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Postby Tsaraine » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:57 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Tsaraine wrote:Today I've been reading To The Stars, a Madoka Magica fanfic set four hundred years in the future during a war with aliens. It feels like the author read and re-read the works of John Scalzi while simultaneously watching and re-watching Madoka Magica. The main appeal is the surprisingly robust worldbuilding, though the author does have a tendency to infodump.

Before that I tried reading Fargo, also a fanfic based on Madoka Magica, in which excessively dysfunctional magical girls try to kill each other based on the interactions of their various horrible psychological problems. I stopped reading it because it was super dark.

I've never actually watched Madoka Magica, since I've heard it described as "magical girls plus crippling depression" and I have to say reading the fanfic certainly seems to reinforce that impression. Reading this is actually making me want to watch it less, since it seems like the show just went grimdark for the sake of grimdark, and grimdarkness for its own sake is tedious.

Though now I'm picturing magical girls + Warhammer 40,000 and it seems like that might work quite well, since WH40K is more of the heavy metal skulls'n'spikes sort than the emo "everything is miserable forever" kind.

Fascinating. The real question, however, is the following: are there mecha?

It seems not, though it's been implied that the ordinary infantry have powered armour.

If you want magical girls and mecha, Lagrange: The Flower of Rin-Ne is the anime for you.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:02 am

Tsaraine wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Fascinating. The real question, however, is the following: are there mecha?

It seems not, though it's been implied that the ordinary infantry have powered armour.

If you want magical girls and mecha, Lagrange: The Flower of Rin-Ne is the anime for you.

The only magical girls I currently follow the adventures of, are those featured in the webcomic Sleepless Domain. This comic takes an interesting spin on the whole magical girls concept. Pleasant art, too.


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Postby Philjia » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:04 am

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Tsaraine wrote:It seems not, though it's been implied that the ordinary infantry have powered armour.

If you want magical girls and mecha, Lagrange: The Flower of Rin-Ne is the anime for you.

The only magical girls I currently follow the adventures of, are those featured in the webcomic Sleepless Domain. This comic takes an interesting spin on the whole magical girls concept. Pleasant art, too.


I keep meaning to read that. I really enjoyed Let's Speak English, but I haven't found the time to read her other stuff.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:06 am

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Hurdergaryp wrote:The only magical girls I currently follow the adventures of, are those featured in the webcomic Sleepless Domain. This comic takes an interesting spin on the whole magical girls concept. Pleasant art, too.

I keep meaning to read that. I really enjoyed Let's Speak English, but I haven't found the time to read her other stuff.

You really should, Sleepless Domain and Kiwi Blitz are both worth it.


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Postby Tsaraine » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:13 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Tsaraine wrote:It seems not, though it's been implied that the ordinary infantry have powered armour.

If you want magical girls and mecha, Lagrange: The Flower of Rin-Ne is the anime for you.

The only magical girls I currently follow the adventures of, are those featured in the webcomic Sleepless Domain. This comic takes an interesting spin on the whole magical girls concept. Pleasant art, too.

Yeah, I enjoy Sleepless Domain. It pretty much hits all the right buttons; bright colours, cute girls, magic, all that. And yeah, the art is great.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:17 am

Tsaraine wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Fascinating. The real question, however, is the following: are there mecha?

It seems not, though it's been implied that the ordinary infantry have powered armour.

If you want magical girls and mecha, Lagrange: The Flower of Rin-Ne is the anime for you.


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Postby New haven america » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:20 am

Tsaraine wrote:Today I've been reading To The Stars, a Madoka Magica fanfic set four hundred years in the future during a war with aliens. It feels like the author read and re-read the works of John Scalzi while simultaneously watching and re-watching Madoka Magica. The main appeal is the surprisingly robust worldbuilding, though the author does have a tendency to infodump.

