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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:59 am

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it depends on whether or not you hope welfare recipients will get a job and get off welfare or be able to call 911 in an emergency.

gotta have a phone if you want to get a job.


That's not remotely true. My first job I didn't even have a phone when I got accepted.


well there, that proves that in the modern world no one ever needs a phone to get a job.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:59 am

Uxupox wrote:
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Phones are necessary to get a job, as are houses, cars, and computers. Televisions are very cheap one off purchases.


Phones are not necessary, nor is a car or a computer. A house or a place to stay though I do agree that they are necessary.

I wonder how many positions are available today for people with no phone, no computer, and no car.
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Postby Salandriagado » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:00 am

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You show me a single job application form that doesn't require a contact phone number and email address. Cars are necessary to get to jobs in many areas.


Here you go.


Expecting the government to hire the entire low-income population is not viable.
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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:00 am

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You show me a single job application form that doesn't require a contact phone number and email address. Cars are necessary to get to jobs in many areas.


Here you go.

you don't think they CALL YOU while youre in the process of joining the military?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:02 am

Uxupox wrote:
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You show me a single job application form that doesn't require a contact phone number and email address. Cars are necessary to get to jobs in many areas.


Here you go.

How do you apply online to enlist in the Army when you don't have a computer?
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Postby Uxupox » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:03 am

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you don't think they CALL YOU while youre in the process of joining the military?


They don't call you, you go directly to them and then go to MEPS.

Ifreann wrote:

How do you apply online to enlist in the Army when you don't have a computer?


A recruiter's office.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:04 am

Uxupox wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Phones are necessary to get a job, as are houses, cars, and computers. Televisions are very cheap one off purchases.


Phones are not necessary, nor is a car or a computer. A house or a place to stay though I do agree that they are necessary.

I've not seen a single job advert that says anything other than fill out a form on this website, even if you go to a physical shop they give you a booklet with their application website where you go to fill out an application form. You might be able to feasibly do this without personal internet access/ computer if your local area has invested in libraries. Then if they want to take you, they call for preliminary screening - which is rather hard to achieve without a phone. Then they call you for the actual interview, which again is rather difficult without a phone.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:04 am

Uxupox wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:you don't think they CALL YOU while youre in the process of joining the military?


They don't call you, you go directly to them and then go to MEPS.

Ifreann wrote:How do you apply online to enlist in the Army when you don't have a computer?


A recruiter's office.

yeah that's it, you drop into the recruiters office in the morning and by afternoon youre at MEPS
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Postby Uxupox » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:06 am

Great Nepal wrote:
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Phones are not necessary, nor is a car or a computer. A house or a place to stay though I do agree that they are necessary.

I've not seen a single job advert that says anything other than fill out a form on this website, even if you go to a physical shop they give you a booklet with their application website where you go to fill out an application form. You might be able to feasibly do this without personal internet access/ computer if your local area has invested in libraries. Then if they want to take you, they call for preliminary screening - which is rather hard to achieve without a phone. Then they call you for the actual interview, which again is rather difficult without a phone.


Well the instances that I did was years ago (11 years to be exact) so it might have changed but I honestly did get my first job without a phone in Wilco. Just filled an application and got told to show up at a certain date in a certain place.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:06 am

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Postby Uxupox » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:06 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
They don't call you, you go directly to them and then go to MEPS.



A recruiter's office.

yeah that's it, you drop into the recruiters office in the morning and by afternoon youre at MEPS


Honestly you can skip going to a recruiter and go directly to MEPS.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:08 am

Uxupox wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:you don't think they CALL YOU while youre in the process of joining the military?


They don't call you, you go directly to them and then go to MEPS.

Ifreann wrote:How do you apply online to enlist in the Army when you don't have a computer?


A recruiter's office.

You apply online to enlist in the Army in a recruiter's office?


Great Nepal wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Phones are not necessary, nor is a car or a computer. A house or a place to stay though I do agree that they are necessary.

I've not seen a single job advert that says anything other than fill out a form on this website, even if you go to a physical shop they give you a booklet with their application website where you go to fill out an application form. You might be able to feasibly do this without personal internet access/ computer if your local area has invested in libraries. Then if they want to take you, they call for preliminary screening - which is rather hard to achieve without a phone. Then they call you for the actual interview, which again is rather difficult without a phone.

That's if you can find out that they're hiring without looking it up online. You can go door to door asking places if they're hiring and handing out hand-written CVs, but you're not going to be able to hit a lot of places without a car.
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Postby Uxupox » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:08 am

Salandriagado wrote:


Expecting the government to hire the entire low-income population is not viable.


Didn't say that. Was mostly showing that alternatives exist.
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Postby Uxupox » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:09 am

Ifreann wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
They don't call you, you go directly to them and then go to MEPS.



A recruiter's office.

You apply online to enlist in the Army in a recruiter's office?


