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Postby Cymrea » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:53 pm

Brkelgarozed wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well it's definitely not WND. Never heard of western journalism, and the daily caller is a peice of shit.

Just because the liberal media does not talk about it does not mean it's wrong

Someone posted this pertaining to sources and their biases/leanings. Hopefully it helps here a bit.
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Postby Cymrea » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:54 pm

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Free Tristania wrote:
Let's think of bowl of Smarties, shall we ? Now imagine that one out of ten is laced with cyanide. Would you be willing to take one ?


This Skittles/m&m's/smarties "one rotten apple spoils the bunch" analogy needs to end. I'm so sick of it.

And one out of ten is a gross exaggeration.
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Postby Uiiop » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:54 pm

Cymrea wrote:
Brkelgarozed wrote:Just because the liberal media does not talk about it does not mean it's wrong

Someone posted this pertaining to sources and their biases/leanings. Hopefully it helps here a bit.

:/ not a big fan of the design.
While i might not change the ratings it's too horseshoey for me.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:58 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Cymrea wrote:Someone posted this pertaining to sources and their biases/leanings. Hopefully it helps here a bit.

:/ not a big fan of the design.
While i might not change the ratings it's too horseshoey for me.

this one is better
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:58 pm

Cymrea wrote:
Catochristoferson wrote:
This Skittles/m&m's/smarties "one rotten apple spoils the bunch" analogy needs to end. I'm so sick of it.

And one out of ten is a gross exaggeration.


What's the acceptable level of poison smarties for you to take a handful.
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Postby USS Monitor » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:01 pm

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Mavorpen wrote:If anything, the Berkeley incident shows that professional trolls should really learn to realize that trolling in real life is not a good idea.

Indeed: it has turned against the Left and now even moderates see them for what they are: terrorists. I can assure you that you have already lost the 2020 elections.


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Postby Uiiop » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:06 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Uiiop wrote::/ not a big fan of the design.
While i might not change the ratings it's too horseshoey for me.

this one is better

Not what i meant.
To elaborate my problem is my annoyance with horseshoe theory makes it so it took a bit to notice the difference between "Amount of bias" and "Leaning of bias away from center".
I'm not exactly sure yet there's a difference on those graphs.
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Postby Cymrea » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:08 pm

Telconi wrote:
Cymrea wrote:And one out of ten is a gross exaggeration.


What's the acceptable level of poison smarties for you to take a handful.

One that realistically represents the number of [insert scaremongering du jour] against the rest of the 320 million Americans.
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Postby Brannenstan » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:09 pm

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Free Tristania wrote:Indeed: it has turned against the Left and now even moderates see them for what they are: terrorists. I can assure you that you have already lost the 2020 elections.


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A few of your posts in this thread are borderline, but calling "the Left" terrorists is what put you over the line and got you warned.


I think you missed the context, moderator. The action of the Berkeley protesters, who all agree are extremists, are terroristic and those actions are being associated with the left. With all due respect, this is an argument, not trolling.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:14 pm

Uiiop wrote:

Not what i meant.
To elaborate my problem is my annoyance with horseshoe theory makes it so it took a bit to notice the difference between "Amount of bias" and "Leaning of bias away from center".
I'm not exactly sure yet there's a difference on those graphs.

I just like the look of one I posted
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:15 pm

Brannenstan wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
[warn]Warned for trolling[warn]

A few of your posts in this thread are borderline, but calling "the Left" terrorists is what put you over the line and got you warned.


I think you missed the context, moderator. The action of the Berkeley protesters, who all agree are extremists, are terroristic and those actions are being associated with the left. With all due respect, this is an argument, not trolling.

That can be argued in Moderation not here
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Postby Cymrea » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:16 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Brannenstan wrote:
I think you missed the context, moderator. The action of the Berkeley protesters, who all agree are extremists, are terroristic and those actions are being associated with the left. With all due respect, this is an argument, not trolling.

That can be argued in Moderation not here

Third-party appeals aren't allowed either, IIRC.
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Who wants to go place whites on a cross and Burn them?
It'll be the next thing that becomes socially acceptable in America!
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:19 pm

Zhopgrad wrote:Who wants to go place whites on a cross and Burn them?
It'll be the next thing that becomes socially acceptable in America!

This lady is in Canada, unless something happened in the last 48 hours Canada isn't American
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:20 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Zhopgrad wrote:Who wants to go place whites on a cross and Burn them?
It'll be the next thing that becomes socially acceptable in America!

This lady is in Canada, unless something happened in the last 48 hours Canada isn't American

Shh, don't let the Canadians find out.
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Postby Cymrea » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:22 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:This lady is in Canada, unless something happened in the last 48 hours Canada isn't American

Shh, don't let the Canadians find out.

