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Postby Italios » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:32 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
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But you just said hitting your wife was acceptable

Very lightly.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:33 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:For some reason your President seems intent on antagonising Australia. After threatening to scrap the Visa Waiver Program for Australians he has now disrespected our Head of Government in a deeply offensive phone call. Trump forgets the key role Australia plays in safeguarding American foreign policy in the Pacific. If he continues this sort of erratic and offensive behaviour (and more importantly policies) we can expect the impotent Liberal government to collapse. The Labor government that will take its place may well continue to play on a growing anti-American sentiment within the country and expel your troops and revoke many of your privileges.

It should have been one of the most congenial calls for the new commander in chief — a conversation with the leader of Australia, one of America’s staunchest allies, at the end of a triumphant week.

Instead, President Trump blasted Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull over a refu­gee agreement and boasted about the magnitude of his electoral college win, according to senior U.S. officials briefed on the Saturday exchange. Then, 25 minutes into what was expected to be an hour-long call, Trump abruptly ended it.

At one point Trump informed Turnbull that he had spoken with four other world leaders that day — including Russian President Vladi­mir Putin — and that “This was the worst call by far.”


America has been taking Australian loyalty for granted for far too long. While previous governments paid lip service and at least feigned respect, the current administration is acting more and more like an openly imperial power and treating our nation more and more like a vassal state. The silver lining is that for patriots like myself, this provides the opportunity for Australia to regain it's independence once and for all.


Weren't you defending Trump before?
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:33 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:For some reason your President seems intent on antagonising Australia. After threatening to scrap the Visa Waiver Program for Australians he has now disrespected our Head of Government in a deeply offensive phone call. Trump forgets the key role Australia plays in safeguarding American foreign policy in the Pacific. If he continues this sort of erratic and offensive behaviour (and more importantly policies) we can expect the impotent Liberal government to collapse. The Labor government that will take its place may well continue to play on a growing anti-American sentiment within the country and expel your troops and revoke many of your privileges.



America has been taking Australian loyalty for granted for far too long. While previous governments paid lip service and at least feigned respect, the current administration is acting more and more like an openly imperial power and treating our nation more and more like a vassal state. The silver lining is that for patriots like myself, this provides the opportunity for Australia to regain it's independence once and for all.


Weren't you defending Trump before?

When was I defending Trump?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:34 pm

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Vassenor wrote:So where were all the second amendment people when the "don't do anything that could be construed as free speech" stuff was happening?

Not giving a shit about hippies being denied free speech probably.


I've been complaining about it for a long time, sadly it's not something many people seem to care about.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:34 pm

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Well, do you agree detaining dual citizens, permanent residents, and other visa holders and denying them access to an attorney in direct defiance of a federal court order to halt a travel ban that affects these people because of how hamfisted the measure was? Oh, and let's not forget the kicker: detaining these people without due process is against the 14th amendment's due process clause.

As a gun owner, Big Jim should be terrified at this development - I am.

We're detaining people based on the possibility that some infinitesimally small number of them might become violent and kill people at some indeterminate future time.

If that doesn't scare gun rights advocates, they're not fucking paying attention. Arguments like this are already being used, and succeeding. You're empowering our own disarmament.


Well, this IS fucking terrifying.

Imagine someone who is an extremist about gun control passing a blanket ban on guns as an EO *shudders*
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Postby Lady Scylla » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:34 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
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I love how Trump's #1 priority is his supporters turning on him and killing him.


Huh, I sure hope he loves the backlash when our breakfast media start to talk shit about him.

Perhaps sunrise will have something more entertaining than their cash cow.


I'm going to love TeamSpeak with my Aussie friends later. :lol2:
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:34 pm

Galloism wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Well, do you agree detaining dual citizens, permanent residents, and other visa holders and denying them access to an attorney in direct defiance of a federal court order to halt a travel ban that affects these people because of how hamfisted the measure was? Oh, and let's not forget the kicker: detaining these people without due process is against the 14th amendment's due process clause.

As a gun owner, Big Jim should be terrified at this development - I am.

We're detaining people based on the possibility that some infinitesimally small number of them might become violent and kill people at some indeterminate future time.

If that doesn't scare gun rights advocates, they're not fucking paying attention. Arguments like this are already being used, and succeeding. You're empowering our own disarmament.

