Trump MAGAThread IV: Twixt Scylla & Some Bad Hombres

[Rio Cana]

Thats why you have border controls. It creates added costs to production process from smuggling allowing a domestic industry which that can compete legally would drive them out of business.

And how do intend to stop boats and planes, already a popular smuggling method, therefore, probably not one that fucks with costs too much

Did you happen to see the following Mexican commercial from Aeromexico - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8vDwiwlnmI

[The East Marches]

Then why bother legalizing it in the first place if it is still going to cause an outflow of money from the States? That was one the biggest selling points I heard from people on the matter. Canada border wall soon.

Do you know what this is?

This is the peace arch, commemorating the signing of the Treaty of Ghent in 1814. It's gates have never been closed for over 200 years.

The inscription on the US side of the Peace Arch reads "Children of a common mother", and the words on the Canadian side read "Brethren dwelling together in unity".

And we have worked together. We have fought the Nazis together. We played together. We love you, and for the past 200 years, you have loved us.

Why shut us off now? We still love you.

Why close the gates?

Because you are costing us money in this theoretical scenario. Holla holla get that dolla.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I'm not border control but I did like their electronic system they were thinking about doing before all this wall non-sense. Systems that have layers work best. It is artificial subsidization of an industry to get it on its feet but the end result will be one more worthwhile and profitable.

Which does what exactly?

Using multiple layers means you use more than one form of security to protect from smuggling and other threats.

Works well if properly implemented (say, electronic and manual checks of shipments and imports).

I mean, we already have curbed most illegal shipment (as stupid as the regulations for legal customs permitted into the country are) from airports and the TSA does a good job at not letting much slip past the cracks. We can do the same with ship cargo.

[Thermodolia]

Then why bother legalizing it in the first place if it is still going to cause an outflow of money from the States? That was one the biggest selling points I heard from people on the matter. Canada border wall soon.

Do you know what this is?

This is the peace arch, commemorating the signing of the Treaty of Ghent in 1814. It's gates have never been closed for over 200 years.

The inscription on the US side of the Peace Arch reads "Children of a common mother", and the words on the Canadian side read "Brethren dwelling together in unity".

And we have worked together. We have fought the Nazis together. We played together. We love you, and for the past 200 years, you have loved us.

Why shut us off now? We still love you.

Why close the gates?

You gave us Ted Cruz and Justin Bieber

[Gauthier]

Deploy a naval group around the coasts obviously. *nod*

With a defeatist position and refusing to fight obviously *nod*

Oh right, Prohibition was a complete success.

[The East Marches]

Increases costs. Your goal to make smuggling have added costs which give domestic industry starting up an advantage as they have lower overall costs. Its basic business stuff.

No what does the system do

This one is more manpower intensive than the one who could build. This is the sort of system I am talking about.

[Tekeristan]

We must ban our citizens from touring the world!
*Slippery slope, but the idea is the same - 'outflow'*

Currency outflows from failures in trade which could be avoided if we have the edge in efficiency (which we do in farming), should be avoided. Losing money needlessly is retarded.

But heroin?
Quality, availability, and safety is a measure worth counting. Legal businesses have the advantages of being able to advertise themselves, regulated to be safe, add in proper ways to actually fight drugs (Dang Drug 'war'), should clear pretty quick.

Importing isn't terrible.

[The East Marches]

With a defeatist position and refusing to fight obviously *nod*

Oh right, Prohibition was a complete success.

So was just rolling over the opposition. A total success right? Its that sort of attitude which has seeped into your positions on things. Cheer up my man.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Better, more stringent checks on shipments?

How do you check the shipments on a crappy little private plane that flew from Nicaragua and landed in the middle of nowhere.

If your shipment is so small that it fits on a crappy little airplane, then you'll have problems remaining competitive in a place where X drug is legal and you don't have much incentive to slap a "sin profit margin" to your drug.

[Thermodolia]

With a defeatist position and refusing to fight obviously *nod*

Oh right, Prohibition was a complete success.

From a certain point of view

[Cymrea]

Gun laws don't stop criminals from getting guns, rape laws don't stop white college kids from raping unconscious girls in alleys...a wall won't keep Mexicans out, just cost a fuckton of money that Americans will end up paying for.

You might want to re-read that.

Balls. I misread.

[The East Marches]

Currency outflows from failures in trade which could be avoided if we have the edge in efficiency (which we do in farming), should be avoided. Losing money needlessly is retarded.

But heroin?
Quality, availability, and safety is a measure worth counting. Legal businesses have the advantages of being able to advertise themselves, add in proper ways to actually fight drugs (Dang Drug 'war'), should clear pretty quick.

Importing isn't terrible.

But hey, free market? Or do you prefer.

I am not a pure free marketeer by any means. Quality, availability and safety could be stifled if the cost of the illegal stuff is still less than the cost of the legal. The goal is to detach them from the current supply system and get them on another while putting money in our own pockets.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Then why bother legalizing it in the first place if it is still going to cause an outflow of money from the States? That was one the biggest selling points I heard from people on the matter. Canada border wall soon.

