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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:20 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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So you'd... build a wall?

Imagine that. Though this is a plant we are talking about


I'm severely allergic to poison ivy. Neighbour has it. I just avoid it. :lol2:

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:20 am

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And I hope Mexico puts up one hell of a fight then.


Glad you like seeing coffins adorned with american flags being offloaded planes.

Soo what happened to the following?

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Thermodolia wrote:His approval rating in Texas would fall like a rock in a lake.


You think Mexico would counter attack?

have you seen their military?

The fucking cartels could do more damage.

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Gauthier wrote:Taking on the cartels and the Mexican military at the same time is sure a slam dunk like WW2.


hey, one front unlike fighting fighting on opposite sides of the war.

an with the Mexican air force being what it is, our boys would not have to worry about it for long.
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Postby Collatis » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:20 am

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I think you will like the current administration then. The Dread Lord Kissinger is back.

Kissinger never would have invaded Mexico though

tbf I don't expect Trump to do so either. He must have some reasoning abilities.

But maybe he will surprise me by being worse than he already is.

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Postby The East Marches » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:21 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
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So you'd... build a wall?


The problem with the analogy is this: right now we do have a barrier we've put up because we wanted a physical fence. So in that sense our house is fenced. It's just that we haven't given proper maintenance to said fence, but it doesn't necessarily mean we have to tear down the fence and rebuild it. That'd cost us more, considering the materials used, than just patching it.

I mean, if you had a wooden fence across the border, it'd be cheaper to replace and rebuild than patch. It's all about the materials being used, honestly.


We aren't in charge of the grounds keeping. I hope you are ready for a big brick wall with a moat. I don't disagree on the fence being made out of wood being cheaper.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:21 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:Are you people still hyping up a war scenario that was born from a gross misinterpretation of what the President actually said?

Fucking top kek.

When Trump declares enteral war against Mexico I remember what you said
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:21 am

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You actually can't tear it out for him, unless you're willing to trespass into their property. And if someone trespasses property, so far as I am concerned in Texas, the owner of the house has the legal right to shoot that person.

Yes, of course it's not perfectly legal. I'm arguing that it's not without cause, and most people should understand that the culling of the Mexican cartels would generally be a good thing. They're a bunch of murderous thugs who make a killing (figuratively as well as literally) off of selling poison.


I mean, I don't disagree. Culling the Mexican cartels would, of course, be a good thing.

As I said, I am not entirely sure Trump's blustering will help here, though.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:22 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Mefpan wrote:Yes, of course it's not perfectly legal. I'm arguing that it's not without cause, and most people should understand that the culling of the Mexican cartels would generally be a good thing. They're a bunch of murderous thugs who make a killing (figuratively as well as literally) off of selling poison.


I mean, I don't disagree. Culling the Mexican cartels would, of course, be a good thing.

As I said, I am not entirely sure Trump's blustering will help here, though.


And besides. Isn't the CIA still trafficking for them?

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:23 am

The East Marches wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Imagine that. Though this is a plant we are talking about


But its the context of a metaphor meant for the U.S. border :^)

Glad to see you like walls too.

I wouldn't put a wall around the entire property though. Just around the immediate area of the plant, a wooden fence would do fine for the rest.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:24 am

The East Marches wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
The problem with the analogy is this: right now we do have a barrier we've put up because we wanted a physical fence. So in that sense our house is fenced. It's just that we haven't given proper maintenance to said fence, but it doesn't necessarily mean we have to tear down the fence and rebuild it. That'd cost us more, considering the materials used, than just patching it.

I mean, if you had a wooden fence across the border, it'd be cheaper to replace and rebuild than patch. It's all about the materials being used, honestly.


We aren't in charge of the grounds keeping. I hope you are ready for a big brick wall with a moat. I don't disagree on the fence being made out of wood being cheaper.


Brick walls are hilariously easy to break through: use a sledgehammer. You're literally inviting cartels to use construction crews to tear down holes through the wall.

Really, we should stick to a metal fence or a metal wall. It's cheaper than laying multiple layers of brick, and it can't be broken down with tools you can find at any cheap hardware store.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:24 am

It's interesting seeing Americans hope that thousands or tens of thousands of American military personnel are killed and maimed by drug cartel soldiers.

These are the "patriotic" anti-Trump protesters I hear about apparently.
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:24 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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But its the context of a metaphor meant for the U.S. border :^)

Glad to see you like walls too.

I wouldn't put a wall around the entire property though. Just around the immediate area of the plant, a wooden fence would do fine for the rest.


