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Postby Transoxthraxia » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:57 am

Alvecia wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:I doubt there will be any real backlash

Meanwhile the entire right wing and a good portion of the left have a collective apoplectic fit

Will there be consequences? Will we see BLM be de-legitimized as the racist, discriminatory, inflammatory organization it really is?

No, probably not.
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Postby Community Values » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:57 am

Alvecia wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:I doubt there will be any real backlash

Meanwhile the entire right wing and a good portion of the left have a collective apoplectic fit

I mean, saying that whites are subhuman is pretty rude. Just doesn't deserve coverage like this.
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Postby The One True Benxboro Empire » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:58 am

Alvecia wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:I doubt there will be any real backlash

Meanwhile the entire right wing and a good portion of the left have a collective apoplectic fit

It doesn't matter since they all think of themselves as victims who are ignored by everyone.
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Postby Aethrys » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:58 am

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Not seeing any mentions of BLM in the second one.


"Revenge killings". He was motivated by recent police shootings. BLM undeniably stirs up anger over shooting incidents,regardless of their justification. A debatable portion outright calls for police to be murdered.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:58 am

Living up to their reputation I see.
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:58 am

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Meanwhile the entire right wing and a good portion of the left have a collective apoplectic fit

Will there be consequences? Will we see BLM be de-legitimized as the racist, discriminatory, inflammatory organization it really is?

What's BLM as an org got to do with this one person?

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Postby Community Values » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:58 am

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Meanwhile the entire right wing and a good portion of the left have a collective apoplectic fit

Will there be consequences? Will we see BLM be de-legitimized as the racist, discriminatory, inflammatory organization it really is?

No, probably not.


I think most Republicans view the organization as racist, discriminatory, and inflammatory.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:59 am

Community Values wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Will there be consequences? Will we see BLM be de-legitimized as the racist, discriminatory, inflammatory organization it really is?

No, probably not.


I think most Republicans view the organization as racist, discriminatory, and inflammatory.

But they did months ago regardless.
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In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:00 am

Alvecia wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Will there be consequences? Will we see BLM be de-legitimized as the racist, discriminatory, inflammatory organization it really is?

What's BLM as an org got to do with this one person?

muh not all

leadership is representative of the collective whether you like it or not.
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In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Community Values » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:00 am

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Community Values wrote:
I think most Republicans view the organization as racist, discriminatory, and inflammatory.

But they did months ago regardless.

And? Your goal is already achieved. It is de-legitimized by a lot of people. What now, you want it branded as a terrorist organization?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:01 am

Community Values wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Will there be consequences? Will we see BLM be de-legitimized as the racist, discriminatory, inflammatory organization it really is?

No, probably not.


I think most Republicans view the organization as racist, discriminatory, and inflammatory.


While stirring up the same views in their own base. :roll:
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Postby The One True Benxboro Empire » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:02 am

Community Values wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:But they did months ago regardless.

And? Your goal is already achieved. It is de-legitimized by a lot of people. What now, you want it branded as a terrorist organization?

That would fit with the victimization narrative.
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Postby Community Values » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:02 am

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:What's BLM as an org got to do with this one person?

muh not all

leadership is representative of the collective whether you like it or not.


This is the co-founder of the Toronto BLM. She represents a portion of the Toronto BLM, muh not all is pretty justified in this case.

Now, if you had some sources that showed that BLM viewed less of either the state, police, or whites, you might have a point.
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Postby The United Dark Republic » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:04 am

The United Dark Republic wrote:I am as skeptical of the police as much as the next guy, but BLM incites violence. It's a shame that a better organization couldn't stand up for not only their community, but every single race. Police oppressing select people isn't secluded to just one sole race. It happens everywhere.

To their defense though, a sizable portion of officers are reasonable and fair. So we have to be careful to not use too broad of a brush, but BLM has really put me into a corner where I've literally got to defend the police because brutality against police has substantially increased. Violence and death isn't the answer here. Period.
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:04 am

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:What's BLM as an org got to do with this one person?

muh not all

leadership is representative of the collective whether you like it or not.

Hardly.

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Postby Hevern » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:06 am

The United Dark Republic wrote:I am as skeptical of the police as much as the next guy, but BLM incites violence. It's a shame that a better organization couldn't stand up for not only their community, but every single race. Police oppressing select people isn't secluded to just one sole race. It happens everywhere.

