The Berkeley Incident and Free Speech

[Oneracon]

Trump has threatened to cut funds to Berkeley on the premise that the university itself oppressed Milo. On the contrary, it went out of its way to let him speak. The students, on the other hand, did not.

If a university cannot guarantee the safety and security of its campus and the protection of constitutional rights on it, then it is not a university worthy of federal funds (or for that matter, paying the tuition).

Well that would be for Congress to decide, since the White House can't cut access to the federal student loan program unilaterally yet.

I would also argue that cutting funding that would hurt the DoE's Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory would be harmful to research... but we already have a good idea of this administration's attitudes toward science.

[Reploid Productions]

call me a violent psychopath, but i think a few beanbags to the chest of a lot of them should keep them quiet.

This, by itself, inclined to let slide. However, it is not by itself, it has friends:

The fuck is wrong with you.

again, its berkely, people wouldn't know proper civilized discussion from shit flinging to the roman forums.

You have had a 7-day, 10-day, and a two-week ban since November. You have had ample warnings, bans, and one prior nation deletion thus far to try and convince you that your behavior needs to change so that it is in alignment with the site rules. You have failed, once again, to heed these warnings.

*** Balkenreich, DEAT and 1-month forumban for trolling/flamebaiting given history. ***


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

[Liriena]

Ugh, more identity politics. x3


I don't do online diagnosis. And I'm not even a mental health professional, so it's a double no-no.

On a more serious note: I'm generally wary when it comes to giving the state the power to kill or seriously injure people.

Because feminism isn't identity politics?

Feminism is a civil rights movement.

"Identity politics" is just a right-wing buzzword used to disparage contemporary civil rights movements.

But you're all for them doing nothing and allowing a bunch of rioters to vandalize property and assault people?

Not quite.

[Liriena]

Trump has threatened to cut funds to Berkeley on the premise that the university itself oppressed Milo. On the contrary, it went out of its way to let him speak. The students, on the other hand, did not.

If a university cannot guarantee the safety and security of its campus and the protection of constitutional rights on it, then it is not a university worthy of federal funds (or for that matter, paying the tuition).

Universities are supposed to simultaneously provide an education and act as law enforcement?

Also, there is no constitutional right to a platform.

[Elwher]

If a university cannot guarantee the safety and security of its campus and the protection of constitutional rights on it, then it is not a university worthy of federal funds (or for that matter, paying the tuition).

Universities are supposed to simultaneously provide an education and act as law enforcement?

Also, there is no constitutional right to a platform.

Very true. And if UC Berkley, home of the Free Speech movement, and its student body would be honest enough to simply say we do not like what Milo has to say so we won't let him say it, we at least would not be calling hypocrite, just that they were afraid he might convince someone.

[The Conez Imperium]

So who exactly is this milo dude?

I read his wikipedia page and from what I can gather he seems to be a troll or some heretic.

While Yiannopoulos is openly gay, he has stated that gay rights are detrimental to humanity, and that gay men should "get back in the closet".[94] He has described being gay as "aberrant" and "a lifestyle choice guaranteed to bring [gay people] pain and unhappiness".[95]

His wikipedia page was brief on his beliefs so could someone fill me in, in what Milo believes in?

[Frenline Delpha]

So who exactly is this milo dude?

I read his wikipedia page and from what I can gather he seems to be a troll or some heretic.

While Yiannopoulos is openly gay, he has stated that gay rights are detrimental to humanity, and that gay men should "get back in the closet".[94] He has described being gay as "aberrant" and "a lifestyle choice guaranteed to bring [gay people] pain and unhappiness".[95]

His wikipedia page was brief on his beliefs so could someone fill me in, in what Milo believes in?

He's a right-wing, gay jew (literally) with a pension for black boyfriends. And he's against both identity politics (from white nationalism to Social Justice) and feminism.

[Liriena]

Universities are supposed to simultaneously provide an education and act as law enforcement?

Also, there is no constitutional right to a platform.

Very true. And if UC Berkley, home of the Free Speech movement, and its student body would be honest enough to simply say we do not like what Milo has to say so we won't let him say it, we at least would not be calling hypocrite, just that they were afraid he might convince endanger someone.

The problem isn't that Yiannopoulos has right-wing opinions. It's that he has a history of using platforms to engage in the doxxing of private individuals.

[Liriena]

So who exactly is this milo dude?

I read his wikipedia page and from what I can gather he seems to be a troll or some heretic.



His wikipedia page was brief on his beliefs so could someone fill me in, in what Milo believes in?

He's a right-wing, gay jew (literally) with a pension for black boyfriends. And he's against both identity politics (from white nationalism to Social Justice) and feminism.

To be more accurate, he's a self-hating gay man who believes that his sexual orientation is an aberration and wishes he could be cured, and is only Jewish insofar as he has matrilineal Jewish ancestry, but was actually raised Catholic.

He's also proudly misogynistic and anti-LGBT rights (insofar as he only seems to care about the human rights of LGBT people when it's Muslims oppressing us), and likes to use his influence as a public figure to harass others, including both fellow public figures and private individuals.

[Zakuvia]

Trump has threatened to cut funds to Berkeley on the premise that the university itself oppressed Milo. On the contrary, it went out of its way to let him speak. The students, on the other hand, did not.

If a university cannot guarantee the safety and security of its campus and the protection of constitutional rights on it, then it is not a university worthy of federal funds (or for that matter, paying the tuition).