Toronto really really wants to be New York, though. :P
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:31 pm

Cymrea wrote:
Telconi wrote:
What's the acceptable level of poison smarties for you to take a handful.

One that realistically represents the number of [insert scaremongering du jour] against the rest of the 320 million Americans.


I think you misunderstood. Regardless of what ratio is in fact realistic, I ask what is your personal breaking point. At what concentration does the individual spoil the collective? If 1/100 BLM members were racial supremacists, would you disavow the organization as a whole? 1/1,000? 1/100,000? Etc.
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Postby Rodez » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:31 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Uiiop wrote::/ not a big fan of the design.
While i might not change the ratings it's too horseshoey for me.

this one is better

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Postby Cymrea » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:38 pm

Telconi wrote:
Cymrea wrote:One that realistically represents the number of [insert scaremongering du jour] against the rest of the 320 million Americans.


I think you misunderstood. Regardless of what ratio is in fact realistic, I ask what is your personal breaking point. At what concentration does the individual spoil the collective? If 1/100 BLM members were racial supremacists, would you disavow the organization as a whole? 1/1,000? 1/100,000? Etc.

The poisoned Skittles reference was in the context of immigrants being terrorists, originally, and made barely any sense to begin with. Further I think such a simplistic meme fails to account for the complexity of the issues regarding BLM, immigration, terrorism, et cetera.

My personal threshold would require a great deal more information than a largely arbitrary number of candies. In the particular context of BLM, it's difficult to answer because BLM is not well defined at all. What definition of BLM would we be debating?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:46 pm

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Brannenstan wrote:
I think you missed the context, moderator. The action of the Berkeley protesters, who all agree are extremists, are terroristic and those actions are being associated with the left. With all due respect, this is an argument, not trolling.

That can be argued in Moderation not here


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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:49 pm

Cymrea wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I think you misunderstood. Regardless of what ratio is in fact realistic, I ask what is your personal breaking point. At what concentration does the individual spoil the collective? If 1/100 BLM members were racial supremacists, would you disavow the organization as a whole? 1/1,000? 1/100,000? Etc.

The poisoned Skittles reference was in the context of immigrants being terrorists, originally, and made barely any sense to begin with. Further I think such a simplistic meme fails to account for the complexity of the issues regarding BLM, immigration, terrorism, et cetera.

My personal threshold would require a great deal more information than a largely arbitrary number of candies. In the particular context of BLM, it's difficult to answer because BLM is not well defined at all. What definition of BLM would we be debating?


For the sake of this example let us define "BLM" as anyone who publicly decares loyalty or membership to Black Lives Matter or a local division/chapter of Black Lives Matter. As for the various issues at play, those are relevant, but must be weighed and measured by you.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:51 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:No it isn't the "actual tidal wave" of the left. Also why the fuck do you capitalize the "L"? Most of those are from shity blogs and shity newspapers that shouldn't be called news, and the New Yorker is mostly satire.

1. It very much is. And we have seen this again and again in all the liberal media. Hell even CNN joins in the chorus.

2. This is why.

Let's be frank here: the Left is demonising an entire race of people.

Spoiler alert, the majority of people who would consider themselves "left" are white.
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Postby Zhopgrad » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:52 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Zhopgrad wrote:Who wants to go place whites on a cross and Burn them?
It'll be the next thing that becomes socially acceptable in America!

This lady is in Canada, unless something happened in the last 48 hours Canada isn't American

Well in that case, North America.
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Postby UCE Watchdog of the Puppets » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:53 pm

Telconi wrote:
Cymrea wrote:The poisoned Skittles reference was in the context of immigrants being terrorists, originally, and made barely any sense to begin with. Further I think such a simplistic meme fails to account for the complexity of the issues regarding BLM, immigration, terrorism, et cetera.

My personal threshold would require a great deal more information than a largely arbitrary number of candies. In the particular context of BLM, it's difficult to answer because BLM is not well defined at all. What definition of BLM would we be debating?


For the sake of this example let us define "BLM" as anyone who publicly decares loyalty or membership to Black Lives Matter or a local division/chapter of Black Lives Matter. As for the various issues at play, those are relevant, but must be weighed and measured by you.

BLM is a worthless brand name.
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Free Tristania wrote:1. It very much is. And we have seen this again and again in all the liberal media. Hell even CNN joins in the chorus.

2. This is why.

Let's be frank here: the Left is demonising an entire race of people.

Spoiler alert, the majority of people who would consider themselves "left" are white.

Then they're self-hating Leftist whites. :rofl: :roll:
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