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Postby Alvecia » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:55 am

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:Honestly, of all the things I am laughing about now, Trump and his constant insecurity about his win and inauguration crowd size is probably the most hilarious.

I mean, he is on the phone with world leaders, and he is so compelled to talk about the size of his inauguration crowd? I wish I could have been in the room, just to see the look on Turnbull's face the entire time. Trump is just a toddler in a suit, with worse hair.

Gotta love how he has turned the GOP foreign policy basically on its head. Friendly with Russia, but ranting at Australia. The irony would be delicious if it wasn't so terrifying.

We knew he was a narcissist, but I don't think we ever really understood how much of a narcissist he actually is.
Honestly, I think the best form of protest against trump is to just turn up to anti-Trump protests. He'll be so busy throwing temper tantrums about how he's the best and most popular and how his inaugauration was the greatest that he'll won't be able to get anything else done.
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Postby Uxupox » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:55 am

Philjia wrote:
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From what I've read, the conspiracy theory about the election being rigged is really losing traction with supporters and Congress. He's shooting himself politically in the foot over it among those who -somehow - are more ambivalent to him. Now that he's President, people want to see results and not see him talk, endlessly, about himself. Now, for someone who watched his entire campaign, I knew he was going to spend all the time talking about himself. But some people didn't.

As for Australia, he's gotten himself into a major pickle. Autralia is seriously one of our best allies and partners in the world, and nobody has every had a problem with it ever. We also have a deal to take in refugees from them. If he honors the deal, he loses trump points from his fervent supporters for caving in to Australia of all places. If he goes back on the deal, he rather pointlessly nukes our relationship with Australia, and one of our closest allies. He even (allegedly) said as much to the Australian President, as he said taking them would be a political disaster for him.

Less than two weeks in, and Trump is learning that doing what you want doesn't work amazingly on the world stage.


If he does decide to take on China, he may be upset to see how many people back China over him.


Who is gonna back China specifically in Asia? Literally all of their neighbors hate them because of massive land disputes.
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Postby Philjia » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:57 am

Uxupox wrote:
Philjia wrote:
If he does decide to take on China, he may be upset to see how many people back China over him.


Who is gonna back China specifically in Asia? Literally all of their neighbors hate them because of massive land disputes.


However, there are plenty of western governments in deep with the Chinese, particularly the British.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:58 am

Philjia wrote:
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From what I've read, the conspiracy theory about the election being rigged is really losing traction with supporters and Congress. He's shooting himself politically in the foot over it among those who -somehow - are more ambivalent to him. Now that he's President, people want to see results and not see him talk, endlessly, about himself. Now, for someone who watched his entire campaign, I knew he was going to spend all the time talking about himself. But some people didn't.

As for Australia, he's gotten himself into a major pickle. Autralia is seriously one of our best allies and partners in the world, and nobody has every had a problem with it ever. We also have a deal to take in refugees from them. If he honors the deal, he loses trump points from his fervent supporters for caving in to Australia of all places. If he goes back on the deal, he rather pointlessly nukes our relationship with Australia, and one of our closest allies. He even (allegedly) said as much to the Australian President, as he said taking them would be a political disaster for him.

Less than two weeks in, and Trump is learning that doing what you want doesn't work amazingly on the world stage.


If he does decide to take on China, he may be upset to see how many people back China over him.

The US is at the level where that doesn't matter.
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Postby Uxupox » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:58 am

Philjia wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Who is gonna back China specifically in Asia? Literally all of their neighbors hate them because of massive land disputes.


However, there are plenty of western governments in deep with the Chinese, particularly the British.


The British abandoning NATO would be a sight to see.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:58 am

Philjia wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Who is gonna back China specifically in Asia? Literally all of their neighbors hate them because of massive land disputes.


However, there are plenty of western governments in deep with the Chinese, particularly the British.

wut
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Postby Great Franconia and Verana » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:00 am

Uxupox wrote:
Philjia wrote:
However, there are plenty of western governments in deep with the Chinese, particularly the British.


The British abandoning NATO would be a sight to see.

I can imagine Trump's first course amor action would be annexing his Scottish golf courses.

