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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:55 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837989835818287106

Trump is claiming Obama pulled a Nixon and wiretapped Trump before his election victory.



but how did he find out? breitbart?


*shrug*
He's the president.
Presumably they told him.
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Postby Sane Outcasts » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:55 am

Corrian wrote:My god, does he ever not act ridiculous? Does he ever realize there are bigger issues, like the fact his Attorney General may be shit? Deflecting I'm sure.

Remember all the good press he got after his speech to Congress about how Presidential he looked and sounded?

Couldn't just bask in it for a week.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:59 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
but how did he find out? breitbart?


*shrug*
He's the president.
Presumably they told him.

i posted his this morning tweets on the previous page.

he tweeted about the Russian ambassador, then wiretapping, then ambassador, then wiretapping, wiretapping, wiretapping, then celebrity apprentice.

that seems to me to be NOT the reaction of the most powerful man in the world being told by some official government guy that the previous president had been wiretapping him. THAT man would be too ballistic to tweet anything.
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Postby Corrian » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:00 am

Sane Outcasts wrote:
Corrian wrote:My god, does he ever not act ridiculous? Does he ever realize there are bigger issues, like the fact his Attorney General may be shit? Deflecting I'm sure.

Remember all the good press he got after his speech to Congress about how Presidential he looked and sounded?

Couldn't just bask in it for a week.

Of course he can't,
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:01 am

Corrian wrote:
Sane Outcasts wrote:Remember all the good press he got after his speech to Congress about how Presidential he looked and sounded?

Couldn't just bask in it for a week.

Of course he can't,


there is nothing more important to this administration than tamping down the Russia story.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:01 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837989835818287106

Trump is claiming Obama pulled a Nixon and wiretapped Trump before his election victory.

Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!

This is defamation. Obama should sue.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:03 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837989835818287106

Trump is claiming Obama pulled a Nixon and wiretapped Trump before his election victory.


This is defamation. Obama should sue.

he should !

ya know, trump tower has hundreds of occupants. in fact mr trump sold an entire floor to a Mafioso's girlfriend. maybe THAT suite was tapped.
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Postby Corrian » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:06 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837989835818287106

Trump is claiming Obama pulled a Nixon and wiretapped Trump before his election victory.


This is defamation. Obama should sue.

That would actually be hilarious.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:06 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:This is defamation. Obama should sue.

he should !

ya know, trump tower has hundreds of occupants. in fact mr trump sold an entire floor to a Mafioso's girlfriend. maybe THAT suite was tapped.

Maybe there was no wiretap and Trump has fallen for some nutty conspiracy.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:07 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:he should !

ya know, trump tower has hundreds of occupants. in fact mr trump sold an entire floor to a Mafioso's girlfriend. maybe THAT suite was tapped.

Maybe there was no wiretap and Trump has fallen for some nutty conspiracy.

maybe wiretapping and Arnold quitting the apprentice are equally important stories.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:14 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
but how did he find out? breitbart?


*shrug*
He's the president.
Presumably they told him.


Hope he has evidence. I never thought I'd count a presidency by the days, or the bottles.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:15 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:he should !

ya know, trump tower has hundreds of occupants. in fact mr trump sold an entire floor to a Mafioso's girlfriend. maybe THAT suite was tapped.

Maybe there was no wiretap and Trump has fallen for some nutty conspiracy.


Well, Bannon does have them.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:26 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
*shrug*
He's the president.
Presumably they told him.


Hope he has evidence. I never thought I'd count a presidency by the days, or the bottles.

99 bottles of beer on the wall,
99 bottles of beer.
Look at the news,
Trump still in charge.
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Postby Oneiro » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:51 am

Jarred and Ivanka taking the Sabbath off is really working out well for the president, isn't it?

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:52 am

Trump accusing Obama of wiretapping. Brace yourselves folks, we all know what this means.

Also, the most powerful individual in the nation and he still has to fixate on Ahnuld and the ratings of a show. Pathetic.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:56 am

Oneiro wrote:Jarred and Ivanka taking the Sabbath off is really working out well for the president, isn't it?

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:59 am

Oneiro wrote:Jarred and Ivanka taking the Sabbath off is really working out well for the president, isn't it?

they might need to get a special dispensation of some kind for the next 4 years. I'm sure their rabbi would agree to it.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:00 am

Gauthier wrote:Trump accusing Obama of wiretapping. Brace yourselves folks, we all know what this means.