Do you know what this is?

This is the peace arch, commemorating the signing of the Treaty of Ghent in 1814. It's gates have never been closed for over 200 years.

The inscription on the US side of the Peace Arch reads "Children of a common mother", and the words on the Canadian side read "Brethren dwelling together in unity".

And we have worked together. We have fought the Nazis together. We played together. We love you, and for the past 200 years, you have loved us.

Why shut us off now? We still love you.

Why close the gates?

Don't even make me start listing things we have had to tolerate from Canadians.

Just Ted Cruz was enough proof you just love to torture us.

[Thermodolia]

But heroin?
Quality, availability, and safety is a measure worth counting. Legal businesses have the advantages of being able to advertise themselves, add in proper ways to actually fight drugs (Dang Drug 'war'), should clear pretty quick.

Importing isn't terrible.

But hey, free market? Or do you prefer.

I am not a pure free marketeer by any means. Quality, availability and safety could be stifled if the cost of the illegal stuff is still less than the cost of the legal. The goal is to detach them from the current supply system and get them on another while putting money in our own pockets.

Nationalization then

[Tekeristan]

But heroin?
Quality, availability, and safety is a measure worth counting. Legal businesses have the advantages of being able to advertise themselves, add in proper ways to actually fight drugs (Dang Drug 'war'), should clear pretty quick.

Importing isn't terrible.

But hey, free market? Or do you prefer.

I am not a pure free marketeer by any means. Quality, availability and safety could be stifled if the cost of the illegal stuff is still less than the cost of the legal. The goal is to detach them from the current supply system and get them on another while putting money in our own pockets.

How will the illegal crop compare to the legal crop?
The illegal crop has to sneak itself across borders, it can't openly advertize, it has to combat against police and carries a shady title.

[Internationalist Bastard]

No what does the system do

This one is more manpower intensive than the one who could build. This is the sort of system I am talking about.

And the planes?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Do you know what this is?

(Image)

This is the peace arch, commemorating the signing of the Treaty of Ghent in 1814. It's gates have never been closed for over 200 years.

The inscription on the US side of the Peace Arch reads "Children of a common mother", and the words on the Canadian side read "Brethren dwelling together in unity".

And we have worked together. We have fought the Nazis together. We played together. We love you, and for the past 200 years, you have loved us.

Why shut us off now? We still love you.

Why close the gates?

Because you are costing us money in this theoretical scenario. Holla holla get that dolla.

And you would be wasting money and throwing away tourist dollars via park maintenance.

You like capitalism right? Legalise maryjain and compete.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Do you know what this is?

This is the peace arch, commemorating the signing of the Treaty of Ghent in 1814. It's gates have never been closed for over 200 years.

The inscription on the US side of the Peace Arch reads "Children of a common mother", and the words on the Canadian side read "Brethren dwelling together in unity".

And we have worked together. We have fought the Nazis together. We played together. We love you, and for the past 200 years, you have loved us.

Why shut us off now? We still love you.

Why close the gates?

Don't even make me start listing things we have had to tolerate from Canadians.

Just Ted Cruz was enough proof you just love to torture us.

Hey man, I didn't send Ted down to you, he went there himself.

[The East Marches]

This one is more manpower intensive than the one who could build. This is the sort of system I am talking about.

And the planes?

[Thermodolia]

Because you are costing us money in this theoretical scenario. Holla holla get that dolla.

And you would be wasting money and throwing away tourist dollars via park maintenance.

You like capitalism right? Legalise maryjain and compete.

In this scenario we've already done that and more

[The East Marches]

I am not a pure free marketeer by any means. Quality, availability and safety could be stifled if the cost of the illegal stuff is still less than the cost of the legal. The goal is to detach them from the current supply system and get them on another while putting money in our own pockets.

How will the illegal crop compare to the legal crop?
The illegal crop has to sneak itself across borders, it can't openly advertize, it has to combat against police and carries a shady title.

Yes and border enforcement is part of that police effort adding the costs. Thats the whole point of it.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Do you know what this is?

This is the peace arch, commemorating the signing of the Treaty of Ghent in 1814. It's gates have never been closed for over 200 years.

The inscription on the US side of the Peace Arch reads "Children of a common mother", and the words on the Canadian side read "Brethren dwelling together in unity".

And we have worked together. We have fought the Nazis together. We played together. We love you, and for the past 200 years, you have loved us.

Why shut us off now? We still love you.

Why close the gates?

You gave us Ted Cruz and Justin Bieber

We also gave you Rush.

[Thermodolia]

Don't even make me start listing things we have had to tolerate from Canadians.

Just Ted Cruz was enough proof you just love to torture us.

Hey man, I didn't send Ted down to you, he went there himself.

Y'all didn't keep him in Canada

[Internationalist Bastard]

And the planes?

Lovely.
I think I'm done for now

[Thermodolia]

And the planes?

That wouldn't cause an international crisis at all.