

If tl;dr, let me grab a quote:

"The fundamental objective of fanfic, especially when it is written by women, queer and genderqueer people, and people of color, is to insert yourself, aggressively and brazenly, into stories that are not about and were never intended to be about or represent you."

Whoot!

Of course, though, I did not really do that for the stuff I actually put online. Which I consider the decent stuff.

There was, however, the NaNoWriMo attempt that probably fits the bill and sadly, it's when I was an Objectivist-leaning-ish-actually-hating-Ayn-Rand's-literary-style-from-what-I'd-heard-libertarian-pushing-his-own-politics-into-
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Khalisako
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Postby Khalisako » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:22 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:A science that a lot of people, myself included, have failed to follow through.

This article can help you out.

If tl;dr, let me grab a quote:

"The fundamental objective of fanfic, especially when it is written by women, queer and genderqueer people, and people of color, is to insert yourself, aggressively and brazenly, into stories that are not about and were never intended to be about or represent you."

I preffer the one's written by lonely perverts. The ones that write their favorite character into sexual situations. Situations that reveal aspects of the fanfic writter's flawed psyche.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:25 pm

Khalisako wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:This article can help you out.

If tl;dr, let me grab a quote:

"The fundamental objective of fanfic, especially when it is written by women, queer and genderqueer people, and people of color, is to insert yourself, aggressively and brazenly, into stories that are not about and were never intended to be about or represent you."

I preffer the one's written by lonely perverts. The ones that write their favorite character into sexual situations. Situations that reveal aspects of the fanfic writter's flawed psyche.

Repressed sexual desires does not a flawed psyche make.

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Postby Sungai Pusat » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:25 pm

Khalisako wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:This article can help you out.

If tl;dr, let me grab a quote:

"The fundamental objective of fanfic, especially when it is written by women, queer and genderqueer people, and people of color, is to insert yourself, aggressively and brazenly, into stories that are not about and were never intended to be about or represent you."

I preffer the one's written by lonely perverts. The ones that write their favorite character into sexual situations. Situations that reveal aspects of the fanfic writter's flawed psyche.

To be fair, all of fanfiction could be argued as revealing some sentiment of one's psyche... as does all fiction in general, except with the additional point of how it relates to the original text.
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Khalisako
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Postby Khalisako » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:45 pm

Sungai Pusat wrote:
Khalisako wrote:I preffer the one's written by lonely perverts. The ones that write their favorite character into sexual situations. Situations that reveal aspects of the fanfic writter's flawed psyche.

To be fair, all of fanfiction could be argued as revealing some sentiment of one's psyche... as does all fiction in general, except with the additional point of how it relates to the original text.

You are correct.
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Postby Rebelhood » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:49 pm

What'd I miss?

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Postby Sungai Pusat » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:51 pm

Khalisako wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:To be fair, all of fanfiction could be argued as revealing some sentiment of one's psyche... as does all fiction in general, except with the additional point of how it relates to the original text.

You are correct.

What'd I win?! :D
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:53 pm

Sungai Pusat wrote:
Khalisako wrote:You are correct.

What'd I win?! :D

Enjoy your prize... Bunion Rings.
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Postby Khalisako » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:57 pm

Sungai Pusat wrote:
Khalisako wrote:You are correct.

What'd I win?! :D

All I have is $20... sorry.
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Hurdergaryp wrote:Oh, Khalisako... my dear, precious little Khalisako...
sometimes I just want to grab you by the throat and choke you for a while,
but that would not be proper behaviour. It just wouldn't do.

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Pasong Tirad
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:59 pm

Khalisako wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:What'd I win?! :D

All I have is $20... sorry.

I'll take that if you don't want it. $20 is like a thousand pesos.

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Postby Sungai Pusat » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:03 pm

My computer clearly does not want me to be using the Internet because it cut off just as I was trying to post stuff on NS and now it's gone.

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:What'd I win?! :D

Enjoy your prize... Bunion Rings.

WOOHOO

Khalisako wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:What'd I win?! :D

All I have is $20... sorry.

FUCK
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:04 pm

Sungai Pusat wrote:My computer clearly does not want me to be using the Internet because it cut off just as I was trying to post stuff on NS and now it's gone.

The Serbian Empire wrote:Enjoy your prize... Bunion Rings.

WOOHOO

Khalisako wrote:All I have is $20... sorry.

FUCK

Bunion rings... at least it's not engine gaskets.
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Postby Rebelhood » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:06 pm

Tired squig.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:07 pm

Rebelhood wrote:Tired squig.

Which squig is this? 1, 2, or 3?
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