Trump MAGAThread IV: Twixt Scylla & Some Bad Hombres

[Alvecia]

By who? Who has access to Trump's tax returns? Trump himself, who obviously won't leak them. The IRS, likewise. Trump's favourite children? Trump's accountants?

I doubt he's leaving them lying around the White House where some cheeky civil servant could snap a few pics for twitter.

Say what you want about the IRS, but they have a pretty good track record of not giving a fuck.

If there were anything illegal going on, they'd be on top of it. Nothing short of institution-wide blackmail has stopped them before.

Are you kidding? There's literally an annual event where Churches break the Johnson Amendment and brag about it to the IRS. Pulpit Freedom Sunday they call it.
IRS can't and/or doesn't do shit.

[Post War America]

Say what you want about the IRS, but they have a pretty good track record of not giving a fuck.

If there were anything illegal going on, they'd be on top of it. Nothing short of institution-wide blackmail has stopped them before.

Sure, and while there may be nothing illegal about extensive financial ties to Russia for American entrepreneurs, it would certainly represent a dangerous conflict of interest in our president.

I just hope they finish up his audit so we can hear the President's new excuse for not releasing his tax returns.

[Sanctissima]

Say what you want about the IRS, but they have a pretty good track record of not giving a fuck.

If there were anything illegal going on, they'd be on top of it. Nothing short of institution-wide blackmail has stopped them before.

Sure, and while there may be nothing illegal about extensive financial ties to Russia for American entrepreneurs, it would certainly represent a dangerous conflict of interest in our president.

There's already a conflict of interest. Notice how Saudi Arabia, the leading exporter of terrorism, was conspicuously absent from the proposed immigration ban? I'm sure that had nothing to do with his vested business interests in the country.

Regardless, corruption is nothing new. Trump isn't the first president to let personal interests influence national policy, and he certainly won't be the last. And to be frank, I have no problem with that. So long as it doesn't become excessive, I really don't care.

[Alvecia]

Sure, and while there may be nothing illegal about extensive financial ties to Russia for American entrepreneurs, it would certainly represent a dangerous conflict of interest in our president.

I just hope they finish up his audit so we can hear the President's new excuse for not releasing his tax returns.

Haven't they already stated that he can release them even though the audit is ongoing? He lost that excuse during the campaign.

[Cymrea]

Sure, and while there may be nothing illegal about extensive financial ties to Russia for American entrepreneurs, it would certainly represent a dangerous conflict of interest in our president.

There's already a conflict of interest. Notice how Saudi Arabia, the leading exporter of terrorism, was conspicuously absent from the proposed immigration ban? I'm sure that had nothing to do with his vested business interests in the country.

Regardless, corruption is nothing new. Trump isn't the first president to let personal interests influence national policy, and he certainly won't be the last. And to be frank, I have no problem with that. So long as it doesn't become excessive, I really don't care.

I get the impression your definition of excessive may be more forgiving than mine with regard the dear leader.

[Valrifell]

Sure, and while there may be nothing illegal about extensive financial ties to Russia for American entrepreneurs, it would certainly represent a dangerous conflict of interest in our president.

There's already a conflict of interest. Notice how Saudi Arabia, the leading exporter of terrorism, was conspicuously absent from the proposed immigration ban? I'm sure that had nothing to do with his vested business interests in the country.

Regardless, corruption is nothing new. Trump isn't the first president to let personal interests influence national policy, and he certainly won't be the last. And to be frank, I have no problem with that. So long as it doesn't become excessive, I really don't care.

And it will continue to get worse and worse for more and more people because you and like minded people couldn't be bothered to spare a fuck for the rest of us.

[Post War America]

I just hope they finish up his audit so we can hear the President's new excuse for not releasing his tax returns.

Haven't they already stated that he can release them even though the audit is ongoing? He lost that excuse during the campaign.

It's a lame excuse yes, but I want to see the new one when they finish the audit.

[Fartsniffage]

Haven't they already stated that he can release them even though the audit is ongoing? He lost that excuse during the campaign.

It's a lame excuse yes, but I want to see the new one when they finish the audit.

It's already been made.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -wikileaks

[Ashmoria]

why would pence be impeached?

Why is impeachment needed ? Pence considers people who use their personal e-mailadress for state affairs to be incompetent, nay even criminally negligent bordering on treason.

So no doubt he will willingly step down after looking in the mirror.

pffft

the secretary of state has access to top secret classified information; the governor of Indiana is supposed to have no secrets from the public.

its really not the same thing.

[Ashmoria]

By who? Who has access to Trump's tax returns? Trump himself, who obviously won't leak them. The IRS, likewise. Trump's favourite children? Trump's accountants?

I doubt he's leaving them lying around the White House where some cheeky civil servant could snap a few pics for twitter.

So you're saying that if the IRS thought that Trump might betray the US, they still wouldn't leak his tax returns? I doubt that. If, on the other hand, it was about his legal tax evasion, then the IRS would most definitely not leak it, because if they did, Republicans would simply cut their staff in half, in the best case scenario.

when was the last time the IRS leaked anyone's return?

[Cymrea]

It's a lame excuse yes, but I want to see the new one when they finish the audit.

It's already been made.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -wikileaks

“Trump’s breach of promise over the release of his tax returns is even more gratuitous than Clinton concealing her Goldman Sachs transcripts.”

Eeyup.

[Ashmoria]

Sure, and while there may be nothing illegal about extensive financial ties to Russia for American entrepreneurs, it would certainly represent a dangerous conflict of interest in our president.

There's already a conflict of interest. Notice how Saudi Arabia, the leading exporter of terrorism, was conspicuously absent from the proposed immigration ban? I'm sure that had nothing to do with his vested business interests in the country.

