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Izistan
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Postby Izistan » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:27 pm

Also, most of the people you are arguing with are not paedophiles. They are just non-paedos. You are an anti.


how the fuck is anything but being an anti a rational position.

How do you propose to find the pedophiles so they can be rehabilitated? You'll have to have some kind of legal apparatus under which you can round them up for rehabilitation. What do you propose?


Complete nullification as practiced by some really heavy BDSM groups would work wonders.
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Postby The Imperial Navy » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:27 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I see that you hang unto my every word. Coming to a thread you haven't even been participating in just to quote me and make some silly remark. My NA, don't you have anything else to do? :roll:


are you truly under the impression that you're interesting enough for someone to actually follow you around?

You made a post, I read it, I responded. That's kinda how things work here. But I notice that you, once again, fail to address what I actually said, instead preferring to prattle on under some self delusion that what you say is actually important.

So I'll consider your counter argument conceded.


Wow, what bit you two? Guess I missed a lot while I was away. :eyebrow:

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Postby Des-Bal » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:28 pm

Person012345 wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:
Izistan wrote:NSG: Lovingly Supporting Child Rape since 2010.
:)

noone is talking about child rape (except des bal, go figure).

Yes how twisted of me to suggest that being sexually attracted to children and sex with children are somehow related.

But they are not neccessarily together. You've been told this. You are given facts which you dismiss because they don't fit what you say. Could you explain the logic?

Also, most of the people you are arguing with are not paedophiles. They are just non-paedos. You are an anti.

I'm also anti-nazi, anti-baby shaking, and anti-dwarf tossing.
Nazism is sort of related to genocide
Baby shaking is sort of related to baby death
and dwarf tossing is sort of related to throwing dwarfs.
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Postby Neo Art » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:28 pm

The Imperial Navy wrote:Wow, what bit you two? Guess I missed a lot while I was away. :eyebrow:

Frankly, I have no idea what she's on about.
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Postby Person012345 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:29 pm

Izistan wrote:
Also, most of the people you are arguing with are not paedophiles. They are just non-paedos. You are an anti.


how the fuck is anything but being an anti a rational position.

Antis are just hateful people. They aren't pro-child, they are simply anti-pedo, hence the name. They don't care whether we do anything or not, we should all be shot/hanged/castrated etc. They just need something to hate. It used to be gays and blacks, now it's us.

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Postby Midnight Wandering » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:30 pm

Izistan wrote:
Also, most of the people you are arguing with are not paedophiles. They are just non-paedos. You are an anti.


how the fuck is anything but being an anti a rational position.

Because hating someone for their thoughts alone is not rational. Pedophiles are not automatically child molesters. Be anti-child molester all you like, but don't hate a group just because it has been unfairly lumped with another
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Postby The Imperial Navy » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:31 pm

Neo Art wrote:
The Imperial Navy wrote:Wow, what bit you two? Guess I missed a lot while I was away. :eyebrow:

Frankly, I have no idea what she's on about.


oook then, i'll say no more.

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Postby Midnight Wandering » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:31 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:
Izistan wrote:NSG: Lovingly Supporting Child Rape since 2010.
:)

noone is talking about child rape (except des bal, go figure).

Yes how twisted of me to suggest that being sexually attracted to children and sex with children are somehow related.

But they are not neccessarily together. You've been told this. You are given facts which you dismiss because they don't fit what you say. Could you explain the logic?

Also, most of the people you are arguing with are not paedophiles. They are just non-paedos. You are an anti.

I'm also anti-nazi, anti-baby shaking, and anti-dwarf tossing.
Nazism is sort of related to genocide
Baby shaking is sort of related to baby death
and dwarf tossing is sort of related to throwing dwarfs.


Your point?
"Grasping the relation of the infinite and self is an act of faith. Essentially, in virtue of absurdity, we can have both the infinite and the self in perspective and be a knight of faith. Freedom is being a ‘self’ as one wills to be… ‘Duty is the expression of God’s will’…but can’t… Can’t God be, subjectively, something or someone else? Acting for them, in duty to them, could still let us have faith. Being a knight of faith for them would mean determining your relation to the universal to your relation to the absolute"

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Postby Izistan » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:31 pm

Person012345 wrote:
Izistan wrote:
Also, most of the people you are arguing with are not paedophiles. They are just non-paedos. You are an anti.


how the fuck is anything but being an anti a rational position.

