I'm probably going to alienate a lot of people but...

[Our L Lawliet]

We don't need to get rid of it we just need to be aware there might be something SEVERELY WRONG. That way we wouldn't be surprised when poets go crazy or kill themselves.

There's something severely wrong with artists for showing the dark side of life? Why? Does portrayal of the less pleasant things make them unstable or a harm to themselves or others? Why?

Yes it does... If you really want to burn something you probably will.

Since you failed to see my point before, I'll just spell it out: burning SOMETHING is not a crime. You assume that because people like to burn things they'll burn something illegaly, such as a house. But that's entirely irrelevant.

95% of people that molest children are pedophiles. The other five are indiscriminants and I really think those should be counted.

Source? Proof? Studies?

Here, let me help you out by providing a starting point.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pedophilia

[The Master of Worlds]

Just because something thinks something doesn't mean that they will do it. For example, you thought about killing pedophiles and doing a sexually perveted act yourself satania. I think maybe there are some issues you might have, sexually frustrated yourself perhaps? Maybe an fixation or two?

At any rate, if you look back on society throughout history, you'll see that it wasn't uncommon for children and young adults to engage in sexual activities. Somewhere along the lines that became wrong. My guess would be when people started living longer and the need for people to procreate at younger ages became unnecessary.

Looking at society now, people tend to have a largely "as long as no one gets hurt" view of things. No one's going around patting people on the back because they are pedophiles, they're just glad that they don't harm children. I mean, as far as I've seen on this thread, no one has admitted to actually having sex with a child. Granted there are around 70 pages for this thread now, and I may have missed something.

So as far as I can tell, not a single crime has been committed. No crime, no punishment. Even though I don't agree with pedophilia, I hate to see otherwise normal people who can lead just as productive a life as you or I can being descrimated against based on thoughts. I see no need to punish a person until the actual act of a crime is committed, regardless of the crime. Of course, there is also stopping someone from committing a murder and so forth and so on, but unless someone sees them about to have sexual relations with an actual child, then they have done nothing wrong.

The point I'm getting at is: No crime? Back off.

[Des-Bal]

We don't need to get rid of it we just need to be aware there might be something SEVERELY WRONG. That way we wouldn't be surprised when poets go crazy or kill themselves.

There's something severely wrong with artists for showing the dark side of life? Why? Does portrayal of the less pleasant things make them unstable or a harm to themselves or others? Why?

Yes it does... If you really want to burn something you probably will.

Since you failed to see my point before, I'll just spell it out: burning SOMETHING is not a crime. You assume that because people like to burn things they'll burn something illegaly, such as a house. But that's entirely irrelevant.

95% of people that molest children are pedophiles. The other five are indiscriminants and I really think those should be counted.

Source? Proof? Studies?

Here, let me help you out by providing a starting point.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pedophilia

It doesn't make them anything its a sign there might be a problem.
Try to legally have sex with a child. Seriously I'll wait.
Mayo University or clinic or something the statistic was brought up no less than seven times go back about twenty pages and find it.

[FreeSatania]

Just because something thinks something doesn't mean that they will do it. For example, you thought about killing pedophiles and doing a sexually perveted act yourself satania. I think maybe there are some issues you might have, sexually frustrated yourself perhaps? Maybe an fixation or two?

At any rate, if you look back on society throughout history, you'll see that it wasn't uncommon for children and young adults to engage in sexual activities. Somewhere along the lines that became wrong. My guess would be when people started living longer and the need for people to procreate at younger ages became unnecessary.

Looking at society now, people tend to have a largely "as long as no one gets hurt" view of things. No one's going around patting people on the back because they are pedophiles, they're just glad that they harm children. I mean, as far as I've seen on this thread, no one has admitted to actually having sex with a child. Granted there are around 70 pages for this thread now, and I may have missed something.

So as far as I can tell, not a single crime has been committed. No crime, no punishment. Even though I don't agree with pedophilia, I hate to see otherwise normal people who can lead just as productive a life as you or I can being descrimated against based on thoughts. I see no need to punish a person until the actual act of a crime is committed, regardless of the crime. Of course, there is also stopping someone from committing a murder and so forth and so on, but unless someone sees them about to have sexual relations with an actual child, then they have done nothing wrong.

The point I'm getting at is: No crime? Back off.

Just because there's no crime that we know of doesn't mean I have to buy the BS argument that I should love and accept paedophiles for who they are. No crime no jail time but if you love kids your not getting any love from me. That's just how it is.

