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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:10 am

Man, North Korea is getting more tumultuous by the second.
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Postby Chkalovsk II » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:11 am

Outer Sparta wrote:Man, North Korea is getting more tumultuous by the second.

It's going to capitulate.

I say Russia, China, Japan and South Korea divide it into 4.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:13 am

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Outer Sparta wrote:Man, North Korea is getting more tumultuous by the second.

It's going to capitulate.

I say Russia, China, Japan and South Korea divide it into 4.

Then who gets Pyongyang?
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:14 am

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Outer Sparta wrote:Man, North Korea is getting more tumultuous by the second.

It's going to capitulate.

I say Russia, China, Japan and South Korea divide it into 4.


That rings a bell.
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Postby Democratic Gupta » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:15 am

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Chkalovsk II wrote:It's going to capitulate.

I say Russia, China, Japan and South Korea divide it into 4.


That rings a bell.

Good point.
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Postby Essexia » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:15 am

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Chkalovsk II wrote:It's going to capitulate.

I say Russia, China, Japan and South Korea divide it into 4.


That rings a bell.


I was going for something else entirely.
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Postby Chkalovsk II » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:18 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Chkalovsk II wrote:It's going to capitulate.

I say Russia, China, Japan and South Korea divide it into 4.

Then who gets Pyongyang?

North, South, East, West.

Everyone can get a slice of the capital as long as they play nice :lol2:
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:21 am

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Outer Sparta wrote:Then who gets Pyongyang?

North, South, East, West.

Everyone can get a slice of the capital as long as they play nice :lol2:

Russia, China, Japan, South Korea, you play nice there, okay? Everyone can get their slice of pie and be happy.
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Postby Democratic Gupta » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:31 am

I have a feeling that, if NK gets divided into 4 pieces, it won't end up nice for any of the involved. It may as well cause a world war.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:49 am

Democratic Gupta wrote:I have a feeling that, if NK gets divided into 4 pieces, it won't end up nice for any of the involved. It may as well cause a world war.

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Postby Chkalovsk II » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:54 am

Well I don't really see a reason why Russia or China would attack South Korea and Japan.

Russia would rather have Samsung TV's than a world war.

China tho...
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Postby Rio Cana » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:48 am

Chkalovsk II wrote:Well I don't really see a reason why Russia or China would attack South Korea and Japan.

Russia would rather have Samsung TV's than a world war.

China tho...


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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:54 am

Every nation should ban the North Korean regime. It is about time that it is overthrown. The nukes are a problem, though. Or I got a great idea, economic, political, cultural and tourist relations with the government of North Korea. Lets flood it with Canadian, European and American tourists with hard currency money $.
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Postby Rio Cana » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:01 pm

It seems China has been importing good quality coal from NK. at a price 75% cheaper then if they bought it from other nations. Quality coals means cleaner air. They say this coal ban could help Russia and Australia increase there exports of this quality coal to China. But some think the Chinese might then seek cheaper quality coal which means savings but more pollution.

Read this from last year - http://www.reuters.com/article/us-colum ... SKCN0XN14Y

You do know that NK. could just ship the coal to Russia. Put a Russian sticker on the coal and then re-ship them to China. :o

Short video from last year. Train crossing from NK. into Russia. In the distance looking West is China. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSE3QLhdlec

Edit - That tower you see in the distance is also in China next to the Russian border. This is a photo from that tower looking east toward the rail bridge which crosses from Russia to NK. -
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:35 pm

If the Korean peninsula destabilizes, it would definitely be another major humanitarian crisis to add to the pile.

A reunification of Korea would not even be comparable to the issues we saw with German reunification.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:59 pm

Oneracon wrote:If the Korean peninsula destabilizes, it would definitely be another major humanitarian crisis to add to the pile.

A reunification of Korea would not even be comparable to the issues we saw with German reunification.


Tbh I hope United States or someone else just stomp their boots up Best Korea's ass and reunify that shit. Socialism failed in East Germany and in North Korea too.
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Postby Union of Despotistan » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:09 pm

I think the best would be to let the system fall by itself.
Any war there could be way too dangerous for the region.

