I'm probably going to alienate a lot of people but...

[The Golden Dragonfly]

topic is relevant to this discussion

I suspect most of the paedos on this thread were abused and molested as children themselves, although they may deny it

Geniunely, as far as I remember, I was not. I can't remember jack shit about my early childhood though. I don't really remember anything before I was 14ish, just tiny snippets.

Ok. You don't have a clear memory before you were aged 14. That there is a whole lot of repression. You are blocking out years of trauma because it is too painful for you conscious mind to recollect. This repression may be the source of all your inversions. We need to pull this all out and start unraveling things.

Let me approach the issue this way. What happened when you were 14? What were the significant events in your life that was unfolding at the time for you? In what way was this a transitional period for you and your family

Or, it could mean that I have a shit memory. Man, I can't remember what I did this day last week, let alone 15 years ago. When I say "before age 14" it doesn't mean I remember stuff, I just know what was going on, I remember more of it. I remember a general overview. I was at school, I was unhappy, I remember that I went to town at lunchtime in yr 11, stuff like this, I remember the overview of how things happened. Whereas before 14 I remember nothing, only tiny bits of random information, eg. completing a 4 peice jigsaw of a lion when I was very young (god knows why that's stuck there, but it has) or shouting down an echoey hallway in greece. I don't remember specific events outside of these random things, or indeed anything. After 14, around that age, I can actually remember the day to day things. I don't really think there were any major events at 14. Things were just going on like normal. My life is not full of drama. I also (very fondly) remember doing some stuff at a church sunday school, a bunch of kids were there is why. That continued until I was 19 and moved away. Though this is really irrelevant.

Have you considered your abuse theory may be flawed?

Its just a general hypothesis.

You mention that you were unhappy as a child. May I ask why? What was your relationship like with you parents? And also, did you have any younger siblings?

I view my parents as any normal people, I don't really love them unconditionally like you're supposed to and stuff, I've never felt it. They split when I was young (I don't remember when), so my dad has lived in england (I'm living with him atm when my mother kicked me out, for no good reason I might add), and I have lived with my mother for the past ten years, I won't say where in case anyone I know irl happens to come on this board, but not in the same country. My relationship with them has always been meh - strained. I do have a younger brother who I believe gets treated better than I do. My unhappiness did not have a one single cause, my life sucked (still does really). It's not the worst, I know, but it still wasn't much good. Though all of this is what I can recall, so after I already knew I was a pedo. I don't remember what the relationship was like before then or how I felt.

How much younger is your brother than you? Do you resent him for your parents preferential treatment? Have you ever molested him, or been inclined to do so? Are you sexually attracted to him?

[FreeSatania]

Someone please kill the pedos :S

That's either called trolling or flaming (I don't know which)
Not to mention, the police can use these as evidence.
Keep such things in your own head.

If it's his opinion I guess he should be allowed to post it. Though I think he only really should if he wishes to eplain his position, rather than just saying things like that.

My opinion is that pedophiles shouldn't be allowed to live, if this makes me a heartless bastard, then I'm very proud of being a heartless bastard.

But WHY? Why paedophiles as opposed to homosexuals or heterosexuals or any other category. Why do you believe we should be put to death over any other group?

Paedophilia is WRONG, it has always been wrong and will always be wrong.
It's for the best of all if pedophiles just, cease to exist.

Do you have any solid reasoning for this, or do you just believe it because that's what you've been taught to believe?

Every other human with a tiny bit of brains would agree with me.
Pedophiles are scum.

You're wrong, the majority of people I've met seem to disagree. They think we're ok as long as we don't do anything. Besides, that is not a logical argument. Just because the majority agrees with you (though I maintain they don't) does not make you right. Why should we be killed instead of homosexual people? Why should we lose our lives because of our sexual orientation? You understand that we are people just like anyone else? With lives just like you. And morals.

Sorry, but you're just not worth as much as us humans.

Do you consider this to be some sort of logical argument? You have to explain what is so bad about us that we "should be killed" and "are worth less". Please stop churning out what you've been told to feel, and actually THINK about it. What about us is so bad and worthless that we deserve death?

Nobody has TOLD me to feel this way about paedophiles. I just want you all to die.
There is something terribly wrong with you.

Hmmmm. Nice. Surely there are better ways than death?

Well if paedophiles want to be accepted for who they are, who's to judge me if I too secretly wish them all dead. I mean just because I fantasize about cutting off their heads and stuffing them up their anuses doesn't make me a bad person right? I mean it's not like I've *actually* cut off any paedophiles heads and stuffed them up their anuses.

I personally don't judge you for what you think, if you think that it's your opinion, as long as you never do it we have no issue. Do it to rapists by all means, but if you did it to a regular pedo we would have a problem.

However, my position is to try and get you to think about WHY you think this. What reasons do you have for wanting to cut my head off and shove it up my ass?

Simple. I hate you.

[Our L Lawliet]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

[FreeSatania]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

[Our L Lawliet]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

[FreeSatania]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

And you'd be a sick f'ck if all you ever fantasized about was rape. And if rape was the only thing that could get you off how could we trust you to not go through with it?

