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Postby Galloism » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:30 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
Galloism wrote:I've observed a few myself, and I don't think I've ever heard anyone correlate melanin with "cosmic intelligence."

Like... ever.


I mean the racism, not the crazy pseudo-science.

I feel like pseudo-science was just insulted as a field.

In any case, not noticed a lot of racism. A little, sure, but nothing compared to say... the white house.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:30 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Well she is a fucking racist wacko.

Melanin directly communicates with cosmic energy


... what? The fuck does that even mean?


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Postby The Lone Alliance » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:33 pm

Italios wrote:This is wrong, she is wrong. Another bad nut in the BLM movement who needs to be removed from her place of power. I hope her and people with similar opinions like this realise they're totally undermining the legitimacy of the movement and turning people away from, not to, BLM.

It never had legitimacy because it's name was never accurate.

It should have been rightfully called "Black Criminal lives matter" or maybe more accurately "Criminal Lives Matter".

If BLM was truly about all lives they'd complain about Black people dying from almost everything, not black criminals getting killed by cops.
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Postby Seangoli » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:34 pm

Galloism wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:“Melanin enables black skin to capture light and hold it in its memory mode which reveals that blackness converts light into knowledge. Melanin directly communicates with cosmic energy,” she added.

This is so absurd that either this is made up or drugs are somehow involved.


There are some truly absurd and revolting notions that exist on the radical end of the Black pride spectrum. There are the Black Israelites for instance, whom believe they are the "real" descendants of Israel and that what the world calls "jews" today are nothing more than white people trying to steal the real black history (And go so far as to see nothing wrong with what Hitler did, as it was not racist due to him killing off other white people).

This notion stems from Elijah Muhammad's belief that white people are an evil offshoot race of black people and thus are inferior. There is some details added by some involving an ancient civilization that existed where a traitor "created" white people through genetic experimentation as a thrall race to perform manual labor and be a personal army, which then revolted and brought down the African empire and brutally subjugated black people for thousands of years through brute force.

It's just as absurd as the notions running around the late 1800's in Europe about the suppose lack of intelligence that Africans had. It's all nonsense spouted and supported by some truly vile people who haven't the foggiest idea what they are talking about.

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Postby Iridencia » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:37 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Not seeing a whole lot of racism in those photos. Violence, maybe. But devoid of context they could be from anywhere.


Then you can quite literally just type in "BLM racism" on YouTube and get hundreds of sample videos.


To give one.

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Postby Summah » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:37 pm

Vassenor wrote:So it's another one of these "this thing one person associated with a movement I dislike said a thing ergo everyone in the movement thinks the same way because reasons" posts?

Seems like it. I wouldn't support this kind of rhetoric but hey, it wouldn't be the first time a positive movement was high-jacked.

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Postby Uiiop » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:38 pm

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Uiiop wrote:Nvm i figured out the problem.
Stupid ass article didn't get the name right
http://janayakhan.com/black-lives-matter/
...wait but that wasn't what the screen shot said hmm....

Supposedly Yusra Khogali and Yusra Ali/ Yusra K.Ali all refer to the same person from what I can tell.

That maybe the case. never heard of a shortening of a last name like that before however but other articles corroborate her standing within BLM.
Still doesn't explain how the only Facebook account i could find was something different that couldn't have been where the text was posted. That and the lack of blue on her name..., likes not including any ones names, no mention of comment numbers, and indents where facebook doesn't usually have them.

Maybe this could be explained by the fact it happen within a group and when you're signed but i wouldn't know.
I'm not sure you can change fonts like that also.
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Postby Tananat » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:39 pm

PaNTuXIa wrote:The MSM will refuse to cover this,

I mean, its been called out on the left wing HuffPo, The conservative tabloid Toronto Sun has called for BLTTO to be "banished", the News Corp owned Heat Street have done a piece on it, Mediaite did one (owned by ABC's Dan Abrams), CNN Anchor Jake Tapper tweeted a link to the Toronto Sun story.

How much coverage does there need to be before something is... covered?

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Postby Alvecia » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:41 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Supposedly Yusra Khogali and Yusra Ali/ Yusra K.Ali all refer to the same person from what I can tell.

That maybe the case. never heard of a shortening of a last name like that before however but other articles corroborate her standing within BLM.
Still doesn't explain how the only Facebook account i could find was something different that couldn't have been where the text was posted. That and the lack of blue on her name..., likes not including any ones names, and no mention of comment numbers.