Antis are just hateful people. They aren't pro-child, they are simply anti-pedo, hence the name. They don't care whether we do anything or not, we should all be shot/hanged/castrated etc. They just need something to hate. It used to be gays and blacks, now it's us.


oh so its like fursecution but with sick fucks that want to get it on with children

got it
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Postby Station 12 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:31 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Station 12 wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Station 12 wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
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Des-Bal wrote:But there were other ways for them legally to act on those desires pedophiles don't have a legal outlet.

The only legal outlet is asking someone else if they want to have sex. Not many people are going to automatically fuck you because you ask them.

We don't all use 'so do you wanna' as a pick-up line.

If they resorted to rape then obviously doing it the proper way wasn't fast enough for them.

Considering that normal people do not rape on a regular basis, I would say that most of us are capable of holding in our urge to jump on each other.

Since the ONLY trait of pedophilia is being sexually attracted to children, and humans can control their sexual urge, I would arrive at the logical conclusion that- gasp -pedophiles are people too, and shouldn't be persecuted or "rehabilitated" against their will just because a few people don't know what a fetish is.

Then the issue there is that they were socially inept not that they had desires. Supressing sexual urges is an excellent way to make serial killers.

So all of those monks and nuns should go ahead and revoke that vow of celibacy before they kill us all?

That would be an EXCELLENT argument if it wasn't for all the preacher rape. In fact that makes it an excellent argument for me.

When was the last time one of those happened?

And how common are they?

And how many priests are there in the world?

I'm pretty sure the "Sexually frustrated rapist" ratio to "Perfectly ordinary guy with control over his own actions" isn't that high.
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Postby Sailsia » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:32 pm

um, okay, you say so, but how can we believe you?
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:32 pm

Izistan wrote:oh so its like fursecution but with sick fucks that want to get it on with children

got it


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A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Postby Cascade States 2 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:32 pm

Person012345 wrote:
Izistan wrote:
Also, most of the people you are arguing with are not paedophiles. They are just non-paedos. You are an anti.


how the fuck is anything but being an anti a rational position.

Antis are just hateful people. They aren't pro-child, they are simply anti-pedo, hence the name. They don't care whether we do anything or not, we should all be shot/hanged/castrated etc. They just need something to hate. It used to be gays and blacks, now it's us.



Not true.

Hating people for trying to subvert children is hardly a sign of poor taste.
And yes they should be shot, hung and burned...

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Postby Des-Bal » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:33 pm

Midnight Wandering wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:
Izistan wrote:NSG: Lovingly Supporting Child Rape since 2010.
:)

noone is talking about child rape (except des bal, go figure).

Yes how twisted of me to suggest that being sexually attracted to children and sex with children are somehow related.

But they are not neccessarily together. You've been told this. You are given facts which you dismiss because they don't fit what you say. Could you explain the logic?

Also, most of the people you are arguing with are not paedophiles. They are just non-paedos. You are an anti.

I'm also anti-nazi, anti-baby shaking, and anti-dwarf tossing.
Nazism is sort of related to genocide
Baby shaking is sort of related to baby death
and dwarf tossing is sort of related to throwing dwarfs.


Your point?


Child molestation is related to pedophilia in the same sense that nazis are related to kiling jews.
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Postby Des-Bal » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:34 pm

There, now I really hope you see that I am not a troll or irrational. They aren't trolls either and they are likley not the most radical.
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Postby Person012345 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:34 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:
Izistan wrote:NSG: Lovingly Supporting Child Rape since 2010.
:)

noone is talking about child rape (except des bal, go figure).

Yes how twisted of me to suggest that being sexually attracted to children and sex with children are somehow related.

But they are not neccessarily together. You've been told this. You are given facts which you dismiss because they don't fit what you say. Could you explain the logic?

Also, most of the people you are arguing with are not paedophiles. They are just non-paedos. You are an anti.

I'm also anti-nazi, anti-baby shaking, and anti-dwarf tossing.
Nazism is sort of related to genocide
Baby shaking is sort of related to baby death
and dwarf tossing is sort of related to throwing dwarfs.

