The NationStates Feminist Thread III

[Saiwania]

There's no stability or long-term happiness in persistently acting like a douche and/or predator. You're not going to reap the benefits of genuine love, family life, and community. That's why most people eventually have some desire to settle down with a person of their preferred sex and/or gender who connects with them on a deep mental and spiritual level. And G-d doesn't really approve of promiscuity or premarital sex either so if he experienced a religious awakening those would be some of the first things to go. He's no longer red-pilled. Now he's just based.

It is a great disappointment to many if the legend of Roosh V has really come to an end and he's more of a normie now. He appears to no longer be someone the Manosphere can rally behind or follow. But if he no longer wants to be apart of that world, I suppose that is their decision to make.

[Costa Fierro]

The rumors I've come across is that Roosh V isn't Redpill anymore. He's allegedly turned to God in their words and has renounced extramarital sex. This is a man who used to be about nothing but the quest to sleep with as many women as possible and pick up artistry in general. What happened? I didn't see this coming and I'm skeptical. But if true, this is a sea change in their activities and behavior.

https://relevantmagazine.com/culture/cu ... stian-now/

Is this perhaps all a ruse to regain or salvage a bad reputation they built over the years?
Is this merely a pivot to be the same as before, but from a different direction?
Is this a genuine change in interests and lifestyle?

The man's a nutcase, case closed.

[Albrenia]

Not quite sure why anyone would care what some 'redpilled' dude only famous for being a great big man-hoe does. I wonder if his dedication to his new God will last or if he'll get bored and wander to some new cause eventually.

[Sundiata]

The rumors I've come across is that Roosh V isn't Redpill anymore. He's allegedly turned to God in their words and has renounced extramarital sex. This is a man who used to be about nothing but the quest to sleep with as many women as possible and pick up artistry in general. What happened? I didn't see this coming and I'm skeptical. But if true, this is a sea change in their activities and behavior.

https://relevantmagazine.com/culture/cu ... stian-now/

Is this perhaps all a ruse to regain or salvage a bad reputation they built over the years?
Is this merely a pivot to be the same as before, but from a different direction?
Is this a genuine change in interests and lifestyle?

Frankly, I think he's learned that it isn't actually manly to treat women's bodies as masturbation aides. So many young men's minds are infected by the sickness of pornography that they can't relate to women properly. It's sad.

Not to sound like a grandpa again, but something's got to give.

[Nakena]

The rumors I've come across is that Roosh V isn't Redpill anymore. He's allegedly turned to God in their words and has renounced extramarital sex. This is a man who used to be about nothing but the quest to sleep with as many women as possible and pick up artistry in general. What happened? I didn't see this coming and I'm skeptical. But if true, this is a sea change in their activities and behavior.

https://relevantmagazine.com/culture/cu ... stian-now/

Is this perhaps all a ruse to regain or salvage a bad reputation they built over the years?
Is this merely a pivot to be the same as before, but from a different direction?
Is this a genuine change in interests and lifestyle?

Frankly, I think he's learned that it isn't actually manly to treat women's bodies as masturbation aides. So many young men's minds are infected by the sickness of pornography that they can't relate to women properly. It's sad.

Not to sound like a grandpa again, but something's got to give.

You don't sound like grandpa though. But thats another story.

[The Evergreen Dreamscapes]

And G-d doesn't really approve of promiscuity or premarital sex either

i mean according to christian tradition, god impregnated a woman who was already engaged to someone else

[Purple Rats]

Frankly, I think he's learned that it isn't actually manly to treat women's bodies as masturbation aides. So many young men's minds are infected by the sickness of pornography that they can't relate to women properly. It's sad.

Not to sound like a grandpa again, but something's got to give.

That sounds like you are blaming pornography industries, instead of these men. There is absolutely nothing wrong with watching porn, as long as you have ability to separate these movies / magazines in your mind from real life. And if someone can not do that, then problem is with them, and we should deal with that.

Is it video games fault that some people are violent? No! So why accuse porn for someone being an asshole towards women?

[Nakena]

Frankly, I think he's learned that it isn't actually manly to treat women's bodies as masturbation aides. So many young men's minds are infected by the sickness of pornography that they can't relate to women properly. It's sad.

Not to sound like a grandpa again, but something's got to give.

That sounds like you are blaming pornography industries, instead of these men. There is absolutely nothing wrong with watching porn, as long as you have ability to separate these movies / magazines in your mind from real life. And if someone can not do that, then problem is with them, and we should deal with that.

Is it video games fault that some people are violent? No! So why accuse porn for someone being an asshole towards women?

Because it's supposedly evil and degenerate and what not.

Also because that porntab or that entry in the browser chronology is all too tempting for some young catholic males here.