Maybe this could be explained by the fact it happen within a group and when you're signed but i wouldn't know.
I'm not sure you can change fonts like that also.

I imagine there'd be some private stuff.
Also it's highly likely she deleted the actual post.
If comments on her posts are anything to go by, other people certainly think it's her

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Postby Iridencia » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:41 pm

Summah wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So it's another one of these "this thing one person associated with a movement I dislike said a thing ergo everyone in the movement thinks the same way because reasons" posts?

Seems like it. I wouldn't support this kind of rhetoric but hey, it wouldn't be the first time a positive movement was high-jacked.


Exactly how many "one person"s need to be pointed out before it becomes even a possibility that this is actually a wider problem?

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:42 pm

Galloism wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:“Melanin enables black skin to capture light and hold it in its memory mode which reveals that blackness converts light into knowledge. Melanin directly communicates with cosmic energy,” she added.

This is so absurd that either this is made up or drugs are somehow involved.

Drugs are almost certainly involved. Melanin is not "cosmic energy".
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Postby Equestria and Griffon » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:44 pm

That melanin segment. That is anything from hilarious. I mean,it was probably made on drugs.
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Postby Uiiop » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:44 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Uiiop wrote:That maybe the case. never heard of a shortening of a last name like that before however but other articles corroborate her standing within BLM.
Still doesn't explain how the only Facebook account i could find was something different that couldn't have been where the text was posted. That and the lack of blue on her name..., likes not including any ones names, and no mention of comment numbers.

Maybe this could be explained by the fact it happen within a group and when you're signed but i wouldn't know.
I'm not sure you can change fonts like that also.

I imagine there'd be some private stuff.
Also it's highly likely she deleted the actual post.
If comments on her posts are anything to go by, other people certainly think it's her

That'll explain the account issue (Though it'll have to be a separate account since i don't think you can delete avatar changes) but it doesn't quite explain the funky shit in the screenshot.
And other people by themselves are hardly a good measuring stick.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:45 pm

Seangoli wrote:
Galloism wrote:This is so absurd that either this is made up or drugs are somehow involved.


There are some truly absurd and revolting notions that exist on the radical end of the Black pride spectrum. There are the Black Israelites for instance, whom believe they are the "real" descendants of Israel and that what the world calls "jews" today are nothing more than white people trying to steal the real black history (And go so far as to see nothing wrong with what Hitler did, as it was not racist due to him killing off other white people).

This notion stems from Elijah Muhammad's belief that white people are an evil offshoot race of black people and thus are inferior. There is some details added by some involving an ancient civilization that existed where a traitor "created" white people through genetic experimentation as a thrall race to perform manual labor and be a personal army, which then revolted and brought down the African empire and brutally subjugated black people for thousands of years through brute force.

It's just as absurd as the notions running around the late 1800's in Europe about the suppose lack of intelligence that Africans had. It's all nonsense spouted and supported by some truly vile people who haven't the foggiest idea what they are talking about.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:46 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Italios wrote:This is wrong, she is wrong. Another bad nut in the BLM movement who needs to be removed from her place of power. I hope her and people with similar opinions like this realise they're totally undermining the legitimacy of the movement and turning people away from, not to, BLM.

It never had legitimacy because it's name was never accurate.

It should have been rightfully called "Black Criminal lives matter" or maybe more accurately "Criminal Lives Matter".

If BLM was truly about all lives they'd complain about Black people dying from almost everything, not black criminals getting killed by cops.


And here we go with the whataboutism again.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:47 pm

Galloism wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:“Melanin enables black skin to capture light and hold it in its memory mode which reveals that blackness converts light into knowledge. Melanin directly communicates with cosmic energy,” she added.

This is so absurd that either this is made up or drugs are somehow involved.

It's gotta be true. How else would a slave like Kunta Kinte know so much about literature?
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:47 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
Perhaps I'm being a bit overly touchy.

But really, this movement does not deserve to be defended. They are overwhelmingly racist and pro-violence.

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Not seeing a whole lot of racism in those photos. Violence, maybe. But devoid of context they could be from anywhere.

The pictures are from Ferguson. It is very obvious at this point what happened in Ferguson, and why.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:50 pm

Iridencia wrote:
Summah wrote:Seems like it. I wouldn't support this kind of rhetoric but hey, it wouldn't be the first time a positive movement was high-jacked.


Exactly how many "one person"s need to be pointed out before it becomes even a possibility that this is actually a wider problem?
Because if you go to literally any mass gathering ever you can pick and choose from every sort of wingnut and moonbat at ones pleasure, and then throw a spin on it for ones publishers.
What do you think fox is doing when they cover protests and interview the kids dressed up as red army soldiers, or when vice shows up to something right wing?

