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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:33 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Only works when they don't have tunnels

Landmine the tunnels!

Flooding them would be easier
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:33 am

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"Authorization of Force", these things still have to be voted on if they want them in country for more than a couple months at most.

60 days.


Yes, that is why I said a couple of months.
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Postby Cymrea » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:33 am

The East Marches wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It would definitely stop the drug dealers


They've already got the supplies on hand and ready. In order to get any sort of domestic industry, we'd have to restrict their importation. That means controlling the borders. Unless you are unamerican and want foreign made drugs.

Tabs of designer drugs made in the USA should be stamped with an American flag!
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:34 am

The East Marches wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It would definitely stop the drug dealers


They've already got the supplies on hand and ready. In order to get any sort of domestic industry, we'd have to restrict their importation. That means controlling the borders. Unless you are unamerican and want foreign made drugs.

What's the harm in foreign made heroin? It's fucking heroin, might as well get the good shit
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:35 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
They've already got the supplies on hand and ready. In order to get any sort of domestic industry, we'd have to restrict their importation. That means controlling the borders. Unless you are unamerican and want foreign made drugs.

What's the harm in foreign made heroin? It's fucking heroin, might as well get the good shit


The whole point of legalizing it is to prevent foreign criminal elements from bringing them over. Besides, we could do with a good boost for American farmers.
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Postby Cymrea » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:35 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
They've already got the supplies on hand and ready. In order to get any sort of domestic industry, we'd have to restrict their importation. That means controlling the borders. Unless you are unamerican and want foreign made drugs.

What's the harm in foreign made heroin? It's fucking heroin, might as well get the good shit

Traitor!

Also having "what's the harm" and "heroin" in the same sentence is funny.
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:35 am

Cymrea wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
They've already got the supplies on hand and ready. In order to get any sort of domestic industry, we'd have to restrict their importation. That means controlling the borders. Unless you are unamerican and want foreign made drugs.

Tabs of designer drugs made in the USA should be stamped with an American flag!


I wish to see this happen so I can know I am buying American.
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Postby Cymrea » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:36 am

The East Marches wrote:
Cymrea wrote:Tabs of designer drugs made in the USA should be stamped with an American flag!


I wish to see this happen so I can know I am buying American.

You'll know it because the price will be much higher. ;)
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:36 am

The East Marches wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:What's the harm in foreign made heroin? It's fucking heroin, might as well get the good shit


The whole point of legalizing it is to prevent foreign criminal elements from bringing them over. Besides, we could do with a good boost for American farmers.

The point to legalizing it is to a. Make drug cartels less profitable and violent and b. to make it easier to help addicts.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:36 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Landmine the tunnels!

Flooding them would be easier

I'm bloodthirsty, not sadistic.

All I want is to ride a gunboat down the Rio with a kevlar pith helmet and force an unequal treaty on Mexico.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:36 am

Napkiraly wrote:
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Theyd still get through it.

Automated GAU-8 sentries at the exists of the tunnels may have to be implemented, yes.


That would be terrifying. Ever seen an A10 gun run? Jesus christ. BRRRTTRT

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Postby Mefpan » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:36 am

Gauthier wrote:
Mefpan wrote:Are you actually implying Mexico and the cartels would be able to put up a fight like Vietnam? You know, the Vietnam that was backed by a rival superpower?

I don't get the other side gloating about how Mexico is a pushover and crying about how opponents of the invasion want American troops massacred in the same breath.

That's no problem - you don't have to get every facet of life.

But as a freebie: One is a factual assessment comparing the strength of the nation of Mexico against the military superpower that is the United States of America. The other is spiteful, vindictive hoping for thousands of little PR disasters just to spite a president you disagree with after needlessly polarizing the political debate with increasingly crazy positions.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:37 am

The East Marches wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:What's the harm in foreign made heroin? It's fucking heroin, might as well get the good shit


The whole point of legalizing it is to prevent foreign criminal elements from bringing them over. Besides, we could do with a good boost for American farmers.

It's also a good way to stick it to Afghanistan.

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Postby The East Marches » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:37 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
The whole point of legalizing it is to prevent foreign criminal elements from bringing them over. Besides, we could do with a good boost for American farmers.

The point to legalizing it is to a. Make drug cartels less profitable and violent and b. to make it easier to help addicts.


Then why bother legalizing it in the first place if it is still going to cause an outflow of money from the States? That was one the biggest selling points I heard from people on the matter. Canada border wall soon.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:37 am

Cymrea wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
I wish to see this happen so I can know I am buying American.