[Ostroeuropa]

It's worth considering that he may not be sincere and is applying the principles of the red pill In earnest by exploiting the fact people can't prove he isn't.

By sleeping around in his early years and then shifting into a religious conservative later, he gets the best of both. It's important to note that this dynamic is a reflection of what the red pill alleges women do (Sleep with alpha males in their prime years, then settle for a beta male later.).

Roosh has done the sleeping around phase and is now pitching monogamy and chastity, presumably in the hope of obtaining a virgin wife.

This only works to convince those christian chaste women if he pretends he has repented. He is treating them like beta males are treated according to red pill philosophy, conned by duplicitous and insincere "conversions" from women that are in actuality just utility maximization.

In the same way that it is alleged women would never admit consciously deciding to exploit the sexual market place to the men they eventually settle down with, Roosh cannot openly admit he is being insincere In his conversion to a potential future wife.

It's striking that it maps precisely onto his worldview and you shouldn't take him at his word that he has in fact changed his opinions. If someone spends years arguing duplicity and insincerity in your later years is a utility maximizing choice, and then suddenly they have a radical change in view that maps precisely onto it, don't take them seriously.

He's slept around and is now angling for a virgin wife. That's all. He spent decades telling us to see through precisely this kind of maneuver and how we should realize those who fall for it are dupes being conned by their partners. (I.E, that they are consciously "Pre-cheating" on you, knowing you won't be able to do the same.).

[Ostroeuropa]

There's no stability or long-term happiness in persistently acting like a douche and/or predator. You're not going to reap the benefits of genuine love, family life, and community. That's why most people eventually have some desire to settle down with a person of their preferred sex and/or gender who connects with them on a deep mental and spiritual level. And G-d doesn't really approve of promiscuity or premarital sex either so if he experienced a religious awakening those would be some of the first things to go. He's no longer red-pilled. Now he's just based.

It is a great disappointment to many if the legend of Roosh V has really come to an end and he's more of a normie now. He appears to no longer be someone the Manosphere can rally behind or follow. But if he no longer wants to be apart of that world, I suppose that is their decision to make.

He was never someone the manosphere rallied behind. The manosphere rallies behind nobody because they're a bunch of fundamentally incompatible movements held together only by the fact that they're all broadly antifeminist.

Roosh was hated by MRAs, Incels, and MGTOWs.

[Nakena]

It is a great disappointment to many if the legend of Roosh V has really come to an end and he's more of a normie now. He appears to no longer be someone the Manosphere can rally behind or follow. But if he no longer wants to be apart of that world, I suppose that is their decision to make.

He was never someone the manosphere rallied behind. The manosphere rallies behind nobody because they're a bunch of fundamentally incompatible movements held together only by the fact that they're all broadly antifeminist.

Roosh was hated by MRAs, Incels, and MGTOWs.

So he was basically was Spencer was to the alt-right?

[Ostroeuropa]

He was never someone the manosphere rallied behind. The manosphere rallies behind nobody because they're a bunch of fundamentally incompatible movements held together only by the fact that they're all broadly antifeminist.

Roosh was hated by MRAs, Incels, and MGTOWs.

So he was basically was Spencer was to the alt-right?

I wouldn't even go that far. He was a primary red-piller and PUA, but nobody else took him seriously or quoted any of his ideas or work.

[Sundiata]

Frankly, I think he's learned that it isn't actually manly to treat women's bodies as masturbation aides. So many young men's minds are infected by the sickness of pornography that they can't relate to women properly. It's sad.

Not to sound like a grandpa again, but something's got to give.

That sounds like you are blaming pornography industries, instead of these men. There is absolutely nothing wrong with watching porn, as long as you have ability to separate these movies / magazines in your mind from real life. And if someone can not do that, then problem is with them, and we should deal with that.

Is it video games fault that some people are violent? No! So why accuse porn for someone being an asshole towards women?

The fish rots from the head down. Of course the behavior of men who degrade women is wrong but there shouldn't be an industry that normalizes the degradation of women in the first place. We've got to put our collective foot down and say no to pornography.

[Ostroeuropa]

That sounds like you are blaming pornography industries, instead of these men. There is absolutely nothing wrong with watching porn, as long as you have ability to separate these movies / magazines in your mind from real life. And if someone can not do that, then problem is with them, and we should deal with that.

Is it video games fault that some people are violent? No! So why accuse porn for someone being an asshole towards women?

The fish rots from the head down. Of course the behavior of men who degrade women is wrong but there shouldn't be an industry that normalizes the degradation of women in the first place. We've got to put our collective foot down and say no to pornography.

What's wrong with consensual degradation?