[Our L Lawliet]

It doesn't make them anything its a sign there might be a problem.

I ask yet again: why?

Try to legally have sex with a child. Seriously I'll wait.

I already explained that that is irrelevant.

Mayo University or clinic or something the statistic was brought up no less than seven times go back about twenty pages and find it.

I wonder how many people there are that don't admit to being pedophiles.

The chap above me put it nicely. No crime, back off.

[Our L Lawliet]

Just because something thinks something doesn't mean that they will do it. For example, you thought about killing pedophiles and doing a sexually perveted act yourself satania. I think maybe there are some issues you might have, sexually frustrated yourself perhaps? Maybe an fixation or two?

At any rate, if you look back on society throughout history, you'll see that it wasn't uncommon for children and young adults to engage in sexual activities. Somewhere along the lines that became wrong. My guess would be when people started living longer and the need for people to procreate at younger ages became unnecessary.

Looking at society now, people tend to have a largely "as long as no one gets hurt" view of things. No one's going around patting people on the back because they are pedophiles, they're just glad that they harm children. I mean, as far as I've seen on this thread, no one has admitted to actually having sex with a child. Granted there are around 70 pages for this thread now, and I may have missed something.

So as far as I can tell, not a single crime has been committed. No crime, no punishment. Even though I don't agree with pedophilia, I hate to see otherwise normal people who can lead just as productive a life as you or I can being descrimated against based on thoughts. I see no need to punish a person until the actual act of a crime is committed, regardless of the crime. Of course, there is also stopping someone from committing a murder and so forth and so on, but unless someone sees them about to have sexual relations with an actual child, then they have done nothing wrong.

The point I'm getting at is: No crime? Back off.

Just because there's no crime that we know of doesn't mean I have to buy the BS argument that I should love and accept paedophiles for who they are. No crime no jail time but if you love kids your not getting any love from me. That's just how it is.

So if your best friend cured cancer, went golf with you every other weekend and held pleasant conversations with you, bailed you out of jail and allowed you to tell him all your secrets and provided advice, and then one day said he felt sexually attracted to children, you'd get all hard-faced and walk away and never speak to him again?

[FreeSatania]

It doesn't make them anything its a sign there might be a problem.

I ask yet again: why?

Try to legally have sex with a child. Seriously I'll wait.

I already explained that that is irrelevant.

Mayo University or clinic or something the statistic was brought up no less than seven times go back about twenty pages and find it.

I wonder how many people there are that don't admit to being pedophiles.

The chap above me put it nicely. No crime, back off.

Except that your on the interwebz discussing the matter. So as long as the issue is on the table... I'm still not loving the paedophiles.

[FreeSatania]

Just because something thinks something doesn't mean that they will do it. For example, you thought about killing pedophiles and doing a sexually perveted act yourself satania. I think maybe there are some issues you might have, sexually frustrated yourself perhaps? Maybe an fixation or two?

At any rate, if you look back on society throughout history, you'll see that it wasn't uncommon for children and young adults to engage in sexual activities. Somewhere along the lines that became wrong. My guess would be when people started living longer and the need for people to procreate at younger ages became unnecessary.

Looking at society now, people tend to have a largely "as long as no one gets hurt" view of things. No one's going around patting people on the back because they are pedophiles, they're just glad that they harm children. I mean, as far as I've seen on this thread, no one has admitted to actually having sex with a child. Granted there are around 70 pages for this thread now, and I may have missed something.

So as far as I can tell, not a single crime has been committed. No crime, no punishment. Even though I don't agree with pedophilia, I hate to see otherwise normal people who can lead just as productive a life as you or I can being descrimated against based on thoughts. I see no need to punish a person until the actual act of a crime is committed, regardless of the crime. Of course, there is also stopping someone from committing a murder and so forth and so on, but unless someone sees them about to have sexual relations with an actual child, then they have done nothing wrong.

The point I'm getting at is: No crime? Back off.

Just because there's no crime that we know of doesn't mean I have to buy the BS argument that I should love and accept paedophiles for who they are. No crime no jail time but if you love kids your not getting any love from me. That's just how it is.

So if your best friend cured cancer, went golf with you every other weekend and held pleasant conversations with you, bailed you out of jail and allowed you to tell him all your secrets and provided advice, and then one day said he felt sexually attracted to children, you'd get all hard-faced and walk away and never speak to him again?