Actually, to Vice's credit, they did have a reporter who went to an MRA gathering and said something along the lines of "even though there's scumbags here, most of the guys here are decent people, just a bit confused over how things are going for them." But their video coverage is way different from their print coverage.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:51 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Alvecia wrote:I imagine there'd be some private stuff.
Also it's highly likely she deleted the actual post.
If comments on her posts are anything to go by, other people certainly think it's her

That'll explain the account issue (Though it'll have to be a separate account since i don't think you can delete avatar changes) but it doesn't quite explain the funky shit in the screenshot.
And other people by themselves are hardly a good measuring stick.

Granted. I won't reject out of hand that this is just made up. But the longer she stays silent, the more likely I'll consider it.

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Postby Seangoli » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:51 pm

Galloism wrote:
Seangoli wrote:
There are some truly absurd and revolting notions that exist on the radical end of the Black pride spectrum. There are the Black Israelites for instance, whom believe they are the "real" descendants of Israel and that what the world calls "jews" today are nothing more than white people trying to steal the real black history (And go so far as to see nothing wrong with what Hitler did, as it was not racist due to him killing off other white people).

This notion stems from Elijah Muhammad's belief that white people are an evil offshoot race of black people and thus are inferior. There is some details added by some involving an ancient civilization that existed where a traitor "created" white people through genetic experimentation as a thrall race to perform manual labor and be a personal army, which then revolted and brought down the African empire and brutally subjugated black people for thousands of years through brute force.

It's just as absurd as the notions running around the late 1800's in Europe about the suppose lack of intelligence that Africans had. It's all nonsense spouted and supported by some truly vile people who haven't the foggiest idea what they are talking about.

I learn so much from Nationstates.


Took some digging, but here's the wiki that provides more details. It's truly a bizarre story, to say the least.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam)

Edit: Apparently Gorillas were white people who tried to become black again. Neat.
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Postby Kollin » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:52 pm

Choson wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:But really, this movement does not deserve to be defended. They are overwhelmingly racist and pro-violence.


Kind of like the police...

Except for the parts about how most police officers of most departments aren't racist and are at worst, improperly trained. Still bad, but no as much.

Meanwhile, the majority of BLM protests come with mass assaults, looting, vandalism, and general rioting free of charge after 3 easy payments of your Common Sense, Human Rights, and your life!

It's weird how a puuuuuuuuuny fraction, minute percentile of police incidents could describe what you said, but how the majority of BLM incidents describe what i said, don't you think?
Maybe, just a little weird? Come on now.

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:52 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:It never had legitimacy because it's name was never accurate.

It should have been rightfully called "Black Criminal lives matter" or maybe more accurately "Criminal Lives Matter".

If BLM was truly about all lives they'd complain about Black people dying from almost everything, not black criminals getting killed by cops.


And here we go with the whataboutism again.

It's not whataboutism but literalism instead.
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Postby Iridencia » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:53 pm

Kubra wrote:
Iridencia wrote:
Exactly how many "one person"s need to be pointed out before it becomes even a possibility that this is actually a wider problem?
Because if you go to literally any mass gathering ever you can pick and choose from every sort of wingnut and moonbat at ones pleasure, and then throw a spin on it for ones publishers.
What do you think fox is doing when they cover protests and interview the kids dressed up as red army soldiers, or when vice shows up to something right wing?

Actually, to Vice's credit, they did have a reporter who went to an MRA gathering and said something along the lines of "even though there's scumbags here, most of the guys here are decent people, just a bit confused over how things are going for them." But their video coverage is way different from their print coverage.


Everybody knows that. It also doesn't answer the question.

How do you decide between whether or not the movement is being unfairly cherrypicked or if the movement actually has a problem?

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:53 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And here we go with the whataboutism again.

It's not whataboutism but literalism instead.


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Postby Gravlen » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:54 pm

Tananat wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:The MSM will refuse to cover this,

I mean, its been called out on the left wing HuffPo, The conservative tabloid Toronto Sun has called for BLTTO to be "banished", the News Corp owned Heat Street have done a piece on it, Mediaite did one (owned by ABC's Dan Abrams), CNN Anchor Jake Tapper tweeted a link to the Toronto Sun story.

How much coverage does there need to be before something is... covered?

Pfft, you need much, much more than that. Has it been covered by Horse & Hound magazine yet?
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