Classic case of Somebody Else's Problem.
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Postby Uxupox » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:35 pm

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Nope.

And I would say cooperation in the Drug WAR and the billions of dollars made from selling weapons to them over the years would fall into military cooperation.


Cooperation? The FBI, US marshal's and the DEA do whatever the fuck they want across the border and the Mexican government's protest falls on deaf ears. If selling weapons would make us allies then wouldn't it also make the cartels our dubious allies as well?
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Postby Lady Scylla » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:35 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Weren't you defending Trump before?

When was I defending Trump?


I take it that is a no.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:35 pm

Maichuko wrote:Apparently Trump was negotiating some sort of refugee deal with Australia. Instead he accused them of trying to export the next Boston bombers Saw no point in honoring a deal Obama made, and treated him like he did the Mexican president. So yay another Close ally he's alienating.

Re-negotiating a previous agreement.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:35 pm

Gauthier wrote:

What could be the smallest, most painful Australian wildlife they can send to Trump?

Probably the Irukandji.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:36 pm

Sarigen wrote:I don't like many of his policy ideas, and worry about what his plans for trade will do to Canada; with Canada being my own Country.

It also seems candidly strange that all the Christians and conservatives are supporting trump. He's had multiple divorces, made crude comments while married, couldn't think of a favourite part of the Bible. It's just really strange to me.

I doubt the world will end, but I'll be surprised (although perhaps pleasantly so), if Trump is a good president that is loved enough to be re-elected.

The answer is who Trump named as VP, Mike Pence. Any more devout and he'd be a mega church pastor.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:36 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
Gauthier wrote:What could be the smallest, most painful Australian wildlife they can send to Trump?


....WTF

I doubt the Australian government would send him anything. Might be considered animal cruelty.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:36 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:And I would say cooperation in the Drug WAR and the billions of dollars made from selling weapons to them over the years would fall into military cooperation.


Cooperation? The FBI, US marshal's and the DEA do whatever the fuck they want across the border and the Mexican government's protest falls on deaf ears. If selling weapons would make us allies then wouldn't it also make the cartels our dubious allies as well?


Worked well for the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, and us. :roll:
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:36 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:When was I defending Trump?


I take it that is a no.

I am a communist. Trump is the enemy. America is the enemy. Trump's America is doubly an enemy.
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Postby Seangoli » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:37 pm

Not content with being a complete ass to our biggest trade partners to the South, Trump also has decided that our staunchest allies need to be berated and treated like shit:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... b850019055

I really don't know what the hell his problem is at this point. For fuck's sake, we have never had a problem with Australia and Trump has decided that we do.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:37 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
I take it that is a no.

I am a communist. Trump is the enemy. America is the enemy. Trump's America is doubly an enemy.


Well, that was even more surprising.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:37 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
I take it that is a no.

I am a communist. Trump is the enemy. America is the enemy. Trump's America is doubly an enemy.


Sounds like you need 10 tons of precision guided freedom there friendo.
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Postby Romalae » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:37 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
I take it that is a no.

I am a communist. Trump is the enemy. America is the enemy. Trump's America is doubly an enemy.

Didn't even know they had commies down under. :D
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:37 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:I am a communist. Trump is the enemy. America is the enemy. Trump's America is doubly an enemy.


Well, that was even more surprising.

That I'm a communist? How is this surprising?
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:39 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:I am a communist. Trump is the enemy. America is the enemy. Trump's America is doubly an enemy.


Sounds like you need 10 tons of precision guided freedom there friendo.

Given your track record everywhere else in the world I'm expecting that "freedom" to take ten years and never show up.
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Postby Uxupox » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:39 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
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Cooperation? The FBI, US marshal's and the DEA do whatever the fuck they want across the border and the Mexican government's protest falls on deaf ears. If selling weapons would make us allies then wouldn't it also make the cartels our dubious allies as well?


Worked well for the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, and us. :roll:


Not to mention the Colombian death squads that ran around supported by us.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:39 pm

Romalae wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:I am a communist. Trump is the enemy. America is the enemy. Trump's America is doubly an enemy.

Didn't even know they had commies down under. :D

Probably more so than the US per capita.
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Postby Balkenreich » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:39 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Weren't you defending Trump before?

When was I defending Trump?

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