China Bans North Korean Coal

[Datlofff]

Like the Soviets woth Chernobyl and also few other nuclear accidents caused by the Soviet, right?

My favorite is the Karachay Lake one. The way Soviets continued operations despite so many critical errors is a funny story to talk about.

They didn't know of the safety risks because they didn't have the same understanding as the americans did at the time of this incident.

[Great Minarchistan]

My favorite is the Karachay Lake one. The way Soviets continued operations despite so many critical errors is a funny story to talk about.

They didn't know of the safety risks because they didn't have the same understanding as the americans did at the time of this incident.

This does not justify three (or more, I forget how many) noticeable disasters. Soviets just wanted that region to mine and process uranium full steam ahead, giving a fuck to environment or to the worker's health (ironically). Their blatant lack of planning is also funny to mention since they dumped the whole waste in a vital source of water some cities used by there.

[Datlofff]

They didn't know of the safety risks because they didn't have the same understanding as the americans did at the time of this incident.

This does not justify three (or more, I forget how many) noticeable disasters. Soviets just wanted that region to mine and process uranium full steam ahead, giving a fuck to environment or to the worker's health (ironically). Their blatant lack of planning is also funny to mention since they dumped the whole waste in a vital source of water some cities used by there.

Actually the environment part is true, they didn't care about the environment, but neither did america on multiple occasions when we decided to drop little boy, ruining the carbon in our atmosphere and making carbon dating impossible. Also the worker's health wasnt a issue considering no one had high unexpected mortality rates till the meltdown, Uranium 238 doesn't cause problems till it gets in your bloodstream, meanwhile, plutonium is the bad stuff, but they had chemical suits on though. The problems showed up after the meltdown.

[Datlofff]

They didn't know of the safety risks because they didn't have the same understanding as the americans did at the time of this incident.

This does not justify three (or more, I forget how many) noticeable disasters. Soviets just wanted that region to mine and process uranium full steam ahead, giving a fuck to environment or to the worker's health (ironically). Their blatant lack of planning is also funny to mention since they dumped the whole waste in a vital source of water some cities used by there.

Actually it does, all three disasters are from 3 different issues. Chernobyl was from improper construction, Karachay was from a boiler that wasn't big enough, etc. Think of it like a baby learning, they don't know a stove top is hot, so they touch it and burn themselves. The baby doesn't know when u make a dog mad it bites you, so it gets bit. The baby doesn't know things are sharp and it gets cut. But guess what, the baby learns from its mistakes and never repeats them.

[Great Minarchistan]

Actually it does, all three disasters are from 3 different issues. Chernobyl was from improper construction, Karachay was from a boiler that wasn't big enough, etc. Think of it like a baby learning, they don't know a stove top is hot, so they touch it and burn themselves. The baby doesn't know when u make a dog mad it bites you, so it gets bit. The baby doesn't know things are sharp and it gets cut. But guess what, the baby learns from its mistakes and never repeats them.

America was probably a smart baby then, since their death toll and environmental damage from nuclear power was much smaller than USSR's. Also I don't know how dump nuclear waste in a river that gives drinking water for the local population is justifiable. No retard in its full consciousness does this.

[Thermodolia]

Looks like the DPRK is in need of a new buyer. Someone more aligned to their political philosophy.


Now if only there were someone out there who needed massive amounts of coal. Someone with a cult of personality and a keen interest in surveillance. Someone who sees you when your sleeping. Who knows when you're awake.

The NSA?

[Great Minarchistan]

Looks like the DPRK is in need of a new buyer. Someone more aligned to their political philosophy.


Now if only there were someone out there who needed massive amounts of coal. Someone with a cult of personality and a keen interest in surveillance. Someone who sees you when your sleeping. Who knows when you're awake.

The NSA?

It's the KGB, comr- AAHHHHHHH

[Dooom35796821595]

Looks like the DPRK is in need of a new buyer. Someone more aligned to their political philosophy.


Now if only there were someone out there who needed massive amounts of coal. Someone with a cult of personality and a keen interest in surveillance. Someone who sees you when your sleeping. Who knows when you're awake.

The NSA?

Thats a weird way to say Santa...

[Thermodolia]

China is not going to disrupt their own power grid but in the interim before they can take the majority if not all of their coal plants offline, China is supposedly working on rolling out at least 100 nuclear power plants. Most other countries are too afraid of pursuing nuclear to the extent that they could be doing.

The other countries are justified, given that the nuclear waste could pollute the enviroment with radioactivity, or there could be a chance of nuclear meltdown, like Chernobyl or Fukushima-Daichi

Chernobyl was due to shity Soviet construction and tech, Fukushima didn't leak any nuclear material.

[Great Minarchistan]

The other countries are justified, given that the nuclear waste could pollute the enviroment with radioactivity, or there could be a chance of nuclear meltdown, like Chernobyl or Fukushima-Daichi

Chernobyl was due to shity Soviet construction and tech, Fukushima didn't leak any nuclear material.

Thanks for giving me another argument against soviet nuclear power ^^

[Rio Cana]

The other countries are justified, given that the nuclear waste could pollute the enviroment with radioactivity, or there could be a chance of nuclear meltdown, like Chernobyl or Fukushima-Daichi

Chernobyl was due to shity Soviet construction and tech, Fukushima didn't leak any nuclear material.

That Japanese plant released rad. water which has spread through parts of the North Pacific. It already has reached California. They say some restaurants in California give customers who want 100% safe food the option of ordering Pacific or Atlantic codfish. There is a chance, whatever small, that the Pacific codfish could be rad.

[Great Minarchistan]

Chernobyl was due to shity Soviet construction and tech, Fukushima didn't leak any nuclear material.