I'm sorry, since when is a UNIVERSITY also a National Guard outpost or a police precinct? The University is under no obligation to do any such thing, and the University didn't attract an angry mob. That would have been Milo.

[Frenline Delpha]

He's a right-wing, gay jew (literally) with a pension for black boyfriends. And he's against both identity politics (from white nationalism to Social Justice) and feminism.

To be more accurate, he's a self-hating gay man who believes that his sexual orientation is an aberration and wishes he could be cured, and is only Jewish insofar as he has matrilineal Jewish ancestry, but was actually raised Catholic.

He's also proudly misogynistic and anti-LGBT rights (insofar as he only seems to care about the human rights of LGBT people when it's Muslims oppressing us), and likes to use his influence as a public figure to harass others, including both fellow public figures and private individuals.

So, I wanna see your evidence of this. That second paragraph in particular. And if you bring up Leslie Jones, I m going to split my side.

[Zakuvia]

To be more accurate, he's a self-hating gay man who believes that his sexual orientation is an aberration and wishes he could be cured, and is only Jewish insofar as he has matrilineal Jewish ancestry, but was actually raised Catholic.

He's also proudly misogynistic and anti-LGBT rights (insofar as he only seems to care about the human rights of LGBT people when it's Muslims oppressing us), and likes to use his influence as a public figure to harass others, including both fellow public figures and private individuals.

So, I wanna see your evidence of this. That second paragraph in particular. And if you bring up Leslie Jones, I m going to split my side.

I got you fam.

[Patridam]

He's a right-wing, gay jew (literally) with a pension for black boyfriends. And he's against both identity politics (from white nationalism to Social Justice) and feminism.

To be more accurate, he's a self-hating gay man who believes that his sexual orientation is an aberration and wishes he could be cured, and is only Jewish insofar as he has matrilineal Jewish ancestry, but was actually raised Catholic.

He's also proudly misogynistic and anti-LGBT rights (insofar as he only seems to care about the human rights of LGBT people when it's Muslims oppressing us), and likes to use his influence as a public figure to harass others, including both fellow public figures and private individuals.

In what is he against the rights of LGBwhatever? Or do you only thing he's against them because he hasn't drank the leftist kool aid?

[Philjia]

To be more accurate, he's a self-hating gay man who believes that his sexual orientation is an aberration and wishes he could be cured, and is only Jewish insofar as he has matrilineal Jewish ancestry, but was actually raised Catholic.

He's also proudly misogynistic and anti-LGBT rights (insofar as he only seems to care about the human rights of LGBT people when it's Muslims oppressing us), and likes to use his influence as a public figure to harass others, including both fellow public figures and private individuals.

In what is he against the rights of LGBwhatever? Or do you only thing he's against them because he hasn't drank the leftist kool aid?

He has literally said that gay people should get back in the closet and that lesbians generally don't exist.

[Vassenor]

In what is he against the rights of LGBwhatever? Or do you only thing he's against them because he hasn't drank the leftist kool aid?

He has literally said that gay people should get back in the closet and that lesbians generally don't exist.

And that belittling transpeople until they get help for their "delusions" is good for them.

[Patridam]

In what is he against the rights of LGBwhatever? Or do you only thing he's against them because he hasn't drank the leftist kool aid?

He has literally said that gay people should get back in the closet and that lesbians generally don't exist.

If you had paid any attention to the video linked you would realize he is not at all against the legality of gay marriage.

[Philjia]

He has literally said that gay people should get back in the closet and that lesbians generally don't exist.

If you had paid any attention to the video linked you would realize he is not at all against the legality of gay marriage.

Legal arguments are not necessarily the same as moral arguments. I'm morally against weed and prostitution, but I support their legalisation.

[Vassenor]

You know, I'm highly tempted to put him in the "professional victim" basket now.

[Gauthier]

You know, I'm highly tempted to put him in the "professional victim" basket now.

Like his "Daddy" Donald Trump.

[Oneracon]

He has literally said that gay people should get back in the closet and that lesbians generally don't exist.

If you had paid any attention to the video linked you would realize he is not at all against the legality of gay marriage.

He is the very definition of a quisling... though he's hardly the first gay man to try and ingratiate himself to the far-right.

Didn't turn out too well for Ernst Röhm.

[Proctopeo]

If you had paid any attention to the video linked you would realize he is not at all against the legality of gay marriage.

He is the very definition of a quisling

No, he's the very model of a modern major-General.

[Jamzmania]

Because feminism isn't identity politics?

Feminism is a civil rights movement.

"Identity politics" is just a right-wing buzzword used to disparage contemporary civil rights movements.

But you're all for them doing nothing and allowing a bunch of rioters to vandalize property and assault people?

Not quite.

What civil rights are feminists fighting for?

[Patridam]

Feminism is a civil rights movement.

"Identity politics" is just a right-wing buzzword used to disparage contemporary civil rights movements.


Not quite.

What civil rights are feminists fighting for?

Female supremacy and gender studies jobs that are more plentiful and better paying than engineering jobs, etc.

[Saint Marguerite Academy]

He is the very definition of a quisling

No, he's the very model of a modern major-General.

I hear he knows the kings of England and quotes the fights historical.

[Jumalariik]

It's funny how somebody like Noam Chomsky never gets no-platformed even if he has done apology for evil regimes yet Milo gets it. :/