Before that I tried reading Fargo, also a fanfic based on Madoka Magica, in which excessively dysfunctional magical girls try to kill each other based on the interactions of their various horrible psychological problems. I stopped reading it because it was super dark.

I've never actually watched Madoka Magica, since I've heard it described as "magical girls plus crippling depression" and I have to say reading the fanfic certainly seems to reinforce that impression. Reading this is actually making me want to watch it less, since it seems like the show just went grimdark for the sake of grimdark, and grimdarkness for its own sake is tedious.

Though now I'm picturing magical girls + Warhammer 40,000 and it seems like that might work quite well, since WH40K is more of the heavy metal skulls'n'spikes sort than the emo "everything is miserable forever" kind.

Madoka Magica isn't grimdark, it's a Deconstruction that came out when magical girl shows were still cute, bubbly kid shows with very little actually going on story wise. (Excluding Nanoha)

Gen Urobuchi decided he didn't like those shows, and decided to make his own (Madoka Magica).
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:45 am

New haven america wrote:
Tsaraine wrote:Today I've been reading To The Stars, a Madoka Magica fanfic set four hundred years in the future during a war with aliens. It feels like the author read and re-read the works of John Scalzi while simultaneously watching and re-watching Madoka Magica. The main appeal is the surprisingly robust worldbuilding, though the author does have a tendency to infodump.

Before that I tried reading Fargo, also a fanfic based on Madoka Magica, in which excessively dysfunctional magical girls try to kill each other based on the interactions of their various horrible psychological problems. I stopped reading it because it was super dark.

I've never actually watched Madoka Magica, since I've heard it described as "magical girls plus crippling depression" and I have to say reading the fanfic certainly seems to reinforce that impression. Reading this is actually making me want to watch it less, since it seems like the show just went grimdark for the sake of grimdark, and grimdarkness for its own sake is tedious.

Though now I'm picturing magical girls + Warhammer 40,000 and it seems like that might work quite well, since WH40K is more of the heavy metal skulls'n'spikes sort than the emo "everything is miserable forever" kind.

Madoka Magica isn't grimdark, it's a Deconstruction that came out when magical girl shows were still cute, bubbly kid shows with very little actually going on story wise. (Excluding Nanoha)

Gen Urobuchi decided he didn't like those shows, and decided to make his own (Madoka Magica).

Well, it can be both, can't it?
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Postby Erinkita III » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:17 am

Sungai Pusat wrote:
New haven america wrote:Madoka Magica isn't grimdark, it's a Deconstruction that came out when magical girl shows were still cute, bubbly kid shows with very little actually going on story wise. (Excluding Nanoha)

Gen Urobuchi decided he didn't like those shows, and decided to make his own (Madoka Magica).

Well, it can be both, can't it?

It isn't really grimdark at all. Darkness exists in it, but it's there to be fought. Madoka Magica is ultimately optimistic and life-affirming.

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Postby Philjia » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:23 am

I see that in the Oscars the designated "genre revivalist film" lost to the designated "socially conscious none-genre film".

If you ask me, Hell or High Water was the best film on the shortlist.
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:43 am

Philjia wrote:I see that in the Oscars the designated "genre revivalist film" lost to the designated "socially conscious none-genre film".

If you ask me, Hell or High Water was the best film on the shortlist.

Well, I'd only watched the genre revivalist film that was on that shortlist thus far, so there's that.

Honestly think that Whiplash is better.

EDIT: I was a dumb dumb; I watched Manchester by the Sea recently, so yeah. Kind of interesting in style, but by the looks of it, forgettable either by my own fault or the movie's.
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:44 am

Erinkita III wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:Well, it can be both, can't it?

It isn't really grimdark at all. Darkness exists in it, but it's there to be fought. Madoka Magica is ultimately optimistic and life-affirming.

Emphasis on can, but gotcha.
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Postby Khalisako » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:01 am

Erinkita III wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:Well, it can be both, can't it?