No but I'd probably punch him in the mouth.

[Our L Lawliet]

Just because something thinks something doesn't mean that they will do it. For example, you thought about killing pedophiles and doing a sexually perveted act yourself satania. I think maybe there are some issues you might have, sexually frustrated yourself perhaps? Maybe an fixation or two?

At any rate, if you look back on society throughout history, you'll see that it wasn't uncommon for children and young adults to engage in sexual activities. Somewhere along the lines that became wrong. My guess would be when people started living longer and the need for people to procreate at younger ages became unnecessary.

Looking at society now, people tend to have a largely "as long as no one gets hurt" view of things. No one's going around patting people on the back because they are pedophiles, they're just glad that they harm children. I mean, as far as I've seen on this thread, no one has admitted to actually having sex with a child. Granted there are around 70 pages for this thread now, and I may have missed something.

So as far as I can tell, not a single crime has been committed. No crime, no punishment. Even though I don't agree with pedophilia, I hate to see otherwise normal people who can lead just as productive a life as you or I can being descrimated against based on thoughts. I see no need to punish a person until the actual act of a crime is committed, regardless of the crime. Of course, there is also stopping someone from committing a murder and so forth and so on, but unless someone sees them about to have sexual relations with an actual child, then they have done nothing wrong.

The point I'm getting at is: No crime? Back off.

Just because there's no crime that we know of doesn't mean I have to buy the BS argument that I should love and accept paedophiles for who they are. No crime no jail time but if you love kids your not getting any love from me. That's just how it is.

So if your best friend cured cancer, went golf with you every other weekend and held pleasant conversations with you, bailed you out of jail and allowed you to tell him all your secrets and provided advice, and then one day said he felt sexually attracted to children, you'd get all hard-faced and walk away and never speak to him again?

No but I'd probably punch him in the mouth.

For a crime he didn't commit? Some best friend you are.

[Des-Bal]

It doesn't make them anything its a sign there might be a problem.

I ask yet again: why?

Try to legally have sex with a child. Seriously I'll wait.

I already explained that that is irrelevant.

Mayo University or clinic or something the statistic was brought up no less than seven times go back about twenty pages and find it.

I wonder how many people there are that don't admit to being pedophiles.

The chap above me put it nicely. No crime, back off.

Because to take something twisted out of your mind there has to be something twisted in your mind. Thats why poets often kill themselves or go completely insane.
No its not!
You know thats great logic. These people profess a desire for a world without israealites. They profess a desire to blow up a building. They profess a desire to blow up a building by crashing a plane into it. The twin towers go down and we wonder how nobody saw it coming. The thing about not acting when someone wants to commit a crime is its freaking stupid, you don't need to put them in jail just get them some freaking help.

[BrightonBurg]

I blame Bush for this thread...

Muahahah...

[2nd PLT]

Just because something thinks something doesn't mean that they will do it. For example, you thought about killing pedophiles and doing a sexually perveted act yourself satania. I think maybe there are some issues you might have, sexually frustrated yourself perhaps? Maybe an fixation or two?

At any rate, if you look back on society throughout history, you'll see that it wasn't uncommon for children and young adults to engage in sexual activities. Somewhere along the lines that became wrong. My guess would be when people started living longer and the need for people to procreate at younger ages became unnecessary.

Looking at society now, people tend to have a largely "as long as no one gets hurt" view of things. No one's going around patting people on the back because they are pedophiles, they're just glad that they harm children. I mean, as far as I've seen on this thread, no one has admitted to actually having sex with a child. Granted there are around 70 pages for this thread now, and I may have missed something.

So as far as I can tell, not a single crime has been committed. No crime, no punishment. Even though I don't agree with pedophilia, I hate to see otherwise normal people who can lead just as productive a life as you or I can being descrimated against based on thoughts. I see no need to punish a person until the actual act of a crime is committed, regardless of the crime. Of course, there is also stopping someone from committing a murder and so forth and so on, but unless someone sees them about to have sexual relations with an actual child, then they have done nothing wrong.

The point I'm getting at is: No crime? Back off.

Just because there's no crime that we know of doesn't mean I have to buy the BS argument that I should love and accept paedophiles for who they are. No crime no jail time but if you love kids your not getting any love from me. That's just how it is.

