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Postby NS Miami Shores » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:31 pm

Socialist Tera wrote:I really hope it does not go. I am worried of the extreme exploitation of the workers by the South, mistreating them. I don't trust the corporations to not take advantage of the workers. North Korea should be independent whether capitalist or socialist.

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Cuba is a military corrupt mafia state dictatorship for life as well as North Korea. I think the 2 North Koreans I used too work with would agree with me. The Nicaraguan lady I used to work with, who lost her 3 brothers fighting for the Nicaraguan Contras, against the Sandinista communist socialists, supported by most liberal democrats in congress, who was sent to Cuba for 2 years as so called voluntary labor on a government farm, and had to sing anti American, anti capitalists songs and slogans, like no pasaran, they shall not pass, would agree with me. The Vietnamese lady I used to work with. All 4 governments the same.

Bullshit. Fidel kicked out the mafia, Batista was working for the mafia and had many good people tortured.
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Postby NS Miami Shores » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:41 pm

At least all of us on NS live in nations where we can express our different views on a site like NS. Not in North korea, Vietnam, Sandinsta Communist Socialist nation, or Cuba.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:22 am

NS Miami Shores wrote:At least all of us on NS live in nations where we can express our different views on a site like NS. Not in North korea, Vietnam, Sandinsta Communist Socialist nation, or Cuba.

I have visited Cuba and expressed my views. Not jailed.
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:38 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:At this point, we might see North Korea decide it's now or never and try it's war on the south (without nukes, at least.)

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Postby NS Miami Shores » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:39 am

Socialist Tera wrote:
NS Miami Shores wrote:At least all of us on NS live in nations where we can express our different views on a site like NS. Not in North korea, Vietnam, Sandinsta Communist Socialist nation, or Cuba.

I have visited Cuba and expressed my views. Not jailed.


I have former Cuban political prisioners in my family and friends jailed for expressing their views. Also a family member arrested as he and his family, little kids, tried to leave-escape cuba on a raft across shark infested waters.They hid on a farm close to the coast, where they secretly built the raft. Someone who was going to go in the group, I know personally, told them don't leave, I think someone found out and told on us. They did not listen the Cuban Coast Guard was there waiting for them. I could give you so many exsamples I cant count how many. I am not surprised by your experience in Cuba if you support them as you do. The conversations my fellow co-workers and I shared, the 2 North Koreans, the Nicaraguan Lady, the Vietnamese Lady, we found we had a lot in common.
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Postby New Axiom » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:43 am

Okay, so China is going to rack North Koreas economy so hard that it's eyeballs are going to be replaced with testicles.

Wait....

Since when did North Korea even have a working economy?
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Postby Militant Costco » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:51 am

New Axiom wrote:Okay, so China is going to rack North Koreas economy so hard that it's eyeballs are going to be replaced with testicles.

Wait....

Since when did North Korea even have a working economy?

Their economy is called China with a hint of South Korea. It's literally just a bunch of Chinese/South Korean trucks driving across a bridge.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:54 am

NS Miami Shores wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I have visited Cuba and expressed my views. Not jailed.


I have former Cuban political prisioners in my family and friends jailed for expressing their views. Also a family member arrested as he and his family, little kids, tried to leave-escape cuba on a raft across shark infested waters.They hid on a farm close to the coast, where they secretly built the raft. Someone who was going to go in the group, I know personally, told them don't leave, I think someone found out and told on us. They did not listen the Cuban Coast Guard was there waiting for them. I could give you so many exsamples I cant count how many. I am not surprised by your experience in Cuba if you support them as you do. The conversations my fellow co-workers and I shared, the 2 North Koreans, the Nicaraguan Lady, the Vietnamese Lady, we found we had a lot in common.

I have family there who is support the regime. They have never had a problem there. I have been there on holidays. I am Cuban/Polish.
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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:58 am

Socialist Tera wrote:
NS Miami Shores wrote:

I have former Cuban political prisioners in my family and friends jailed for expressing their views. Also a family member arrested as he and his family, little kids, tried to leave-escape cuba on a raft across shark infested waters.They hid on a farm close to the coast, where they secretly built the raft. Someone who was going to go in the group, I know personally, told them don't leave, I think someone found out and told on us. They did not listen the Cuban Coast Guard was there waiting for them. I could give you so many exsamples I cant count how many. I am not surprised by your experience in Cuba if you support them as you do. The conversations my fellow co-workers and I shared, the 2 North Koreans, the Nicaraguan Lady, the Vietnamese Lady, we found we had a lot in common.

I have family there who is support the regime. They have never had a problem there. I have been there on holidays. I am Cuban/Polish.

How do you get the permit? Plus, you are socialist, so how do you think of your ideal version of America?
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Postby Militant Costco » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:58 am

Socialist Tera wrote:
NS Miami Shores wrote:

I have former Cuban political prisioners in my family and friends jailed for expressing their views. Also a family member arrested as he and his family, little kids, tried to leave-escape cuba on a raft across shark infested waters.They hid on a farm close to the coast, where they secretly built the raft. Someone who was going to go in the group, I know personally, told them don't leave, I think someone found out and told on us. They did not listen the Cuban Coast Guard was there waiting for them. I could give you so many exsamples I cant count how many. I am not surprised by your experience in Cuba if you support them as you do. The conversations my fellow co-workers and I shared, the 2 North Koreans, the Nicaraguan Lady, the Vietnamese Lady, we found we had a lot in common.

I have family there who is support the regime. They have never had a problem there. I have been there on holidays. I am Cuban/Polish.

