"Men Must Approve Abortion, Women Are Hosts"

[Wallenburg]

And lesbians? Then what?

I said "family."

I have some crazy news for you. Lesbians can raise families too.

[Finium]

While pregnant a woman has all the rights, ergo fathers and mothers are not considered equal under the law.

the man still has full control over his body.

But we're not really talking about his/her body, this is more of an issue with the genetically recombinated tumor that they could probably both copyright if they wanted.

[Knights of Columbia]

She should be imprisoned. Ironically enough, eliminating her genes from the pool would be the best solution.

Condescending, snarky gifs don't refute my answer.

[Walrusvylon]

I agree. Bodily sovereignty is not really a thing. It is not mentioned in the Bill of Rights anywhere.

There are many things that exist that are not in the Bill of Rights, so that's not saying much.

True.

[Ashmoria]

what recourse would you suggest when a woman gets an abortion anyway? what if she doesn't get an abortion but she also doesn't take good care of herself, theoretically putting the fetus in danger?

She should be imprisoned. Ironically enough, eliminating her genes from the pool would be the best solution.

prison? for not allowing the father a veto?

[Neutraligon]

Because they're being denied the opportunity to be a father, if that is what the father wants to be.



So, something you created that conveniently disproves my opinion?



A divorce perhaps, where the woman had an abortion and he did not want her to have one?



Where did I say we should make women slaves?



Bodily sovereignty falls flat given humans are routinely subjected to violations of bodily sovereignty without their consent.

I agree. Bodily sovereignty is not really a thing. It is not mentioned in the Bill of Rights anywhere.

English common law is a thing. It is the basis for our system of laws.

[Wallenburg]

oh yes it would be SOOO Much better to have those babies DIE rather than have a way for women to hand over babies safely then sort it all out later.

Then you admit children do not have a right to support from both parents.

If you do not have the strength of your convictions, you should abandon them.

I thought you were against mandatory child support from absent fathers?

[Lady Scylla]

She should be imprisoned. Ironically enough, eliminating her genes from the pool would be the best solution.

Yer a troll

You're, relatively, new. Trollnaming is against the rules, mind. Let's not.

[Knights of Columbia]

I said "family."

I have some crazy news for you. Lesbians can raise families too.

I don't believe so. Not in the traditional sense, anyway.

[Ashmoria]

She should be imprisoned. Ironically enough, eliminating her genes from the pool would be the best solution.

Yer a troll

pssst

calling people trolls isn't allowed here. if you think someone is trolling you have to report it in moderation and they will deal with it.

[Walrusvylon]

Alright then, men still produce 1500 sperm a second.

With less than 10 calories, if that many.

For your claims of it being costly, the human body is extremely efficient at what it does.

Source?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I said "family."

And we can't have a family?

Apparently being raised by a lesbian couple doesn't count as a "family".

Boy, I wonder what they think about single-parent family units.

[Lady Scylla]

Condescending, snarky gifs don't refute my answer.

But they do reflect the facial gymnastics I had.

[Utceforp]

She should be imprisoned. Ironically enough, eliminating her genes from the pool would be the best solution.

prison? for not allowing the father a veto?

Condescending, snarky gifs don't refute my answer.

But they do reflect the facial gymnastics I had.

Look at the guy's flag and name - he's clearly some variety of Fascist. (Or a Fascist in denial.)

There's no point in engaging him, just ignore him.

[Walrusvylon]

Yer a troll

pssst

calling people trolls isn't allowed here. if you think someone is trolling you have to report it in moderation and they will deal with it.

Thank you.

[Ashmoria]

the man still has full control over his body.

But we're not really talking about his/her body, this is more of an issue with the genetically recombinated tumor that they could probably both copyright if they wanted.

yes we are.

a woman has the right to control her own body and make her own medical decisions.

[Neutraligon]

I have some crazy news for you. Lesbians can raise families too.

I don't believe so. Not in the traditional sense, anyway.

Why does the traditional sense matter. How does two women living together as a married couple prevent them from having a family?

[FelrikTheDeleted]

I have some crazy news for you. Lesbians can raise families too.

I don't believe so. Not in the traditional sense, anyway.

The traditional sense? I presume you are referring to the nuclear family model. If so, the traditional model isn't necessarily the best model nor the worst. The same could be said for a family in which isn't traditional.

[Knights of Columbia]

She should be imprisoned. Ironically enough, eliminating her genes from the pool would be the best solution.

Yer a troll

Just because my beliefs make you angry doesn't mean I'm doing it on purpose.

[Wallenburg]

I have some crazy news for you. Lesbians can raise families too.

I don't believe so. Not in the traditional sense, anyway.

You can believe the Earth is flat and that moss always grows toward civilization for all I care. It doesn't change the facts.

[Walrusvylon]

I don't believe so. Not in the traditional sense, anyway.

Why does the traditional sense matter. How does two women living together as a married couple prevent them from having a family?

It depends on how you define family.

[Galloism]

Then you admit children do not have a right to support from both parents.

If you do not have the strength of your convictions, you should abandon them.

pffft

I am not so rigid that I would let babies die instead of allowing a compassionate law to exist that can save lives.

Then you should support parental relinquishment for both genders - to save lives.

Babies are killed every year by parents who cannot either mentally or financially support their children and have no choice.

It is blatantly hypocritical to support parental relinquishment that in practice can only be used by parents of your preferred gender, in the same way poll tests with grandfather clauses were pure hypocrisy.

[Costa Fierro]

You do not live on Earth, do you?

No. I live on Mars, where men apparently come from.

You literally said that "men have the right to dictate a woman's medical decisions to her".

Show me in writing where I said that. Actually show me the quote where I said "women have the right to dictate a woman's medical decisions to her". I know that someone else asked me a question along those lines to me in an earlier post. Perhaps you got confused?

Really? When?

Genital mutilation happening to both girls and boys. Kinda off topic but it's hard to justify bodily sovereignty given that both young girls and boys are subject to things they cannot consent to.

[Finium]

But we're not really talking about his/her body, this is more of an issue with the genetically recombinated tumor that they could probably both copyright if they wanted.

yes we are.

a woman has the right to control her own body and make her own medical decisions.

Well, as long as the women buys out the other half of the genes before she liquidates, I suppose it's fine.

[Knights of Columbia]

I don't believe so. Not in the traditional sense, anyway.

The traditional sense? I presume you are referring to the nuclear family model. If so, the traditional model isn't necessarily the best model nor is it the worst.

The traditional as in father, mother, children. It's nature's best model for the production and rearing of offspring.