And even tho China seems to be bothered by North Korea lately, I'm pretty sure they are more than happy to have this buffer state between them and an US ally in South Korea.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:16 pm

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Oneracon wrote:If the Korean peninsula destabilizes, it would definitely be another major humanitarian crisis to add to the pile.

A reunification of Korea would not even be comparable to the issues we saw with German reunification.


Tbh I hope United States or someone else just stomp their boots up Best Korea's ass and reunify that shit. Socialism failed in East Germany and in North Korea too.

There needs to be a plan to rebuild and unify, even with how rushed German reunification was there was still an economic merger and emergency subsidies for the GDR economy before the two countries actually merged. And given that negotiations between North and South Korea are... unlikely... the plan for rebuilding would need to be akin to a new Marshall Plan, with nations contributing substantial amounts of aid to rebuild half of a unified Korea.

The current US administration, with its protectionism and cavalier attitude toward international relations, does not strike me as a constructive contributor for that.
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Postby Democratic Gupta » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:08 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Oneracon wrote:If the Korean peninsula destabilizes, it would definitely be another major humanitarian crisis to add to the pile.

A reunification of Korea would not even be comparable to the issues we saw with German reunification.


Tbh I hope United States or someone else just stomp their boots up Best Korea's ass and reunify that shit. Socialism failed in East Germany and in North Korea too.

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Postby Datlofff » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:42 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:Good riddance. North Korea's path has been faced towards a complete collapse for a long time (thanks daddy socialism).


Socialism had less to do with it. It was more like a corrupt military dictatorship that didn't care for the people that made them completely isolated from the outside world.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:46 pm

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Great Minarchistan wrote:Good riddance. North Korea's path has been faced towards a complete collapse for a long time (thanks daddy socialism).


Socialism had less to do with it. It was more like a corrupt military dictatorship that didn't care for the people that made them completely isolated from the outside world.


That is almost the same excuse for every socialist state (and all them failed afaik). So uhhh I suppose socialism is a corrupt military dictatorship that doesn't care for their people, what made them completely isolated from the outside world?
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Great Minarchistan wrote:
Datlofff wrote:
Socialism had less to do with it. It was more like a corrupt military dictatorship that didn't care for the people that made them completely isolated from the outside world.


That is almost the same excuse for every socialist state (and all them failed afaik). So uhhh I suppose socialism is a corrupt military dictatorship that doesn't care for their people, what made them completely isolated from the outside world?


Cuba is a military corrupt mafia state dictatorship for life as well as North Korea. I think the 2 North Koreans I used too work with would agree with me. The Nicaraguan lady I used to work with, who lost her 3 brothers fighting for the Nicaraguan Contras, against the Sandinista communist socialists, supported by most liberal democrats in congress, who was sent to Cuba for 2 years as so called voluntary labor on a government farm, and had to sing anti American, anti capitalists songs and slogans, like no pasaran, they shall not pass, would agree with me. The Vietnamese lady I used to work with. All 4 governments the same.
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Postby Sacred Europe » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:09 pm

Good job China :clap: . China has been going towards better direction. It is horribly corrupt, but overall it looks like they are moving towards better future. And this might make North Korea move towards better future too
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Postby Socialist Tera » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:22 pm

I really hope it does not go. I am worried of the extreme exploitation of the workers by the South, mistreating them. I don't trust the corporations to not take advantage of the workers. North Korea should be independent whether capitalist or socialist.

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Great Minarchistan wrote:
That is almost the same excuse for every socialist state (and all them failed afaik). So uhhh I suppose socialism is a corrupt military dictatorship that doesn't care for their people, what made them completely isolated from the outside world?


Cuba is a military corrupt mafia state dictatorship for life as well as North Korea. I think the 2 North Koreans I used too work with would agree with me. The Nicaraguan lady I used to work with, who lost her 3 brothers fighting for the Nicaraguan Contras, against the Sandinista communist socialists, supported by most liberal democrats in congress, who was sent to Cuba for 2 years as so called voluntary labor on a government farm, and had to sing anti American, anti capitalists songs and slogans, like no pasaran, they shall not pass, would agree with me. The Vietnamese lady I used to work with. All 4 governments the same.

Bullshit. Fidel kicked out the mafia, Batista was working for the mafia and had many good people tortured.
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