Also, the most powerful individual in the nation and he still has to fixate on Ahnuld and the ratings of a show. Pathetic.


this tweet

Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!


makes it sound like it was a criminal or national security investigation.

trump needs to shut up before he brings down his own administration.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:02 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Oneiro wrote:Jarred and Ivanka taking the Sabbath off is really working out well for the president, isn't it?

they might need to get a special dispensation of some kind for the next 4 years. I'm sure their rabbi would agree to it.

I'm sure Jewish God will understand that some people really need to toil on the Sabbath.

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Postby Herskerstad » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:02 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:This is defamation. Obama should sue.

he should !

ya know, trump tower has hundreds of occupants. in fact mr trump sold an entire floor to a Mafioso's girlfriend. maybe THAT suite was tapped.


Short of clairvoyance we can't really claim anything yet.

If there was a wiretap, even for something like searching for Russian ties to a presidential candidate of the opposition party, then yes, that justification will probably not be enough to prevent the greatest political scandal in decades, in particular if said information was shared to either Obama or Clinton.

I mean given this is Trump and twitter I'd not be surprised if it was another tantrum, but, if there happens to have been intel gathering on him which the White House was privy towards then yes, it could very well become the biggest shitshow we have faced in some time, and it will not the the Republicans that are likely to suffer the consequences for it.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:03 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:they might need to get a special dispensation of some kind for the next 4 years. I'm sure their rabbi would agree to it.

I'm sure Jewish God will understand that some people really need to toil on the Sabbath.

the bible is really strict about it but surely there must be some exemptions
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:07 am

Herskerstad wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:he should !

ya know, trump tower has hundreds of occupants. in fact mr trump sold an entire floor to a Mafioso's girlfriend. maybe THAT suite was tapped.


Short of clairvoyance we can't really claim anything yet.

If there was a wiretap, even for something like searching for Russian ties to a presidential candidate of the opposition party, then yes, that justification will probably not be enough to prevent the greatest political scandal in decades, in particular if said information was shared to either Obama or Clinton.

I mean given this is Trump and twitter I'd not be surprised if it was another tantrum, but, if there happens to have been intel gathering on him which the White House was privy towards then yes, it could very well become the biggest shitshow we have faced in some time, and it will not the the Republicans that are likely to suffer the consequences for it.


it just seems like a bad can of worms to open. trump tower is a very big building with rich people from all over the world. there are plenty of opportunities for wiretaps in that population.

plus, presidents don't order wiretaps. they have to go through a warrant to a judge who OKs it on the basis of evidence and need. does trump want THAT warrant unsealed should it be HIM who was the target?
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Postby Herskerstad » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:15 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
Short of clairvoyance we can't really claim anything yet.

If there was a wiretap, even for something like searching for Russian ties to a presidential candidate of the opposition party, then yes, that justification will probably not be enough to prevent the greatest political scandal in decades, in particular if said information was shared to either Obama or Clinton.

I mean given this is Trump and twitter I'd not be surprised if it was another tantrum, but, if there happens to have been intel gathering on him which the White House was privy towards then yes, it could very well become the biggest shitshow we have faced in some time, and it will not the the Republicans that are likely to suffer the consequences for it.


it just seems like a bad can of worms to open. trump tower is a very big building with rich people from all over the world. there are plenty of opportunities for wiretaps in that population.

plus, presidents don't order wiretaps. they have to go through a warrant to a judge who OKs it on the basis of evidence and need. does trump want THAT warrant unsealed should it be HIM who was the target?


Sure, I am not saying that this is going to go beyond something that's entirely incidental and would not give information links that would in any way impact the race and target someone who was business related rather than political race-related, and it's not beyond Trump from blowing up on hearing such news either as it is a shitstorm that can be whipped up either way and will then result in the left seeing Trump as throwing another tantrum, and the right seeing the Dems as having abused some of the federal offices. It is what I'd expect given that this comes out on twitter rather than from the mouth of the DOJ himself which is how I'd expect such a thing to start.

However, if this is anything sort of super-sanitary and I would not be surprised if such is not the case, then Trump, now controlling the DOJ, will only be one immunity away from turning up the heat to the point something must happen.
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Postby Camicon » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:32 am

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Camicon wrote:Probably because there's nothing to read.

If there's nothing to read why not let people see it has nothing in it?

Because it would make Trump look like a moron without any inkling as to what he is doing, and he can't have that.
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