[Des-Bal]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

I do hate people that have rape fantasies their sick and twisted. Pedophilia is a lifestyle in the same sense arson is.

[Our L Lawliet]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

And you'd be a sick f'ck if all you ever fantasized about was rape. And if rape was the only thing that could get you off how could we trust you to not go through with it?

The same way we trust people who really like a cool car to not steal it?

[Des-Bal]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

And you'd be a sick f'ck if all you ever fantasized about was rape. And if rape was the only thing that could get you off how could we trust you to not go through with it?

The same way we trust people who really like a cool car to not steal it?

Do you lock your door?

[Our L Lawliet]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

I do hate people that have rape fantasies their sick and twisted.

Calling all thought police, we got a rape fantasy, over.

Pedophilia is a lifestyle in the same sense arson is.

Yeah, you're right, a crime is the same as sexual preference.

Hey, I recognize you from somewhere.

[Our L Lawliet]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

And you'd be a sick f'ck if all you ever fantasized about was rape. And if rape was the only thing that could get you off how could we trust you to not go through with it?

The same way we trust people who really like a cool car to not steal it?

Do you lock your door?

Do you presume anyone who likes my car will try to steal it?

[Des-Bal]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

I do hate people that have rape fantasies their sick and twisted.

Calling all thought police, we got a rape fantasy, over.

Pedophilia is a lifestyle in the same sense arson is.

Yeah, you're right, a crime is the same as sexual preference.

Hey, I recognize you from somewhere.

If your aroused by rape you should have your head examined.
Pathological arsonists are aroused by fire, they become excited when they burn things.

[Our L Lawliet]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

I do hate people that have rape fantasies their sick and twisted.

Calling all thought police, we got a rape fantasy, over.

Pedophilia is a lifestyle in the same sense arson is.

Yeah, you're right, a crime is the same as sexual preference.

Hey, I recognize you from somewhere.

If your aroused by rape you should have your head examined.

Next you'll be telling me that people who enjoy writing horror fiction need to be examined.

Pathological arsonists are aroused by fire, they become excited when they burn things.

Which is to say they'll commit a crime? Does not compute.

[Natapoc]

Next you'll be telling me that people who enjoy writing horror fiction need to be examined.

Yes. Absolutely, also the people who enjoy reading it.

[FreeSatania]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

I do hate people that have rape fantasies their sick and twisted.

Calling all thought police, we got a rape fantasy, over.

Pedophilia is a lifestyle in the same sense arson is.

Yeah, you're right, a crime is the same as sexual preference.

Hey, I recognize you from somewhere.

If your aroused by rape you should have your head examined.

Next you'll be telling me that people who enjoy writing horror fiction need to be examined.

Pathological arsonists are aroused by fire, they become excited when they burn things.

Which is to say they'll commit a crime? Does not compute.

Yeah usually they do actually. That's why their called arsonists.

[Our L Lawliet]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

I do hate people that have rape fantasies their sick and twisted.

Calling all thought police, we got a rape fantasy, over.

Pedophilia is a lifestyle in the same sense arson is.

Yeah, you're right, a crime is the same as sexual preference.

Hey, I recognize you from somewhere.

If your aroused by rape you should have your head examined.

Next you'll be telling me that people who enjoy writing horror fiction need to be examined.

Pathological arsonists are aroused by fire, they become excited when they burn things.

Which is to say they'll commit a crime? Does not compute.

Yeah usually they do actually. That's why their called arsonists.

His point was that pedophilia is comparable to the crime of arsony, and then implied that if burning things excite you then you will invariably commit arson. That's the point I was responding to.

[Des-Bal]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

I do hate people that have rape fantasies their sick and twisted.

Calling all thought police, we got a rape fantasy, over.

Pedophilia is a lifestyle in the same sense arson is.

Yeah, you're right, a crime is the same as sexual preference.

Hey, I recognize you from somewhere.

If your aroused by rape you should have your head examined.

Next you'll be telling me that people who enjoy writing horror fiction need to be examined.

Pathological arsonists are aroused by fire, they become excited when they burn things.

Which is to say they'll commit a crime? Does not compute.

Yes they should because if you can reach inside your head and pull out something horrible and evil theres probably something horrible and evil in your head. That might just be that don't have sex with children logic though.

Yes, having an overwhelming desire to commit a crime often means you'll commit a crime.

[FreeSatania]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

I do hate people that have rape fantasies their sick and twisted.

Calling all thought police, we got a rape fantasy, over.

Pedophilia is a lifestyle in the same sense arson is.

Yeah, you're right, a crime is the same as sexual preference.

Hey, I recognize you from somewhere.

If your aroused by rape you should have your head examined.

Next you'll be telling me that people who enjoy writing horror fiction need to be examined.

Pathological arsonists are aroused by fire, they become excited when they burn things.

Which is to say they'll commit a crime? Does not compute.

Yeah usually they do actually. That's why their called arsonists.

His point was that pedophilia is comparable to the crime of arsony, and then implied that if burning things excite you then you will invariably commit arson. That's the point I was responding to.

And paedophiles usually molest little kids ... eventually ... and they usually also find rationalizations to justify why it's ok too.