Regardless, corruption is nothing new. Trump isn't the first president to let personal interests influence national policy, and he certainly won't be the last. And to be frank, I have no problem with that. So long as it doesn't become excessive, I really don't care.

Saudi arabia is our closest ally in the middle east after Israel. personal business has nothing to do with it

[Post War America]

It's a lame excuse yes, but I want to see the new one when they finish the audit.

It's already been made.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -wikileaks

An even better excuse. Nobody cares indeed. I kinda want to see a petition make it to the White House just to see the next god awful excuse POTUS has.

[Ashmoria]

Haven't they already stated that he can release them even though the audit is ongoing? He lost that excuse during the campaign.

It's a lame excuse yes, but I want to see the new one when they finish the audit.

there isn't even any proof that he is under audit.

[Cymrea]

It's a lame excuse yes, but I want to see the new one when they finish the audit.

there isn't even any proof that he is under audit.

Or that he isn't still violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution.

[Ashmoria]

there isn't even any proof that he is under audit.

Or that he isn't still violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution.

he got one the other day in the form of his name copyright in china--something he had been unsuccessfully working on getting for YEARS--then immediately went back to the 1 china policy

not that it was a quid pro quo or anything.

[Ifreann]

By who? Who has access to Trump's tax returns? Trump himself, who obviously won't leak them. The IRS, likewise. Trump's favourite children? Trump's accountants?

I doubt he's leaving them lying around the White House where some cheeky civil servant could snap a few pics for twitter.

So you're saying that if the IRS thought that Trump might betray the US, they still wouldn't leak his tax returns? I doubt that.

Based on what? Does the IRS have some reputation for only hiring the most conscientious of people, of whom any one would gladly break the law and release private information about an American citizen if they felt doing so was in the best interests of the American people?

If, on the other hand, it was about his legal tax evasion, then the IRS would most definitely not leak it, because if they did, Republicans would simply cut their staff in half, in the best case scenario.

So what you're telling me is that the IRS would definitely leak Trump's tax returns if there was anything in them that would damage Trump, unless it's just Trump avoiding taxes as far as he possibly can, because if they leaked that damaging information about Trump then they'd probably be fired. But they would totally not fear for their jobs if there were any other damaging information.

[Corrian]

Some The Onion's Paul Ryan, which has been pretty perfect.

[Sunstruck]

Sure, and while there may be nothing illegal about extensive financial ties to Russia for American entrepreneurs, it would certainly represent a dangerous conflict of interest in our president.

There's already a conflict of interest. Notice how Saudi Arabia, the leading exporter of terrorism, was conspicuously absent from the proposed immigration ban? I'm sure that had nothing to do with his vested business interests in the country.

Regardless, corruption is nothing new. Trump isn't the first president to let personal interests influence national policy, and he certainly won't be the last. And to be frank, I have no problem with that. So long as it doesn't become excessive, I really don't care.

Americans have become really desensitized politically recently, I've noticed.
edit: before anyone says anything, no not all of them

[Unrepentant Piracy]

There's already a conflict of interest. Notice how Saudi Arabia, the leading exporter of terrorism, was conspicuously absent from the proposed immigration ban? I'm sure that had nothing to do with his vested business interests in the country.

Regardless, corruption is nothing new. Trump isn't the first president to let personal interests influence national policy, and he certainly won't be the last. And to be frank, I have no problem with that. So long as it doesn't become excessive, I really don't care.

Americans have become really desensitized politically recently, I've noticed.
edit: before anyone says anything, no not all of them

In my experience, it's more that we've all made up our minds about things.

Some people think Democrats are bad, and that's that. Likewise, some feel that way about Republicans.
Many feel the government can't be trusted, and everything political is a show, or a scam, or a circus of lies, and that's that.
Basically, in my mind, I'm seeing that people have given up on changing anything through the democratic process.

If that translated into a desire to take alternative steps to enact change, I'd be happy, but all it seems to have accomplished is we've lost all hope.

[Corrian]

You know, if you go off of ISideWith, I agree with Trump more then almost any of the other Republicans that ran, yet somehow I'd almost prefer some of them just because of Trump's ridiculuos nature. The one I agree with the highest of the candidates is Rand Paul...at 26%.

Apparently I now agree with Bernie 100% (I haven't updated, so maybe there are more issues. It used to be 98% so it clearly shifted somewhat), which isn't entirely accurate as there are some key issues I disagree with, but I do agree with him the vast majority of the time.

Also, as parties go, Democrats are my 3rd highest, behind the Green's and Socialists.

Republicans are the lowest.

[Gauthier]

It's already been made.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -wikileaks

“Trump’s breach of promise over the release of his tax returns is even more gratuitous than Clinton concealing her Goldman Sachs transcripts.”

Eeyup.

Putinleaks is pissed they got stiffed by Trump just like numerous ordinary people. Ha.

[Corrian]

Also, lul at Mike Pence having used a worse email server than Clinton.

[Great Franconia and Verana]

Also, lul at Mike Pence having used a worse email server than Clinton.

If this steady stream of hypocrisy continues, we all may be desensitized by the end of this.
I'd like to see how the GOP wiggles out of this one.

[The Alma Mater]

Also, lul at Mike Pence having used a worse email server than Clinton.

If this steady stream of hypocrisy continues, we all may be desensitized by the end of this.
I'd like to see how the GOP wiggles out of this one.

They no doubt have a plan. Pence is not an imbecile; he no doubt knew that one day people would learn he did the same thing he roasted Hillary for.
So he prepared. I am curious to see what.