So if your best friend cured cancer, went golf with you every other weekend and held pleasant conversations with you, bailed you out of jail and allowed you to tell him all your secrets and provided advice, and then one day said he felt sexually attracted to children, you'd get all hard-faced and walk away and never speak to him again?

No but I'd probably punch him in the mouth.

My answer would involve a knife, and the target would be lower, and he might survive it.

[Des-Bal]

Just because something thinks something doesn't mean that they will do it. For example, you thought about killing pedophiles and doing a sexually perveted act yourself satania. I think maybe there are some issues you might have, sexually frustrated yourself perhaps? Maybe an fixation or two?

At any rate, if you look back on society throughout history, you'll see that it wasn't uncommon for children and young adults to engage in sexual activities. Somewhere along the lines that became wrong. My guess would be when people started living longer and the need for people to procreate at younger ages became unnecessary.

Looking at society now, people tend to have a largely "as long as no one gets hurt" view of things. No one's going around patting people on the back because they are pedophiles, they're just glad that they harm children. I mean, as far as I've seen on this thread, no one has admitted to actually having sex with a child. Granted there are around 70 pages for this thread now, and I may have missed something.

So as far as I can tell, not a single crime has been committed. No crime, no punishment. Even though I don't agree with pedophilia, I hate to see otherwise normal people who can lead just as productive a life as you or I can being descrimated against based on thoughts. I see no need to punish a person until the actual act of a crime is committed, regardless of the crime. Of course, there is also stopping someone from committing a murder and so forth and so on, but unless someone sees them about to have sexual relations with an actual child, then they have done nothing wrong.

The point I'm getting at is: No crime? Back off.

Just because there's no crime that we know of doesn't mean I have to buy the BS argument that I should love and accept paedophiles for who they are. No crime no jail time but if you love kids your not getting any love from me. That's just how it is.

So if your best friend cured cancer, went golf with you every other weekend and held pleasant conversations with you, bailed you out of jail and allowed you to tell him all your secrets and provided advice, and then one day said he felt sexually attracted to children, you'd get all hard-faced and walk away and never speak to him again?

No but I'd probably punch him in the mouth.

Why choose you can do both.

[Our L Lawliet]

Just because something thinks something doesn't mean that they will do it. For example, you thought about killing pedophiles and doing a sexually perveted act yourself satania. I think maybe there are some issues you might have, sexually frustrated yourself perhaps? Maybe an fixation or two?

At any rate, if you look back on society throughout history, you'll see that it wasn't uncommon for children and young adults to engage in sexual activities. Somewhere along the lines that became wrong. My guess would be when people started living longer and the need for people to procreate at younger ages became unnecessary.

Looking at society now, people tend to have a largely "as long as no one gets hurt" view of things. No one's going around patting people on the back because they are pedophiles, they're just glad that they harm children. I mean, as far as I've seen on this thread, no one has admitted to actually having sex with a child. Granted there are around 70 pages for this thread now, and I may have missed something.

So as far as I can tell, not a single crime has been committed. No crime, no punishment. Even though I don't agree with pedophilia, I hate to see otherwise normal people who can lead just as productive a life as you or I can being descrimated against based on thoughts. I see no need to punish a person until the actual act of a crime is committed, regardless of the crime. Of course, there is also stopping someone from committing a murder and so forth and so on, but unless someone sees them about to have sexual relations with an actual child, then they have done nothing wrong.

The point I'm getting at is: No crime? Back off.

Just because there's no crime that we know of doesn't mean I have to buy the BS argument that I should love and accept paedophiles for who they are. No crime no jail time but if you love kids your not getting any love from me. That's just how it is.

So if your best friend cured cancer, went golf with you every other weekend and held pleasant conversations with you, bailed you out of jail and allowed you to tell him all your secrets and provided advice, and then one day said he felt sexually attracted to children, you'd get all hard-faced and walk away and never speak to him again?

No but I'd probably punch him in the mouth.

My answer would involve a knife, and the target would be lower, and he might survive it.

Whoah, whoah, whoah, don't make me call the thought police on you for violent images.

[FreeSatania]

Just because something thinks something doesn't mean that they will do it. For example, you thought about killing pedophiles and doing a sexually perveted act yourself satania. I think maybe there are some issues you might have, sexually frustrated yourself perhaps? Maybe an fixation or two?

At any rate, if you look back on society throughout history, you'll see that it wasn't uncommon for children and young adults to engage in sexual activities. Somewhere along the lines that became wrong. My guess would be when people started living longer and the need for people to procreate at younger ages became unnecessary.