[Our L Lawliet]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

I do hate people that have rape fantasies their sick and twisted.

Calling all thought police, we got a rape fantasy, over.

Pedophilia is a lifestyle in the same sense arson is.

Yeah, you're right, a crime is the same as sexual preference.

Hey, I recognize you from somewhere.

If your aroused by rape you should have your head examined.

Next you'll be telling me that people who enjoy writing horror fiction need to be examined.

Pathological arsonists are aroused by fire, they become excited when they burn things.

Which is to say they'll commit a crime? Does not compute.

Yes they should because if you can reach inside your head and pull out something horrible and evil theres probably something horrible and evil in your head.

Yeah, art that isn't fluffy bunnies that portrays the dark sides of life needs to be rid of. The only things that should be expressed are love and smiles.

Yes, having an overwhelming desire to commit a crime often means you'll commit a crime.

Yes, but having an overwhelming desire to burn things does not. Though I can see what you're saying: if someone wants to touch a child, they will touch a child. Do you have any proof to back this up?

[Our L Lawliet]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

I do hate people that have rape fantasies their sick and twisted.

Calling all thought police, we got a rape fantasy, over.

Pedophilia is a lifestyle in the same sense arson is.

Yeah, you're right, a crime is the same as sexual preference.

Hey, I recognize you from somewhere.

If your aroused by rape you should have your head examined.

Next you'll be telling me that people who enjoy writing horror fiction need to be examined.

Pathological arsonists are aroused by fire, they become excited when they burn things.

Which is to say they'll commit a crime? Does not compute.

Yeah usually they do actually. That's why their called arsonists.

His point was that pedophilia is comparable to the crime of arsony, and then implied that if burning things excite you then you will invariably commit arson. That's the point I was responding to.

And paedophiles usually molest little kids ... eventually ... and they usually also find rationalizations to justify why it's ok too.

Do you have any studies or links you can direct me to that proves or supports your theory of every pedophile eventually raping a child?

[FreeSatania]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

I do hate people that have rape fantasies their sick and twisted.

Calling all thought police, we got a rape fantasy, over.

Pedophilia is a lifestyle in the same sense arson is.

Yeah, you're right, a crime is the same as sexual preference.

Hey, I recognize you from somewhere.

If your aroused by rape you should have your head examined.

Next you'll be telling me that people who enjoy writing horror fiction need to be examined.

Pathological arsonists are aroused by fire, they become excited when they burn things.

Which is to say they'll commit a crime? Does not compute.

Yeah usually they do actually. That's why their called arsonists.

His point was that pedophilia is comparable to the crime of arsony, and then implied that if burning things excite you then you will invariably commit arson. That's the point I was responding to.

And paedophiles usually molest little kids ... eventually ... and they usually also find rationalizations to justify why it's ok too.

Do you have any studies or links you can direct me to that proves or supports your theory of every pedophile eventually raping a child?

Well of the few paedophiles I've met all of them have molested kids. And growing up I've known a quite a few who were molested, most of them by family members.

[Des-Bal]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

Who cares how socially acceptable a certain thing is as long as one doesn't go through with it? That's like saying you hate people who like to have rape fantasies who would never actually rape anyone.

I do hate people that have rape fantasies their sick and twisted.

Calling all thought police, we got a rape fantasy, over.

Pedophilia is a lifestyle in the same sense arson is.

Yeah, you're right, a crime is the same as sexual preference.

Hey, I recognize you from somewhere.

If your aroused by rape you should have your head examined.

Next you'll be telling me that people who enjoy writing horror fiction need to be examined.

Pathological arsonists are aroused by fire, they become excited when they burn things.

Which is to say they'll commit a crime? Does not compute.

Yes they should because if you can reach inside your head and pull out something horrible and evil theres probably something horrible and evil in your head.

Yeah, art that isn't fluffy bunnies that portrays the dark sides of life needs to be rid of. The only things that should be expressed are love and smiles.

Yes, having an overwhelming desire to commit a crime often means you'll commit a crime.

Yes, but having an overwhelming desire to burn things does not. Though I can see what you're saying: if someone wants to touch a child, they will touch a child. Do you have any proof to back this up?

We don't need to get rid of it we just need to be aware there might be something SEVERELY WRONG. That way we wouldn't be surprised when poets go crazy or kill themselves.

Yes it does... If you really want to burn something you probably will. 95% of people that molest children are pedophiles. The other five are indiscriminants and I really think those should be counted.

[Vonnerz]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

ever? I suspect the ancient Greeks and the Spartans in particular would disagree. As well as the Romans...

[Natapoc]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

ever? I suspect the ancient Greeks and the Spartans in particular would disagree. As well as the Romans...

You suspect wrong (regarding the Greeks and Romans in general)

[Des-Bal]

Simple. I hate you.

And why do you hate him?

Because he's a paedophile. Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation it's a perversion, and there is nothing acceptable about it ever. We're talking about a person who can't get off without victimising a child. Don't *you* think that's sick?

ever? I suspect the ancient Greeks and the Spartans in particular would disagree. As well as the Romans...

Dead perverted civilization is both dead and perverted.