Something tells me you're talking about 2000's Cuba while NS Miami Shores is talking about 1970-1980's Cuba.

I wouldn't put Cuba on par with North Korea, maybe a little more with Vietnam.
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Postby Delator » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:00 am

(Trump) said: "China should solve that problem. And if they don’t solve the problem, we should make trade very difficult for China."


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North Korea isn't going to be divided in such a manner.. If the regime collapses, it will mean reunification with South Korea. No other options exist.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:51 am

The Federation of Kendor wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I have family there who is support the regime. They have never had a problem there. I have been there on holidays. I am Cuban/Polish.

How do you get the permit? Plus, you are socialist, so how do you think of your ideal version of America?

I am Australian. I hope to see America as a decentralised version of the USSR with centralised states meeting and voting on issues.
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Postby Populi-Terrae » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:06 am

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The Federation of Kendor wrote:How do you get the permit? Plus, you are socialist, so how do you think of your ideal version of America?

I am Australian. I hope to see America as a decentralised version of the USSR with centralised states meeting and voting on issues.


That's not a good idea. Remember what happened to the USSR? Now mix that with American military budget. You have the American version of the Balkans.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:19 am

Populi-Terrae wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I am Australian. I hope to see America as a decentralised version of the USSR with centralised states meeting and voting on issues.


That's not a good idea. Remember what happened to the USSR? Now mix that with American military budget. You have the American version of the Balkans.

USSR was too centralised in the wrong areas leading to huge mistakes and inability to adapt. It was decentralised in wrong part and centralised in other parts which were wrong.
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Postby Peta Kozarska Brigada » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:25 am

NS Miami Shores wrote:At least all of us on NS live in nations where we can express our different views on a site like NS. Not in North korea, Vietnam, Sandinsta Communist Socialist nation, or Cuba.

I'd want to play the card of me being chinese but i've been here for quite a while and the cpc doesn't exactly care about people who shittalk it so nah
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Postby Albaireu » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:26 am

The more socialist and communist nations fight each other and the more they spiral towards collapse the better it is for the cause of democracy.
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Postby Peta Kozarska Brigada » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:27 am

Albaireu wrote:The more socialist and communist nations fight each other and the more they spiral towards collapse the better it is for the cause of democracy.

OH YEAH CHINA IS COMMUNIST TOTALLY
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Postby Uxupox » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:31 am

Socialist Tera wrote:
The Federation of Kendor wrote:How do you get the permit? Plus, you are socialist, so how do you think of your ideal version of America?

I am Australian. I hope to see America as a decentralised version of the USSR with centralised states meeting and voting on issues.


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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:32 am

Socialist Tera wrote:
The Federation of Kendor wrote:How do you get the permit? Plus, you are socialist, so how do you think of your ideal version of America?

I am Australian. I hope to see America as a decentralised version of the USSR with centralised states meeting and voting on issues.

Okay. But you mentioned that you are ethnically Cuban-Polish, so, do you regret the collapse of the Polish communist government. I hope China, Vietnam, Cuba, and North Korea abandon socialism/communism completely and become more democratic and progressive, as well as adopting capitalism. Though my ideal view of capitalism is the one mixed with mild socialism, so people have a more equal wealth
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Postby Socialist Tera » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:16 am

The Federation of Kendor wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I am Australian. I hope to see America as a decentralised version of the USSR with centralised states meeting and voting on issues.

Okay. But you mentioned that you are ethnically Cuban-Polish, so, do you regret the collapse of the Polish communist government. I hope China, Vietnam, Cuba, and North Korea abandon socialism/communism completely and become more democratic and progressive, as well as adopting capitalism. Though my ideal view of capitalism is the one mixed with mild socialism, so people have a more equal wealth

Of course I do. I think communism in a whole was good for Poland. Polish communism could of been better if they followed a more traditional M-L route than siding with Khrushchev. I want a society that people can achieve what they desire to be where class does not matter a paradise where one's ability is important not their starting location.
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Socialist Tera wrote:I am Australian. I hope to see America as a decentralised version of the USSR with centralised states meeting and voting on issues.


No.

If you can't argue your case I don't think there is a reason to say anything. Make an argument.
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Postby Valaran » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:27 am

Socialist Tera wrote:If you can't argue your case I don't think there is a reason to say anything. Make an argument.


One can simply express disagreement. After all, in the post that Uxupox was replying to, you were just expressing a hope, not making an argument.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:41 pm

Socialist Tera wrote:
NS Miami Shores wrote:

I have former Cuban political prisioners in my family and friends jailed for expressing their views. Also a family member arrested as he and his family, little kids, tried to leave-escape cuba on a raft across shark infested waters.They hid on a farm close to the coast, where they secretly built the raft. Someone who was going to go in the group, I know personally, told them don't leave, I think someone found out and told on us. They did not listen the Cuban Coast Guard was there waiting for them. I could give you so many exsamples I cant count how many. I am not surprised by your experience in Cuba if you support them as you do. The conversations my fellow co-workers and I shared, the 2 North Koreans, the Nicaraguan Lady, the Vietnamese Lady, we found we had a lot in common.

I have family there who is support the regime. They have never had a problem there. I have been there on holidays. I am Cuban/Polish.


Oh, a family that supports the regime. I wonder why they never had a problem on Cuba...
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Postby Datlofff » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:45 pm

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Socialists also got an ability to provoke those


The reactor at chernobyl melted down during a stress test because it wasn't built properly, socialism had nothing to do with it, don't bring your political ideals into a unrelated thread. But this is honestly flame baiting though so....
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