Looking at society now, people tend to have a largely "as long as no one gets hurt" view of things. No one's going around patting people on the back because they are pedophiles, they're just glad that they harm children. I mean, as far as I've seen on this thread, no one has admitted to actually having sex with a child. Granted there are around 70 pages for this thread now, and I may have missed something.

So as far as I can tell, not a single crime has been committed. No crime, no punishment. Even though I don't agree with pedophilia, I hate to see otherwise normal people who can lead just as productive a life as you or I can being descrimated against based on thoughts. I see no need to punish a person until the actual act of a crime is committed, regardless of the crime. Of course, there is also stopping someone from committing a murder and so forth and so on, but unless someone sees them about to have sexual relations with an actual child, then they have done nothing wrong.

The point I'm getting at is: No crime? Back off.

Just because there's no crime that we know of doesn't mean I have to buy the BS argument that I should love and accept paedophiles for who they are. No crime no jail time but if you love kids your not getting any love from me. That's just how it is.

So if your best friend cured cancer, went golf with you every other weekend and held pleasant conversations with you, bailed you out of jail and allowed you to tell him all your secrets and provided advice, and then one day said he felt sexually attracted to children, you'd get all hard-faced and walk away and never speak to him again?

No but I'd probably punch him in the mouth.

For a crime he didn't commit? Some best friend you are.

Meh, his fault for being a paedophile. And if he raped a kid I'd do a lot worse.

[Des-Bal]

Just because something thinks something doesn't mean that they will do it. For example, you thought about killing pedophiles and doing a sexually perveted act yourself satania. I think maybe there are some issues you might have, sexually frustrated yourself perhaps? Maybe an fixation or two?

At any rate, if you look back on society throughout history, you'll see that it wasn't uncommon for children and young adults to engage in sexual activities. Somewhere along the lines that became wrong. My guess would be when people started living longer and the need for people to procreate at younger ages became unnecessary.

Looking at society now, people tend to have a largely "as long as no one gets hurt" view of things. No one's going around patting people on the back because they are pedophiles, they're just glad that they harm children. I mean, as far as I've seen on this thread, no one has admitted to actually having sex with a child. Granted there are around 70 pages for this thread now, and I may have missed something.

So as far as I can tell, not a single crime has been committed. No crime, no punishment. Even though I don't agree with pedophilia, I hate to see otherwise normal people who can lead just as productive a life as you or I can being descrimated against based on thoughts. I see no need to punish a person until the actual act of a crime is committed, regardless of the crime. Of course, there is also stopping someone from committing a murder and so forth and so on, but unless someone sees them about to have sexual relations with an actual child, then they have done nothing wrong.

The point I'm getting at is: No crime? Back off.

Just because there's no crime that we know of doesn't mean I have to buy the BS argument that I should love and accept paedophiles for who they are. No crime no jail time but if you love kids your not getting any love from me. That's just how it is.

So if your best friend cured cancer, went golf with you every other weekend and held pleasant conversations with you, bailed you out of jail and allowed you to tell him all your secrets and provided advice, and then one day said he felt sexually attracted to children, you'd get all hard-faced and walk away and never speak to him again?

No but I'd probably punch him in the mouth.

My answer would involve a knife, and the target would be lower, and he might survive it.

Whoah, whoah, whoah, don't make me call the thought police on you for violent images.

Yeah assuming someones going to commit a crime when it becomes aware they want to commit a crime might not seem logical to you but if you fix the problem before it happens you bury alot less people.

[2nd PLT]

Whoah, whoah, whoah, don't make me call the thought police on you for violent images.

That's a happy thought, Not an image! Besides, I could have gotten a lot more graphic.
And (If he survived) I would still be friends with him.

[Our L Lawliet]

Just because something thinks something doesn't mean that they will do it. For example, you thought about killing pedophiles and doing a sexually perveted act yourself satania. I think maybe there are some issues you might have, sexually frustrated yourself perhaps? Maybe an fixation or two?

At any rate, if you look back on society throughout history, you'll see that it wasn't uncommon for children and young adults to engage in sexual activities. Somewhere along the lines that became wrong. My guess would be when people started living longer and the need for people to procreate at younger ages became unnecessary.