That Japanese plant released rad. water which has spread through parts of the North Pacific. It already has reached California. They say some restaurants in California give customers who want 100% safe food the option of ordering Pacific or Atlantic codfish. There is a chance, whatever small, that the Pacific codfish could be rad.

Fish migration doesn't help too...

[Prosorusiya]

Not surprising, given the the North Korean nuclear program is actually aimed at China, because despite all rhetoric what they fear most is becoming a tributary state of China as Korea traditionally has been in the past. I expect this will have far reaching effects of the North Korean regime, and may lead to Chine either brining Kim Jong Un to heal as a puppet and co-opting the government, or finding a replacement willing to disappear him and become their puppet. And unfortunately, that means the Korean people will still suffer, although probably less than they do right now. And that I might pay them a visit, since I am fascinated by East Asian culture and post-Soviet states, and would love to experience what North Korea is like without the Kim monarchy in place.

[Seangoli]

The other countries are justified, given that the nuclear waste could pollute the enviroment with radioactivity, or there could be a chance of nuclear meltdown, like Chernobyl or Fukushima-Daichi

Chernobyl was due to shity Soviet construction and tech, Fukushima didn't leak any nuclear material.

Even at that, Chernobyl required its operators to forcibly circumvent or completely ignore most of the safety protocols in place. It truly is a testament to the safety of the energy source when an outdated and run-down facility is put into overdrive for "reasons" causes a nuclear event, and then it still required people to physically dick around in a way that they were expressly forbidden from doing and was completely opposite from what they were supposed to be doing.

[Thermodolia]

Chernobyl was due to shity Soviet construction and tech, Fukushima didn't leak any nuclear material.

That Japanese plant released rad. water which has spread through parts of the North Pacific. It already has reached California. They say some restaurants in California give customers who want 100% safe food the option of ordering Pacific or Atlantic codfish. There is a chance, whatever small, that the Pacific codfish could be rad.

That water is not dangerous or lethal. The radioactive isotopes in the water are near zero at this point. There is no safety concern over the water or fish caught off the US west coast. Please stop peddling anti-science bullshit. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... ater-leak/

[Rio Cana]

That Japanese plant released rad. water which has spread through parts of the North Pacific. It already has reached California. They say some restaurants in California give customers who want 100% safe food the option of ordering Pacific or Atlantic codfish. There is a chance, whatever small, that the Pacific codfish could be rad.

That water is not dangerous or lethal. The radioactive isotopes in the water are near zero at this point. There is no safety concern over the water or fish caught off the US west coast. Please stop peddling anti-science bullshit. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... ater-leak/

Oh no its the NS censor police. Such vulgar language. By the way, stop crossing the bridge when there is no bridge in sight. I did not mention being anti-science but you did.

By the way, you believe everything they say. Of course, they will say its not dangerous. They do not want panic since it would collapse the multi-billion dollar fish industry. The fish industry has lobby groups. You do know that when it comes to foods

the U.S. tolerates much higher amounts of radiation

it's clear that high doses of ionizing radiation are dangerous. But the science is less clear when it comes to low dose radiation

And remember that radiation is cumulative. Most scientists agree there's no such thing as a harmless dose.

[The Corparation]

The radiation dose people on the west coast of the US received from Fukishima is less than people on the west coast of the US receive from naturally occurring background radiation. It's not significant enough to be a worry much less pose a health risk.

[Oneracon]

Hey folks, I'm no mod but the topic is back over that way

[Democratic Gupta]

Looks like the DPRK is in need of a new buyer. Someone more aligned to their political philosophy.


Now if only there were someone out there who needed massive amounts of coal. Someone with a cult of personality and a keen interest in surveillance. Someone who sees you when your sleeping. Who knows when you're awake.

The NSA?

Santa Claus?

[The Federation of Kendor]

Actually it does, all three disasters are from 3 different issues. Chernobyl was from improper construction, Karachay was from a boiler that wasn't big enough, etc. Think of it like a baby learning, they don't know a stove top is hot, so they touch it and burn themselves. The baby doesn't know when u make a dog mad it bites you, so it gets bit. The baby doesn't know things are sharp and it gets cut. But guess what, the baby learns from its mistakes and never repeats them.

America was probably a smart baby then, since their death toll and environmental damage from nuclear power was much smaller than USSR's. Also I don't know how dump nuclear waste in a river that gives drinking water for the local population is justifiable. No retard in its full consciousness does this.

Actually, there is a nuclear accident in America where nuclear products spilled into a river used by the Native Americans in a Native reservation. The government discriminated them, as they don't give them full damage fixing. Also, this unrelated discussion should continue in a new thread as it's jacking this thread

[Socialist Tera]

The other countries are justified, given that the nuclear waste could pollute the enviroment with radioactivity, or there could be a chance of nuclear meltdown, like Chernobyl or Fukushima-Daichi

Chernobyl was due to shity Soviet construction and tech, Fukushima didn't leak any nuclear material.

Revisionists cutting costs in building materials.

I have family there who is support the regime. They have never had a problem there. I have been there on holidays. I am Cuban/Polish.

Oh, a family that supports the regime. I wonder why they never had a problem on Cuba...

A majority of Cubans support the regime.

[Thermodolia]

America was probably a smart baby then, since their death toll and environmental damage from nuclear power was much smaller than USSR's. Also I don't know how dump nuclear waste in a river that gives drinking water for the local population is justifiable. No retard in its full consciousness does this.

Actually, there is a nuclear accident in America where nuclear products spilled into a river used by the Native Americans in a Native reservation. The government discriminated them, as they don't give them full damage fixing. Also, this unrelated discussion should continue in a new thread as it's jacking this thread

Plus there was a place in North Georgia where the US government just left a nuclear reactor out in the open unshielded. The place is still monitored by the EPA to this day.