Great Nepal wrote:I've not seen a single job advert that says anything other than fill out a form on this website, even if you go to a physical shop they give you a booklet with their application website where you go to fill out an application form. You might be able to feasibly do this without personal internet access/ computer if your local area has invested in libraries. Then if they want to take you, they call for preliminary screening - which is rather hard to achieve without a phone. Then they call you for the actual interview, which again is rather difficult without a phone.

That's if you can find out that they're hiring without looking it up online. You can go door to door asking places if they're hiring and handing out hand-written CVs, but you're not going to be able to hit a lot of places without a car.


don't need to apply online to anything. Heck I don't know anybody who actually applied online for enlistment. Always was to show up either at the recruiter office or go to MEPS.
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Postby Salandriagado » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:18 am

Uxupox wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Expecting the government to hire the entire low-income population is not viable.


Didn't say that. Was mostly showing that alternatives exist.


OK then. Provide a private sector example that doesn't need a phone number and/or internet access.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:19 am

Uxupox wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:I've not seen a single job advert that says anything other than fill out a form on this website, even if you go to a physical shop they give you a booklet with their application website where you go to fill out an application form. You might be able to feasibly do this without personal internet access/ computer if your local area has invested in libraries. Then if they want to take you, they call for preliminary screening - which is rather hard to achieve without a phone. Then they call you for the actual interview, which again is rather difficult without a phone.


Well the instances that I did was years ago (11 years to be exact) so it might have changed but I honestly did get my first job without a phone in Wilco. Just filled an application and got told to show up at a certain date in a certain place.

Just looked up a entry level job at wilco; couldn't find anything about offline application forms (or application form download) so they likely stopped since handling paper application is far longer and laborious than using ATSs.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:21 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Didn't say that. Was mostly showing that alternatives exist.


OK then. Provide a private sector example that doesn't need a phone number and/or internet access.


I remember applying for a job at Home Depot, the lady who I was talking with said "Apply via the internet, that's how everyone does it.".

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:21 am

Uxupox wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You apply online to enlist in the Army in a recruiter's office?



That's if you can find out that they're hiring without looking it up online. You can go door to door asking places if they're hiring and handing out hand-written CVs, but you're not going to be able to hit a lot of places without a car.


don't need to apply online to anything. Heck I don't know anybody who actually applied online for enlistment. Always was to show up either at the recruiter office or go to MEPS.

How do you find either of those places without a phone or computer? How do you get there without a car?
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:22 am

Ifreann wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
don't need to apply online to anything. Heck I don't know anybody who actually applied online for enlistment. Always was to show up either at the recruiter office or go to MEPS.

How do you find either of those places without a phone or computer? How do you get there without a car?

no wonder our military is so expensive if people can just show up to MEPS without even the least bit of screening to find out of they are eligible or not.
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Postby Uxupox » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:24 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Well the instances that I did was years ago (11 years to be exact) so it might have changed but I honestly did get my first job without a phone in Wilco. Just filled an application and got told to show up at a certain date in a certain place.

Just looked up a entry level job at wilco; couldn't find anything about offline application forms (or application form download) so they likely stopped since handling paper application is far longer and laborious than using ATSs.


It's not that wilco it's a state level program designed for teens.
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Postby Uxupox » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:25 am

Ifreann wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
don't need to apply online to anything. Heck I don't know anybody who actually applied online for enlistment. Always was to show up either at the recruiter office or go to MEPS.

How do you find either of those places without a phone or computer? How do you get there without a car?


The recruiter has an obligation to get you there.

Ashmoria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How do you find either of those places without a phone or computer? How do you get there without a car?

no wonder our military is so expensive if people can just show up to MEPS without even the least bit of screening to find out of they are eligible or not.


The only screening you are gonna get is physical the rest is really easy even non-Americans can join the military.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:26 am

Does anyone else find it seriously ironic that Trump can call the mainstream media "fake news" while promising to find those leaking things to them in the same breath?

It's like a little kid who tells the principle that the claim about him "is completely false" and follows up with "plus Johnny promised not to tell".
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:28 am

Galloism wrote:Does anyone else find it seriously ironic that Trump can call the mainstream media "fake news" while promising to find those leaking things to them in the same breath?

It's like a little kid who tells the principle that the claim about him "is completely false" and follows up with "plus Johnny promised not to tell".


i just find it stupid and even more stupid that there are those who believe him.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:29 am

Uxupox wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How do you find either of those places without a phone or computer? How do you get there without a car?


The recruiter has an obligation to get you there.

Ashmoria wrote:no wonder our military is so expensive if people can just show up to MEPS without even the least bit of screening to find out of they are eligible or not.


The only screening you are gonna get is physical the rest is really easy even non-Americans can join the military.


they reject many many applicants.
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Postby Uxupox » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:30 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
The recruiter has an obligation to get you there.



The only screening you are gonna get is physical the rest is really easy even non-Americans can join the military.


they reject many many applicants.


well yes if you are physically/medically useless then you won't be able to join.
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