Trump MAGAThread IV: Twixt Scylla & Some Bad Hombres

[Collatis]

When Trump declares enteral war against Mexico I remember what you said

That's a funny way to spell Congress. Unless something changed and the president no longer needs their approval for a formal declaration of war these days.

The US hasn't officially declared war since World War II. I think it's pretty clear Congressional approval is de facto unnecessary at this point.

[Thermodolia]

Landmine the border like North Korea.

Only works when they don't have tunnels

[AsReil]

Yes actually. We need a wall to keep shitty Canadians out. How many lives have been lost thanks to Justin Bieber?

Canada has done nothing wrong!

[Mefpan]

It's interesting seeing Americans hope that thousands or tens of thousands of American military personnel are killed and maimed by drug cartel soldiers.

These are the "patriotic" anti-Trump protesters I hear about apparently.

It's more hoping Trump isn't narcissistic and impulsive enough to order an expedition into Mexico but knowing both that he is and that like in Vietnam mounting troop casualties are the only way the people who matter in government grasp how bad an idea it was.

Are you actually implying Mexico and the cartels would be able to put up a fight like Vietnam? You know, the Vietnam that was backed by a rival superpower?

[Gauthier]

Trump promises to kill the Johnson Amendment, so churches can campaign freely without risking their tax exempt status.

But mosques of course will not be allowed to do the exact same thing.

[The East Marches]

That's a funny way to spell Congress. Unless something changed and the president no longer needs their approval for a formal declaration of war these days.

The US hasn't officially declared war since World War II. I think it's pretty clear Congressional approval is de facto unnecessary at this point.

"Authorization of Force", these things still have to be voted on if they want them in country for more than a couple months at most.

[Napkiraly]

It's interesting seeing Americans hope that thousands or tens of thousands of American military personnel are killed and maimed by drug cartel soldiers.

These are the "patriotic" anti-Trump protesters I hear about apparently.

Well, yes. Politics comes first in today's day and age. No madfagging is too much to want to see your opponent fail.

Yes. It is sad to see. Liberals are getting pissy over NAFTA and Trump clamping down of the abuse of cheap labour by companies when many liberals were complaining about those very things a short while ago.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Yes actually. We need a wall to keep shitty Canadians out. How many lives have been lost thanks to Justin Bieber?

Remember the mantra, if one life is saved, it's worth it!

*nod nod*

[Collatis]

Yes actually. We need a wall to keep shitty Canadians out. How many lives have been lost thanks to Justin Bieber?

I think I can get behind this idea...

[Thermodolia]

When Trump declares enteral war against Mexico I remember what you said

That's a funny way to spell Congress. Unless something changed and the president no longer needs their approval for a formal declaration of war these days.

The president only needs 60 days. If congress doesn't approve before the 60 days is up no more war

[Napkiraly]

Landmine the border like North Korea.

Only works when they don't have tunnels

Landmine the tunnels!

[Lady Scylla]

It's interesting seeing Americans hope that thousands or tens of thousands of American military personnel are killed and maimed by drug cartel soldiers.

These are the "patriotic" anti-Trump protesters I hear about apparently.

Not the soldiers' fault. Blame our Government if it happens.

[Thermodolia]

Trump promises to kill the Johnson Amendment, so churches can campaign freely without risking their tax exempt status.

Lovely

[Paddy O Fernature]

The US hasn't officially declared war since World War II. I think it's pretty clear Congressional approval is de facto unnecessary at this point.

"Authorization of Force", these things still have to be voted on if they want them in country for more than a couple months at most.

^ Correct.

[Philjia]

Trump promises to kill the Johnson Amendment, so churches can campaign freely without risking their tax exempt status.

Did John Oliver receive sperm in the mail for nothing?

[Rio Cana]

Yes, of course it's not perfectly legal. I'm arguing that it's not without cause, and most people should understand that the culling of the Mexican cartels would generally be a good thing. They're a bunch of murderous thugs who make a killing (figuratively as well as literally) off of selling poison.

I mean, I don't disagree. Culling the Mexican cartels would, of course, be a good thing.

As I said, I am not entirely sure Trump's blustering will help here, though.

Some think Andrés Manuel López Obrador of MORENA (National Regeneration Movement which officially became a registered political party in 2014) will win the Mexican Pres. elections in 2018. He is left leaning and protectionist. He has said corruption is one of Mexico biggest problem. Why do you think these drug cartels are able to exist.

This is him in this 31 sec. commercial from 2015 on ending Corruption. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgWS98OFJko

[Thermodolia]

Just legalize what every they are bringing in illegally.

>Legalize heroin

Listen fam, its one thing with the weed but thats a bit much.

It would definitely stop the drug dealers

[Napkiraly]

It's more hoping Trump isn't narcissistic and impulsive enough to order an expedition into Mexico but knowing both that he is and that like in Vietnam mounting troop casualties are the only way the people who matter in government grasp how bad an idea it was.

Are you actually implying Mexico and the cartels would be able to put up a fight like Vietnam? You know, the Vietnam that was backed by a rival superpower?

And that actually casualty ratios were slanted very favorably for the USA and co. Hippies cost us the war and it seems they would like a repeat of destroying something with potential before it gets off the ground.

[Lady Scylla]

Landmine the border like North Korea.

Theyd still get through it.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Brick walls are hilariously easy to break through: use a sledgehammer. You're literally inviting cartels to use construction crews to tear down holes through the wall.

Really, we should stick to a metal fence or a metal wall. It's cheaper than laying multiple layers of brick, and it can't be broken down with tools you can find at any cheap hardware store.

Why not use Hescos? Those are nice and cost effect, super easy to make too.

Hescos seem like a good alternative, provided they are mounted uniformly as a wall, or create tall enough hescos to act as a wall.

The more risky issue for cartels would be disrupting the hescos' construction, really, since it seems you fill it with loose dirt, so it'd be a bit hard to breach a wall like that.

[Thermodolia]

The US hasn't officially declared war since World War II. I think it's pretty clear Congressional approval is de facto unnecessary at this point.

"Authorization of Force", these things still have to be voted on if they want them in country for more than a couple months at most.

60 days.

[Gauthier]

It's more hoping Trump isn't narcissistic and impulsive enough to order an expedition into Mexico but knowing both that he is and that like in Vietnam mounting troop casualties are the only way the people who matter in government grasp how bad an idea it was.

Are you actually implying Mexico and the cartels would be able to put up a fight like Vietnam? You know, the Vietnam that was backed by a rival superpower?

I don't get the other side gloating about how Mexico is a pushover and crying about how opponents of the invasion want American troops massacred in the same breath.

[The East Marches]

>Legalize heroin

Listen fam, its one thing with the weed but thats a bit much.

It would definitely stop the drug dealers

They've already got the supplies on hand and ready. In order to get any sort of domestic industry, we'd have to restrict their importation. That means controlling the borders. Unless you are unamerican and want foreign made drugs.

[Napkiraly]

Landmine the border like North Korea.

Theyd still get through it.

Automated GAU-8 sentries at the exists of the tunnels may have to be implemented, yes.

[Cymrea]

I would tbh, our neighbor to the North is a big exporter of illegal things too. Like we can make some holes for awesome oil and shit but just wall the rest off. Ez pz.

We only export illegal maple syrup. Plz no bully the leaf.

Plus all the heavy water from nuclear reactors. Right over the Ambassador Bridge.

Canadian maple syrup is only banned in Vermont. Like BC apples in Washington. Accidentally carried a BC apple over the border in my lunch one time, got waterboarded by ICE in Blaine.