[Nakena]

That sounds like you are blaming pornography industries, instead of these men. There is absolutely nothing wrong with watching porn, as long as you have ability to separate these movies / magazines in your mind from real life. And if someone can not do that, then problem is with them, and we should deal with that.

Is it video games fault that some people are violent? No! So why accuse porn for someone being an asshole towards women?

The fish rots from the head down. Of course the behavior of men who degrade women is wrong but there shouldn't be an industry that normalizes the degradation of women in the first place. We've got to put our collective foot down and say no to pornography.

Too late. Thanks to the internet pornography is now universally available. Theres no way to put that ghost back into the bottle. Steaming portals are ubiquitous too. Oh the later harmed the industry btw... I would know ; )

[Sundiata]

The fish rots from the head down. Of course the behavior of men who degrade women is wrong but there shouldn't be an industry that normalizes the degradation of women in the first place. We've got to put our collective foot down and say no to pornography.

Too late. Thanks to the internet pornography is now universally available. Theres no way to put that ghost back into the bottle. Steaming portals are ubiquitous too. Oh the later harmed the industry btw... I would know ; )

As long as we're alive it's never too late to do what's right.

[Purple Rats]

The fish rots from the head down. Of course the behavior of men who degrade women is wrong but there shouldn't be an industry that normalizes the degradation of women in the first place. We've got to put our collective foot down and say no to pornography.

I think it depends of a porn. Most probably does not degrade, as there is nothing "degrading" about active sexual life. It just gives unrealistic thoughts to some that this is how it works... But honestly, if someone watches porn and thinks that this is how society works, then they are fucking idiots.

As there are plenty of over sexual people, losing porn industry would make everything way worse. Just let people watch porn, and teach them to respect real life people.

Like I said before, compare it to video games. We are not gonna ban violent video games, are we?

[Purple Rats]

Btw, not only men watch porn.

[Proctopeo]

So he was basically was Spencer was to the alt-right?

I wouldn't even go that far. He was a primary red-piller and PUA, but nobody else took him seriously or quoted any of his ideas or work.

It's more that he was the poster child for "the manosphere" to people who were too lazy to understand what they were against, or were being actively dishonest about it.

[Nakena]

Too late. Thanks to the internet pornography is now universally available. Theres no way to put that ghost back into the bottle. Steaming portals are ubiquitous too. Oh the later harmed the industry btw... I would know ; )

As long as we're alive it's never too late to do what's right.

It's been a long time ago. It was an interesting time and I gained some insight through it. I have upgraded my game since then, rest assured.

I think it depends of a porn. Most probably does not degrade, as there is nothing "degrading" about active sexual life. It just gives unrealistic thoughts to some that this is how it works... But honestly, if someone watches porn and thinks that this is how society works, then they are fucking idiots.

As there are plenty of over sexual people, losing porn industry would make everything way worse. Just let people watch porn, and teach them to respect real life people.

Like I said before, compare it to video games. We are not gonna ban violent video games, are we?

Porn isn't supposed to be real and what happens there is almost always heavily coreographed to varying degrees. It can be even, in some ways, a ritualized sex performance.

Btw, not only men watch porn.

Many females prefer written content. Also quite often the violent and nasty kind.

[Nakena]

I wouldn't even go that far. He was a primary red-piller and PUA, but nobody else took him seriously or quoted any of his ideas or work.

It's more that he was the poster child for "the manosphere" to people who were too lazy to understand what they were against, or were being actively dishonest about it.

Also there was that "epic battle" of Toronto(?) that was literally him being chased into a bar by a number of angry feminists.

[Albrenia]

It's more that he was the poster child for "the manosphere" to people who were too lazy to understand what they were against, or were being actively dishonest about it.

Also there was that "epic battle" of Toronto(?) that was literally him being chased into a bar by a number of angry feminists.

Was Benny Hill music playing at the time?

[Nakena]

Also there was that "epic battle" of Toronto(?) that was literally him being chased into a bar by a number of angry feminists.

Was Benny Hill music playing at the time?

Its not as exciting unfortunatly.

[Albrenia]

Was Benny Hill music playing at the time?

Its not as exciting unfortunatly.

Top tier humanity on display there. Everyone totally acting like galaxy brains.

[New haven america]

That sounds like you are blaming pornography industries, instead of these men. There is absolutely nothing wrong with watching porn, as long as you have ability to separate these movies / magazines in your mind from real life. And if someone can not do that, then problem is with them, and we should deal with that.

Is it video games fault that some people are violent? No! So why accuse porn for someone being an asshole towards women?

The fish rots from the head down. Of course the behavior of men who degrade women is wrong but there shouldn't be an industry that normalizes the degradation of women in the first place. We've got to put our collective foot down and say no to pornography.

What if they're into degradation?