To their defense though, a sizable portion of officers are reasonable and fair. So we have to be careful to not use too broad of a brush, but BLM has really put me into a corner where I've literally got to defend the police because brutality against police has substantially increased. Violence and death isn't the answer here. Period.

Well put :clap:

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Postby Aethrys » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:08 am

Community Values wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:muh not all

leadership is representative of the collective whether you like it or not.


This is the co-founder of the Toronto BLM. She represents a portion of the Toronto BLM, muh not all is pretty justified in this case.

Now, if you had some sources that showed that BLM viewed less of either the state, police, or whites, you might have a point.


I mean, BLM is frequently looking to get police killed whenever they can. I'd assume they have a lessened view point of them, what with wanting to kill them and all. And then there's the way that they really only care about police involved shootings if the deceased is black, and if so care only about that fact, circumstances surrounding it be damned. (Like the guy that was shot while strangling a cop through his cruiser window, or the one that had three different angles showing him pointing a gun at police, those were all worthy of BLM's outrage)
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:09 am

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:What's BLM as an org got to do with this one person?

muh not all

leadership is representative of the collective whether you like it or not.


So we can judge Trump supporters based on Bannon and Spencer then?
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:09 am

Wow, this thread is a dumpster fire.

Anyway, my opinion is that she's terrible and Toronto BLM is terrible, too. Not thinking highly of the rest of the movement, either, for various reasons.

Does this count as "hate propaganda", given that it's using the most alternate Alternate Facts I've seen this year? She's insinuating genocide, which might be iffy under Canadian law.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:10 am

The United Dark Republic wrote:I am as skeptical of the police as much as the next guy, but BLM incites violence. It's a shame that a better organization couldn't stand up for not only their community, but every single race. Police oppressing select people isn't secluded to just one sole race. It happens everywhere.

To their defense though, a sizable portion of officers are reasonable and fair. So we have to be careful to not use too broad of a brush, but BLM has really put me into a corner where I've literally got to defend the police because brutality against police has substantially increased. Violence and death isn't the answer here. Period.


Bring back Martin Luther King/Mandela when?
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Postby The One True Benxboro Empire » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:10 am

Vassenor wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:muh not all

leadership is representative of the collective whether you like it or not.


So we can judge Trump supporters based on Bannon and Spencer then?

Yes, but we'll all be enemies of the people and terrorists for doing so.
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Postby The One True Benxboro Empire » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:10 am

Salus Maior wrote:
The United Dark Republic wrote:I am as skeptical of the police as much as the next guy, but BLM incites violence. It's a shame that a better organization couldn't stand up for not only their community, but every single race. Police oppressing select people isn't secluded to just one sole race. It happens everywhere.

To their defense though, a sizable portion of officers are reasonable and fair. So we have to be careful to not use too broad of a brush, but BLM has really put me into a corner where I've literally got to defend the police because brutality against police has substantially increased. Violence and death isn't the answer here. Period.


Bring back Martin Luther King/Mandela when?

Forever.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:10 am

Proctopeo wrote:Wow, this thread is a dumpster fire.

Anyway, my opinion is that she's terrible and Toronto BLM is terrible, too. Not thinking highly of the rest of the movement, either, for various reasons.

Does this count as "hate propaganda", given that it's using the most alternate Alternate Facts I've seen this year? She's insinuating genocide, which might be iffy under Canadian law.


It's hate propaganda because it's literally racial supremacism. Doesn't matter that the subject is white people.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:14 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Wow, this thread is a dumpster fire.

Anyway, my opinion is that she's terrible and Toronto BLM is terrible, too. Not thinking highly of the rest of the movement, either, for various reasons.

Does this count as "hate propaganda", given that it's using the most alternate Alternate Facts I've seen this year? She's insinuating genocide, which might be iffy under Canadian law.


It's hate propaganda because it's literally racial supremacism. Doesn't matter that the subject is white people.

I don't understand Canadian law very well. I wasn't factoring race into this at all, besides "targeting another one"
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:15 am

Vassenor wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:muh not all

leadership is representative of the collective whether you like it or not.


So we can judge Trump supporters based on Bannon and Spencer then?


You can and should judge Spencer's followers based on Spencer, but the Republican party is hardly a race organization.
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