I would tbh, our neighbor to the North is a big exporter of illegal things too. Like we can make some holes for awesome oil and shit but just wall the rest off. Ez pz.
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Postby Mefpan » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:24 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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But its the context of a metaphor meant for the U.S. border :^)

Glad to see you like walls too.

I wouldn't put a wall around the entire property though. Just around the immediate area of the plant, a wooden fence would do fine for the rest.

So you'll build a wall bit by bit as the plant spreads to grow around the bit of wall you built until the wall covers the entire border to neighbor's garden.

Gotcha.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:25 am

The East Marches wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn't put a wall around the entire property though. Just around the immediate area of the plant, a wooden fence would do fine for the rest.


I would tbh, our neighbor to the North is a big exporter of illegal things too. Like we can make some holes for awesome oil and shit but just wall the rest off. Ez pz.

We only export illegal maple syrup. Plz no bully the leaf.

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Postby The East Marches » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:25 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
We aren't in charge of the grounds keeping. I hope you are ready for a big brick wall with a moat. I don't disagree on the fence being made out of wood being cheaper.


Brick walls are hilariously easy to break through: use a sledgehammer. You're literally inviting cartels to use construction crews to tear down holes through the wall.

Really, we should stick to a metal fence or a metal wall. It's cheaper than laying multiple layers of brick, and it can't be broken down with tools you can find at any cheap hardware store.


Why not use Hescos? Those are nice and cost effect, super easy to make too.
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:26 am

Napkiraly wrote:It's interesting seeing Americans hope that thousands or tens of thousands of American military personnel are killed and maimed by drug cartel soldiers.

These are the "patriotic" anti-Trump protesters I hear about apparently.


Well, yes. Politics comes first in today's day and age. No madfagging is too much to want to see your opponent fail.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:26 am

The East Marches wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn't put a wall around the entire property though. Just around the immediate area of the plant, a wooden fence would do fine for the rest.


I would tbh, our neighbor to the North is a big exporter of illegal things too. Like we can make some holes for awesome oil and shit but just wall the rest off. Ez pz.

Just legalize what every they are bringing in illegally.
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Postby Collatis » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:26 am

The East Marches wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn't put a wall around the entire property though. Just around the immediate area of the plant, a wooden fence would do fine for the rest.


I would tbh, our neighbor to the North is a big exporter of illegal things too. Like we can make some holes for awesome oil and shit but just wall the rest off. Ez pz.

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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:26 am

Landmine the border like North Korea.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:26 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:Are you people still hyping up a war scenario that was born from a gross misinterpretation of what the President actually said?

Fucking top kek.

When Trump declares enteral war against Mexico I remember what you said


That's a funny way to spell Congress. Unless something changed and the president no longer needs their approval for a formal declaration of war these days.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:27 am

Napkiraly wrote:It's interesting seeing Americans hope that thousands or tens of thousands of American military personnel are killed and maimed by drug cartel soldiers.

These are the "patriotic" anti-Trump protesters I hear about apparently.

It's more hoping Trump isn't narcissistic and impulsive enough to order an expedition into Mexico but knowing both that he is and that like in Vietnam mounting troop casualties are the only way the people who matter in government grasp how bad an idea it was.
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:27 am

Collatis wrote:
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I would tbh, our neighbor to the North is a big exporter of illegal things too. Like we can make some holes for awesome oil and shit but just wall the rest off. Ez pz.

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Yes actually. We need a wall to keep shitty Canadians out. How many lives have been lost thanks to Justin Bieber?
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Postby AsReil » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:28 am

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Maichuko wrote:So those bakeries that refuse to make cakes for gays might have a major victory.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru ... 07cb6b8672
It's called the Religious Freedom order.

Can Muslims refuse to serve Christians in this law? Can Pastafarians refuse to serve straight people?


For the most part, anyone can refuse service to anyone, especially if it conflicts with their religious affiliation. Same way you can't force a muslim chef to cook a pork-based dish.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:28 am

Mefpan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn't put a wall around the entire property though. Just around the immediate area of the plant, a wooden fence would do fine for the rest.

So you'll build a wall bit by bit as the plant spreads to grow around the bit of wall you built until the wall covers the entire border to neighbor's garden.

Gotcha.

Pretty much and even then I might not give a shit and just let it run wild
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:28 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
I would tbh, our neighbor to the North is a big exporter of illegal things too. Like we can make some holes for awesome oil and shit but just wall the rest off. Ez pz.

Just legalize what every they are bringing in illegally.


>Legalize heroin

Listen fam, its one thing with the weed but thats a bit much.
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