It isn't really grimdark at all. Darkness exists in it, but it's there to be fought. Madoka Magica is ultimately optimistic and life-affirming.

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Postby Erinkita III » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:46 am

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Erinkita III wrote:It isn't really grimdark at all. Darkness exists in it, but it's there to be fought. Madoka Magica is ultimately optimistic and life-affirming.

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Postby Khalisako » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:56 am

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Khalisako wrote:

I'm sorry. I don't get it.

That's okay.

Is that an ant eater you have there?
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Postby Frank Zipper » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:58 am

Khalisako wrote:
Erinkita III wrote:I'm sorry. I don't get it.

That's okay.

Is that an ant eater you have there?


That's a pangolin. Being endangered by Chinese traditional so called medicine.
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Postby Khalisako » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:04 am

Frank Zipper wrote:
Khalisako wrote:That's okay.

Is that an ant eater you have there?


That's a pangolin. Being endangered by Chinese traditional so called medicine.

Well, that explains it then.
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Postby Erinkita III » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:19 am

Khalisako wrote:
Frank Zipper wrote:
That's a pangolin. Being endangered by Chinese traditional so called medicine.

Well, that explains it then.

I believe pangolins are the cutest of the weird animals.

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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:24 am

Well, back from Stockholm. Thankful too, it was a fun visit but non stop things going on. Good thing it's Monday so I can finally relax.
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Postby Trumpisslavia » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:28 am

Tsaraine wrote:I've never actually watched Madoka Magica, since I've heard it described as "magical girls plus crippling depression" and I have to say reading the fanfic certainly seems to reinforce that impression. Reading this is actually making me want to watch it less, since it seems like the show just went grimdark for the sake of grimdark, and grimdarkness for its own sake is tedious.


Nononononononono. As a fellow anime lover, I must say it goes grimdark, but there is a point to said grimdarkness. Do watch, please do.
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:33 am

The Holy Therns wrote:Well, back from Stockholm. Thankful too, it was a fun visit but non stop things going on. Good thing it's Monday so I can finally relax.

Monday and relaxation does not match, Therns. It just intrinsically doesn't. :P
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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:37 am

Sungai Pusat wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:Well, back from Stockholm. Thankful too, it was a fun visit but non stop things going on. Good thing it's Monday so I can finally relax.

Monday and relaxation does not match, Therns. It just intrinsically doesn't. :P


Yet here I am, relaxed because it's Monday.
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:39 am

The Holy Therns wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:Monday and relaxation does not match, Therns. It just intrinsically doesn't. :P


Yet here I am, relaxed because it's Monday.

Frick that. D:<

We can't both be exceptions to that rule!

Though I mean at the same time, the only reason why for me is because it's the school holidays...
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Postby Tsaraine » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:00 am

Erinkita III wrote:
Khalisako wrote:Well, that explains it then.

I believe pangolins are the cutest of the weird animals.

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Tsaraine wrote:I've never actually watched Madoka Magica, since I've heard it described as "magical girls plus crippling depression" and I have to say reading the fanfic certainly seems to reinforce that impression. Reading this is actually making me want to watch it less, since it seems like the show just went grimdark for the sake of grimdark, and grimdarkness for its own sake is tedious.


Nononononononono. As a fellow anime lover, I must say it goes grimdark, but there is a point to said grimdarkness. Do watch, please do.

I may or may not give it a go when my internet is no longer at slow potato speeds. Basically I avoid anime which makes me feel sad.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:11 am

Trumpisslavia wrote:
Tsaraine wrote:I've never actually watched Madoka Magica, since I've heard it described as "magical girls plus crippling depression" and I have to say reading the fanfic certainly seems to reinforce that impression. Reading this is actually making me want to watch it less, since it seems like the show just went grimdark for the sake of grimdark, and grimdarkness for its own sake is tedious.


Nononononononono. As a fellow anime lover, I must say it goes grimdark, but there is a point to said grimdarkness. Do watch, please do.


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