Looking at society now, people tend to have a largely "as long as no one gets hurt" view of things. No one's going around patting people on the back because they are pedophiles, they're just glad that they harm children. I mean, as far as I've seen on this thread, no one has admitted to actually having sex with a child. Granted there are around 70 pages for this thread now, and I may have missed something.

So as far as I can tell, not a single crime has been committed. No crime, no punishment. Even though I don't agree with pedophilia, I hate to see otherwise normal people who can lead just as productive a life as you or I can being descrimated against based on thoughts. I see no need to punish a person until the actual act of a crime is committed, regardless of the crime. Of course, there is also stopping someone from committing a murder and so forth and so on, but unless someone sees them about to have sexual relations with an actual child, then they have done nothing wrong.

The point I'm getting at is: No crime? Back off.

Just because there's no crime that we know of doesn't mean I have to buy the BS argument that I should love and accept paedophiles for who they are. No crime no jail time but if you love kids your not getting any love from me. That's just how it is.

So if your best friend cured cancer, went golf with you every other weekend and held pleasant conversations with you, bailed you out of jail and allowed you to tell him all your secrets and provided advice, and then one day said he felt sexually attracted to children, you'd get all hard-faced and walk away and never speak to him again?

No but I'd probably punch him in the mouth.

For a crime he didn't commit? Some best friend you are.

Meh, his fault for being a paedophile.

No it isn't.

[Tahar Joblis]

You suspect wrong (regarding the Greeks and Romans in general)

I suppose it depends on the lines we draw, no?

And what we draw. There are a certain number of women who really really like kids and are physically affectionate with them. They don't grope their genitals, but they're clearly very excited to be around children, especially young children. This is considered socially acceptable; anything short of genital-groping, including "friendly" pats on the butt [most sexualized part of the body vis-a-vis straight women, according to the survey], big hugs, et cetera, even if the kid squirms a little and seems a little uncomfortable with it.

Are these women pedophiles? Do these women really really love kids? Just how do we define a pedophile?

We especially run into this problem in popular media going the other direction. Is someone who sleeps with a [physically mature] 13 year old a pedophile? Is the young woman who just bubbles over how adorable those kids are a pedophile? Is the 16 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend a pedophile?

Without reading it, I'll bet that half the ranting in this thread is definitional. And I'm with The Master of Worlds here: If nobody has been harmed, no wrong is done. You can fantasize about using toddlers to sodomize sheep and it's none of my damn business until you try to bring that into the real world.

[FreeSatania]

Just because something thinks something doesn't mean that they will do it. For example, you thought about killing pedophiles and doing a sexually perveted act yourself satania. I think maybe there are some issues you might have, sexually frustrated yourself perhaps? Maybe an fixation or two?

At any rate, if you look back on society throughout history, you'll see that it wasn't uncommon for children and young adults to engage in sexual activities. Somewhere along the lines that became wrong. My guess would be when people started living longer and the need for people to procreate at younger ages became unnecessary.

Looking at society now, people tend to have a largely "as long as no one gets hurt" view of things. No one's going around patting people on the back because they are pedophiles, they're just glad that they harm children. I mean, as far as I've seen on this thread, no one has admitted to actually having sex with a child. Granted there are around 70 pages for this thread now, and I may have missed something.

So as far as I can tell, not a single crime has been committed. No crime, no punishment. Even though I don't agree with pedophilia, I hate to see otherwise normal people who can lead just as productive a life as you or I can being descrimated against based on thoughts. I see no need to punish a person until the actual act of a crime is committed, regardless of the crime. Of course, there is also stopping someone from committing a murder and so forth and so on, but unless someone sees them about to have sexual relations with an actual child, then they have done nothing wrong.

The point I'm getting at is: No crime? Back off.

Just because there's no crime that we know of doesn't mean I have to buy the BS argument that I should love and accept paedophiles for who they are. No crime no jail time but if you love kids your not getting any love from me. That's just how it is.

So if your best friend cured cancer, went golf with you every other weekend and held pleasant conversations with you, bailed you out of jail and allowed you to tell him all your secrets and provided advice, and then one day said he felt sexually attracted to children, you'd get all hard-faced and walk away and never speak to him again?

No but I'd probably punch him in the mouth.

My answer would involve a knife, and the target would be lower, and he might survive it.

Whoah, whoah, whoah, don't make me call the thought police on you for violent images.

Yeah assuming someones going to commit a crime when it becomes aware they want to commit a crime might not seem logical to you but if you fix the problem before it happens you bury alot less people.