This is not a logical argument. You basically just said "I'm right because I'm right". And here's how:
I think X is like Y
I will take completely unrelated statement (baby shaking for example has nothing to do with paedophilia) Z is like A
Therefore X is like Y

It is not a logical argument. Try again.

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Postby Midnight Wandering » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:34 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Midnight Wandering wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:
Izistan wrote:NSG: Lovingly Supporting Child Rape since 2010.
:)

noone is talking about child rape (except des bal, go figure).

Yes how twisted of me to suggest that being sexually attracted to children and sex with children are somehow related.

But they are not neccessarily together. You've been told this. You are given facts which you dismiss because they don't fit what you say. Could you explain the logic?

Also, most of the people you are arguing with are not paedophiles. They are just non-paedos. You are an anti.

I'm also anti-nazi, anti-baby shaking, and anti-dwarf tossing.
Nazism is sort of related to genocide
Baby shaking is sort of related to baby death
and dwarf tossing is sort of related to throwing dwarfs.


Your point?


Child molestation is related to pedophilia in the same sense that nazis are related to kiling jews.


Oh I get it! You're finally understanding that not all child molesters are pedophiles, the same way not all people who killed Jews were Nazis
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:34 pm

My 3rd Floor Flat wrote:You are ignoring my point.

My point is this.

Chemical imbalance = illness.


I still don't recall you providing a credible source that proves homosexuality, or pedophilia, is the result of a "chemical imbalance".
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Postby The Imperial Navy » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:34 pm

Des-Bal wrote:Child molestation is related to pedophilia in the same sense that nazis are related to kiling jews.


That is the worst comparison I have ever seen.

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Postby Izistan » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:35 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Izistan wrote:oh so its like fursecution but with sick fucks that want to get it on with children

got it


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*posts retarded meme to somehow defend morally abhorrent position, is NSG superstar*
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:35 pm

Des-Bal wrote:Child molestation is related to pedophilia in the same sense that nazis are related to kiling jews.


Bullshit. Nazism is an ideology which can be voluntarily accepted and which preaches hatred of so-called lesser races.

Pedophilia is neither an ideology nor is it voluntary. As it isn't an ideology, it can't preach the message of molesting children.
A little homework for you!

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Postby Station 12 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:35 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Midnight Wandering wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:
Izistan wrote:NSG: Lovingly Supporting Child Rape since 2010.
:)

noone is talking about child rape (except des bal, go figure).

Yes how twisted of me to suggest that being sexually attracted to children and sex with children are somehow related.

But they are not neccessarily together. You've been told this. You are given facts which you dismiss because they don't fit what you say. Could you explain the logic?

Also, most of the people you are arguing with are not paedophiles. They are just non-paedos. You are an anti.

I'm also anti-nazi, anti-baby shaking, and anti-dwarf tossing.
Nazism is sort of related to genocide
Baby shaking is sort of related to baby death
and dwarf tossing is sort of related to throwing dwarfs.


Your point?


Child molestation is related to pedophilia in the same sense that nazis are related to kiling jews.

Criminalizing a group of people by comparing them to nazis? Not only is that an overused tactic but it's a logical fallacy.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:35 pm

The Imperial Navy wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I see that you hang unto my every word. Coming to a thread you haven't even been participating in just to quote me and make some silly remark. My NA, don't you have anything else to do? :roll:


are you truly under the impression that you're interesting enough for someone to actually follow you around?

You made a post, I read it, I responded. That's kinda how things work here. But I notice that you, once again, fail to address what I actually said, instead preferring to prattle on under some self delusion that what you say is actually important.

So I'll consider your counter argument conceded.


Wow, what bit you two? Guess I missed a lot while I was away. :eyebrow:

Oh, don't worry. You missed nothing important. Usually that's how I take NA's prattling.
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Postby The Imperial Navy » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:36 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Oh, don't worry. You missed nothing important. Usually that's how I take NA's prattling.


Righty-o.

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:36 pm

Izistan wrote:*posts retarded meme to somehow defend morally abhorrent position, is NSG superstar*


*Is retarded enough to think pedophilia is a position, thus demonstrating a complete misunderstanding of the term position.*
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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