The Berkeley Incident and Free Speech

[Alvecia]

Poor Milo. The university really should have provided him with some kind of space that is safe from this kind of interference.

Don't try to spin this around. So called "safe spaces" are tries at making a pocket dimension where counter argument do not exist. In this case, we see a need for protection against violence, not counter arguments.

I believe we already have those. Police, and assault laws, and the like.

[Philjia]

Milo does not preach hate, so what's your point?

Apart from his hatred of gay people.

[Hexgard]

Milo does not preach hate, so what's your point?

Apart from his hatred of gay people.

You do get that he is openly gay, right? Do go on and fetch proof of him, a gay man, being hateful to gay people.

[Vassenor]

Also if the Right isn't interested in Safe Spaces, why did the president cancel an address out of fear there might be protests?

[Great Nepal]

The problem here being that people opposing milo exercised their right to protest, some became violent and police responded by appropriately handling the violence that occurred? Not getting a lot of relevance to free speech.

[Alvecia]

Apart from his hatred of gay people.

You do get that he is openly gay, right? Do go on and fetch proof of him, a gay man, being hateful to gay people.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... he-closet/
By Milo

He can be gay and hate gays. Just means he's particularly self hating.

[Philjia]

Apart from his hatred of gay people.

You do get that he is openly gay, right? Do go on and fetch proof of him, a gay man, being hateful to gay people.

I hate Milo, but not as much as he hates himself. He has described homosexuality as aberrant, as a lifestyle choice, has said lesbians don't exist, and has stated that he has been interested in experimenting with conversion therapy.

[United Dixieland Territories]

Clearly, these anarchistic ruffians are deathly allergic to free speech.

[Uiiop]

The problem here being that people opposing milo exercised their right to protest, some became violent and police responded by appropriately handling the violence that occurred? Not getting a lot of relevance to free speech.

http://news.berkeley.edu/2017/02/01/yia ... -canceled/ Apparently More like a new group of protesters came in and did that but other than that looks accurate.

[Vassenor]

Clearly, these anarchistic ruffians are deathly allergic to free speech.

Pretty sure they're fine with free speech. They were exercising that right after all.

[Hirota]

Why are people only ever concerned with the right of individuals to preach hate? Is the protest not itself an example of people exercising their own freedom of speech?

As long as it stays in the realm of protest, sure. But when that protest turns into an excuse to assault then there is a problem.

[Alvecia]

The problem here being that people opposing milo exercised their right to protest, some became violent and police responded by appropriately handling the violence that occurred? Not getting a lot of relevance to free speech.

http://news.berkeley.edu/2017/02/01/yia ... Aparrently More like a new group of protesters came in and did that but other than that looks accurate.

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[United Dixieland Territories]

Clearly, these anarchistic ruffians are deathly allergic to free speech.

Pretty sure they're fine with free speech. They were exercising that right after all.

Destroying private property? Excellent argument to not take these "people" seriously past the riot shield.

[Vassenor]

Pretty sure they're fine with free speech. They were exercising that right after all.

Destroying private property? Excellent argument to not take these "people" seriously past the riot shield.

So I take it you can prove that the majority involved in the protest participated in those actions?

[Uiiop]

http://news.berkeley.edu/2017/02/01/yia ... Aparrently More like a new group of protesters came in and did that but other than that looks accurate.

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Fixed it for ya

Pretty sure they're fine with free speech. They were exercising that right after all.

Destroying private property? Excellent argument to not take these "people" seriously past the riot shield.

there were two separate groups according to the Berkeley the peaceful protestors were the bigger one .

[Alvecia]

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Fixed it for ya

Ta v much

[Dumb Ideologies]

The violent protesters shot their own side in the foot and should be ashamed of themselves for their own stupidity and making the arguments of their opponents seem more legitimate while simultaneous publicizing them.

Crypto-anarchistic morons.

[Seangoli]

You do get that he is openly gay, right? Do go on and fetch proof of him, a gay man, being hateful to gay people.

I hate Milo, but not as much as he hates himself. He has described homosexuality as aberrant, as a lifestyle choice, has said lesbians don't exist, and has stated that he has been interested in experimenting with conversion therapy.

You see, that's the confusing part about him.

If he honestly thinks its a lifestyle choice, why would he personally need conversion therapy? He obviously doesn't want to be gay, and since it is a choice he should easily just choose not to be gay.

He's a confusing sort of asshole.

[Alvecia]

The violent protesters shot their own side in the foot and should be ashamed of themselves for their own stupidity and making the arguments of their opponents seem more legitimate while simultaneous publicizing them.

Crypto-anarchistic morons.

Sometimes I don't wonder if there's just an apolitical org somewhere that goes to any and all protests just to start violence.

[Hexgard]

Also if the Right isn't interested in Safe Spaces, why did the president cancel an address out of fear there might be protests?

Might be because the protests lately haven't been all too peaceful?

You do get that he is openly gay, right? Do go on and fetch proof of him, a gay man, being hateful to gay people.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... he-closet/
By Milo

He can be gay and hate gays. Just means he's particularly self hating.

There isn't anything particullary hateful towards gays there, after all, half of it is praise on how gay men are great for society. It is rather a criticism on the gay community in his own right.

[Uiiop]

Also if the Right isn't interested in Safe Spaces, why did the president cancel an address out of fear there might be protests?

Might be because the protests lately haven't been all too peaceful?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... he-closet/
By Milo

He can be gay and hate gays. Just means he's particularly self hating.

There isn't anything particullary hateful towards gays there, after all, half of it is praise on how gay men are great for society. It is rather a criticism on the gay community in his own right.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05 ... and-a-dad/ I got it from the article. Demanding people conform to Hetro-Nuclear families is a bit suspect to say the least.
Also i noticed to didn't see the links i gave you.

[Alvecia]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... he-closet/
By Milo

He can be gay and hate gays. Just means he's particularly self hating.

There isn't anything particullary hateful towards gays there, after all, half of it is praise on how gay men are great for society. It is rather a criticism on the gay community in his own right.

Granted there's nothing explicit. But his entire career is pretty much built upon the demonisation of gays and the like.
He obviously does not like gays and being gay.

[Pasong Tirad]

Whatever one's opinion of Milo is, does that opinion really validate the decision to shut down free speech? Especially on a campus meant for higher education?

People seem to get this wrong a lot. Free speech protects you from being imprisoned or fined or harmed in any way from the government. People not wanting to listen to your crap isn't "limiting free speech," it just means they don't want to hear somebody else's bullshit.

[Seangoli]

Also if the Right isn't interested in Safe Spaces, why did the president cancel an address out of fear there might be protests?

Might be because the protests lately haven't been all too peaceful?

Actually not true on both of you. The President didn't cancel any addresses or meetings. He was going to meet with members of the Harley-Davidson company, however Harley-Davidson decided to cancel the meeting due to fear of protests. The fear likely being bad publicity more than anything.

[Eisarn-Ara]

Anarchic ruffians are digging their own goddamn holes; and by the gods, they are tripping themselves into the gaping maws of those very same holes they cut into the cold ground, almost as if their hubris & narcissism functioned like a spade to dig a grave for their ideology. And when these people are rounded up, arrested in mass or "disappeared", they'll have to remember that by taking the identity politics suppository with such gusto, they in-effect did all of that damage to themselves and whatever pissant cause they claim to stand for.


They did it to themselves.