I think it's also partly that we're unwilling to wait for something to possibly go wrong when it comes to protecting the neighbourhood kids.

[Des-Bal]

Just because something thinks something doesn't mean that they will do it. For example, you thought about killing pedophiles and doing a sexually perveted act yourself satania. I think maybe there are some issues you might have, sexually frustrated yourself perhaps? Maybe an fixation or two?

At any rate, if you look back on society throughout history, you'll see that it wasn't uncommon for children and young adults to engage in sexual activities. Somewhere along the lines that became wrong. My guess would be when people started living longer and the need for people to procreate at younger ages became unnecessary.

Looking at society now, people tend to have a largely "as long as no one gets hurt" view of things. No one's going around patting people on the back because they are pedophiles, they're just glad that they harm children. I mean, as far as I've seen on this thread, no one has admitted to actually having sex with a child. Granted there are around 70 pages for this thread now, and I may have missed something.

So as far as I can tell, not a single crime has been committed. No crime, no punishment. Even though I don't agree with pedophilia, I hate to see otherwise normal people who can lead just as productive a life as you or I can being descrimated against based on thoughts. I see no need to punish a person until the actual act of a crime is committed, regardless of the crime. Of course, there is also stopping someone from committing a murder and so forth and so on, but unless someone sees them about to have sexual relations with an actual child, then they have done nothing wrong.

The point I'm getting at is: No crime? Back off.

Just because there's no crime that we know of doesn't mean I have to buy the BS argument that I should love and accept paedophiles for who they are. No crime no jail time but if you love kids your not getting any love from me. That's just how it is.

So if your best friend cured cancer, went golf with you every other weekend and held pleasant conversations with you, bailed you out of jail and allowed you to tell him all your secrets and provided advice, and then one day said he felt sexually attracted to children, you'd get all hard-faced and walk away and never speak to him again?

No but I'd probably punch him in the mouth.

For a crime he didn't commit? Some best friend you are.

Meh, his fault for being a paedophile.

No it isn't.

Ignoring that that comes from the font of all knowledge wikipedia if he decided not to go for treatment it IS his fault.

[2nd PLT]

My answer would involve a knife, and the target would be lower, and he might survive it.

Whoah, whoah, whoah, don't make me call the thought police on you for violent images.

Yeah assuming someones going to commit a crime when it becomes aware they want to commit a crime might not seem logical to you but if you fix the problem before it happens you bury alot less people.

That sounds very 1984

[The Master of Worlds]

Satania, I think you're missing the point. No one's asking you to be best buddies with pedophiles. They're simply asking why you seem to have an overwhelming desire to harm someone who may or may not have committed a crime, which is also illegal, by the way.

Point me to some hard evidence. I would be willing to bet that there is probably one closet pedophile who hasn't committed a crime for every one that has. Take the OP for this thread as an example. He and another poster apparently came from a boy love forum. I wonder how many members it has, and out of those, how many have committed crimes regarding sexual acts with children. It wouldn't be representative of larger society of course, but it would be a good start for some research.

I mean, I honestly agree with you on certain points. Those points being that I also think it's wrong, but somehow I don't feel the overwhelming urge to cause them harm...wait. Didn't you say that the overwhelming urge will eventually lead them to do such things? I think we have a pedo-beater here folks. Maybe he should be punished for a crime he may or may not commit?

[Galloism]

My answer would involve a knife, and the target would be lower, and he might survive it.

Whoah, whoah, whoah, don't make me call the thought police on you for violent images.

Yeah assuming someones going to commit a crime when it becomes aware they want to commit a crime might not seem logical to you but if you fix the problem before it happens you bury alot less people.

That sounds very 1984

Yeah, I made that reference 20 pages ago with my "this is double-plus ungood" comment.

[Des-Bal]

My answer would involve a knife, and the target would be lower, and he might survive it.

Whoah, whoah, whoah, don't make me call the thought police on you for violent images.

Yeah assuming someones going to commit a crime when it becomes aware they want to commit a crime might not seem logical to you but if you fix the problem before it happens you bury alot less people.

That sounds very 1984

NO ITS NOT NO ITS NOT NO ITS NOT!!!!!!
Jesus christ! Why is it everytime someone talks about preventing RAPE AND MURDER it becomes a massive invasion of privacy? If you attest a desire to commit a crime you should get help. When it seems like somethings going to happen you should prepare for it or better yet take steps to prevent it.