You'll know it because the price will be much higher. ;)

Though it will still be made in China
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:37 am

The East Marches wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:What's the harm in foreign made heroin? It's fucking heroin, might as well get the good shit


The whole point of legalizing it is to prevent foreign criminal elements from bringing them over. Besides, we could do with a good boost for American farmers.


^ This, really.

The legalization of pot has made American pot farms more viable, and as a result it has driven down prices of pot in those areas, making those areas unprofitable for cartels when it comes to pot.

Ideally, illegal drugs should have a "sin profit" attached to it that far outweights its real market value as an otherwise medicinal drug, and have a pretty good chance to bring in a lot of tax revenues to a state, in order to legalize it.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:38 am

Mefpan wrote:
Gauthier wrote:I don't get the other side gloating about how Mexico is a pushover and crying about how opponents of the invasion want American troops massacred in the same breath.

That's no problem - you don't have to get every facet of life.

But as a freebie: One is a factual assessment comparing the strength of the nation of Mexico against the military superpower that is the United States of America. The other is spiteful, vindictive hoping for thousands of little PR disasters just to spite a president you disagree with after needlessly polarizing the political debate with increasingly crazy positions.

If Mexico is a pushover, why worry about miniscule troop casualties then?
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Postby Cymrea » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:38 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Automated GAU-8 sentries at the exists of the tunnels may have to be implemented, yes.


That would be terrifying. Ever seen an A10 gun run? Jesus christ. BRRRTTRT

On tanks they're terrifying. As an antipersonnel weapon....molecular pink mist.
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Postby Cymrea » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:39 am

The East Marches wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:The point to legalizing it is to a. Make drug cartels less profitable and violent and b. to make it easier to help addicts.


Then why bother legalizing it in the first place if it is still going to cause an outflow of money from the States? That was one the biggest selling points I heard from people on the matter. Canada border wall soon.

See, THAT you could get them to pay for.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:39 am

The East Marches wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:The point to legalizing it is to a. Make drug cartels less profitable and violent and b. to make it easier to help addicts.


Then why bother legalizing it in the first place if it is still going to cause an outflow of money from the States? That was one the biggest selling points I heard from people on the matter. Canada border wall soon.

I literally just explained two valid reason to legalize it without banning foreign trade. I'm not saying US farmers can't grow it, just that it's pointless to block importation of it
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:40 am

Napkiraly wrote:It's interesting seeing Americans hope that thousands or tens of thousands of American military personnel are killed and maimed by drug cartel soldiers.

These are the "patriotic" anti-Trump protesters I hear about apparently.

Exactly what is your problem with the idea of armed citizens defending their nation against invaders?


Cymrea wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:What's the harm in foreign made heroin? It's fucking heroin, might as well get the good shit

Traitor!

Also having "what's the harm" and "heroin" in the same sentence is funny.

Heroin isn't all that harmful. The worst heroin will give you is constipation. There's a reason we use opioids as pain killers.

It's all the other shit in what one buys from some sketchy looking hombre that'll fuck you up, or the dirty needle you borrowed, or overdosing.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:40 am

Cymrea wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
That would be terrifying. Ever seen an A10 gun run? Jesus christ. BRRRTTRT

On tanks they're terrifying. As an antipersonnel weapon....molecular pink mist.

No human rights are too sacred to ditch in favor of mounting anti-vehicular weapons as border control apparently.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:40 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
The whole point of legalizing it is to prevent foreign criminal elements from bringing them over. Besides, we could do with a good boost for American farmers.

The point to legalizing it is to a. Make drug cartels less profitable and violent and b. to make it easier to help addicts.


No state has legalized drugs for such humanitarian reasons.

States have legalized it because it makes financial sense to do so.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:40 am

The East Marches wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:The point to legalizing it is to a. Make drug cartels less profitable and violent and b. to make it easier to help addicts.


Then why bother legalizing it in the first place if it is still going to cause an outflow of money from the States? That was one the biggest selling points I heard from people on the matter. Canada border wall soon.

But wouldn't be more awesome to be the drug lords for a change and have Canada and Mexico build the walls to keep us out?
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:42 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Then why bother legalizing it in the first place if it is still going to cause an outflow of money from the States? That was one the biggest selling points I heard from people on the matter. Canada border wall soon.

I literally just explained two valid reason to legalize it without banning foreign trade. I'm not saying US farmers can't grow it, just that it's pointless to block importation of it


Sure you can. We put restricts on trade items all the time. So do the other countries. Ez pz.
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