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Postby Philjia » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:01 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Philjia wrote:
However, there are plenty of western governments in deep with the Chinese, particularly the British.

wut


They're building a nuclear power station for us.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:02 am

Philjia wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:wut


They're building a nuclear power station for us.

That don't mean shit.
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Postby Philjia » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:02 am

Uxupox wrote:
Philjia wrote:
However, there are plenty of western governments in deep with the Chinese, particularly the British.


The British abandoning NATO would be a sight to see.


Trump's the one planning to abandon NATO.

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Postby Uxupox » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:03 am

Philjia wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:wut


They're building a nuclear power station for us.


And?

Philjia wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
The British abandoning NATO would be a sight to see.


Trump's the one planning to abandon NATO.


Good.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:11 am

Uxupox wrote:
Philjia wrote:
They're building a nuclear power station for us.


And?

Philjia wrote:
Trump's the one planning to abandon NATO.


Good.

Lol. As if NATO doesn't help America.
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Postby Uxupox » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:15 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
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And?



Good.

Lol. As if NATO doesn't help America.


It's an old entity that has only brought pain and suffering to other across the globe. As to your statement when in the last decade has NATO helped the United States in a meaningful manner? Ultimate it's cons out way its pros.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:31 am

Uxupox wrote:
Philjia wrote:
However, there are plenty of western governments in deep with the Chinese, particularly the British.


The British abandoning NATO would be a sight to see.

No, that's Trump's shitty idea.

The UK already went through with their shitty idea of leaving the EU (Should happen any day now...), we need our stupidity spotlight.
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Postby Uxupox » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:36 am

New haven america wrote:
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The British abandoning NATO would be a sight to see.

No, that's Trump's shitty idea.

The UK already went through with their shitty idea of leaving the EU (Should happen any day now...), we need our stupidity spotlight.


It's a resource of drain of massive proportions. Over $181 billion are lost annually just in maintaining American bases in Europe alone for literally no benefit whatsoever.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:39 am

Uxupox wrote:
New haven america wrote:No, that's Trump's shitty idea.

The UK already went through with their shitty idea of leaving the EU (Should happen any day now...), we need our stupidity spotlight.


It's a resource of drain of massive proportions. Over $181 billion are lost annually just in maintaining American bases in Europe alone for literally no benefit whatsoever.

... You are sounding so much like a Brexiter right now...
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Postby Seangoli » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:42 am

So Reuters is telling its reporters to act as though they are operating in an Authoritarian regime, and particularly use the skills and assets learned in places like Yemen, Iraq, and Iran when gathering information:

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/reuters ... l-threats/

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Postby Great Franconia and Verana » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:44 am

Seangoli wrote:So Reuters is telling its reporters to act as though they are operating in an Authoritarian regime, and particularly use the skills and assets learned in places like Yemen, Iraq, and Iran when gathering information:

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/reuters ... l-threats/

These skills will likely come in handy within the confines of the great Trumpenreich.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:55 am

Uxupox wrote:
Philjia wrote:
However, there are plenty of western governments in deep with the Chinese, particularly the British.


The British abandoning NATO would be a sight to see.


NATO doesn't cover the Pacific. In the same way the UK couldn't invoke the treaty during the Falklands.
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Postby Philjia » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:01 am

Seangoli wrote:So Reuters is telling its reporters to act as though they are operating in an Authoritarian regime, and particularly use the skills and assets learned in places like Yemen, Iraq, and Iran when gathering information:

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/reuters ... l-threats/


It'll be interesting to see if the AP, who are based in the US, will react in a similar way.

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:36 am

his scotus pick seems reasonable
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Postby Philjia » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:37 am

greed and death wrote:his scotus pick seems reasonable


Could be worse. He's merely a conservative, rather than insane.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:37 am

greed and death wrote:his scotus pick seems reasonable


How so?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:45 am

Vassenor wrote:
greed and death wrote:his scotus pick seems reasonable


How so?


From the looks of it he's more or less a not so vulgar Scalia. Not perfect by any means but he could be a lot worse.
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Postby Alvecia » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:51 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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How so?


From the looks of it he's more or less a not so vulgar Scalia. Not perfect by any means but he could be a lot worse.

Honestly, if with a Republican majority in government, just another Scalia is probably the best replacement for Scalia we could hope for.
However he is only 50, so we can look forward to his input for at least the next 3 decades.

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