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Boy Scouts of America to begin accepting transgender boys

Postby Socialist Nordia » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:42 pm

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/u ... oogle.com/

http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/ ... an-n714926

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... ender-boys

Well, this is surprisingly good news. The Boy Scouts are now finally dropping their discriminatory policy against transgender individuals. FtM aspiring Boy Scouts will now get the chance to join like everyone else.

What is your opinion NSG? A good step forward or not?
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Postby Dytarma » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:43 pm

I find this a step in the right direction. Now, if this grows to include girls, then I may have a problem...
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Postby Furbish Islands » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:44 pm

It took them that long to finally do that?


Well at least that's another step in the right direction.
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Postby Rutthenia » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:44 pm

It's pretty much accepting a select group of girls into the Boy Scouts now. Not too fond of the idea.
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Postby Escocaria » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:44 pm

Okay, don't get your panties/boxers in a twist but please remind me, which one is a Transgender male? The one with the synthetic penis or synthetic boobs? I've never kept up with the whole transgender thing so I get confused occasionally.

Serious question by the way.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:45 pm

This is better, but they still have to get rid of that archaic policy of excluding non-religious boys.
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Postby Rutthenia » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:45 pm

Escocaria wrote:Okay, don't get your panties/boxers in a twist but please remind me, which one is a Transgender male? The one with the synthetic penis or synthetic boobs? I've never kept up with the whole transgender thing so I get confused occasionally.

Serious question by the way.

The first one. Glad I'm not the only one confused by those terms.
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Postby Gatito » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:45 pm

Escocaria wrote:Okay, don't get your panties/boxers in a twist but please remind me, which one is a Transgender male? The one with the synthetic penis or synthetic boobs? I've never kept up with the whole transgender thing so I get confused occasionally.

Serious question by the way.

Male to female = Transgender female

Female to male = Transgender male

The specified gender is what they currently are, rather than what they previously were.
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Postby United Socialist Ecuador » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:46 pm

Dytarma wrote:I find this a step in the right direction. Now, if this grows to include girls, then I may have a problem...

Yes I completely agree with you!
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Yes it does say Boy Scouts, but it could turn to just Child Scouts, or Junior Scouts, or just plain Scouts?
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United Socialist Ecuador wrote:
Dytarma wrote:I find this a step in the right direction. Now, if this grows to include girls, then I may have a problem...

Yes I completely agree with you!
Change is coming in good and bad ways, and we will see the future in many ways.
Yes it does say Boy Scouts, but it could turn to just Child Scouts, or Junior Scouts, or just plain Scouts?

Maybe Boy Scouts can merge with Girl Scouts.

It will solve transgender problems
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:47 pm

Rutthenia wrote:It's pretty much accepting a select group of girls into the Boy Scouts now. Not too fond of the idea.

Why do you view transgender males as "a select group of girls"? They clearly don't see in that way.
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Postby Escocaria » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:48 pm

Dytarma wrote:I find this a step in the right direction. Now, if this grows to include girls, then I may have a problem...

That's a bit hypocritical in my humble opinion.

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Escocaria wrote:Okay, don't get your panties/boxers in a twist but please remind me, which one is a Transgender male? The one with the synthetic penis or synthetic boobs? I've never kept up with the whole transgender thing so I get confused occasionally.

Serious question by the way.

Male to female = Transgender female

Female to male = Transgender male

The specified gender is what they currently are, rather than what they previously were.

Thank you, dear user, for clearing that one up.
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United Socialist Ecuador wrote:
Dytarma wrote:I find this a step in the right direction. Now, if this grows to include girls, then I may have a problem...

Yes I completely agree with you!
Change is coming in good and bad ways, and we will see the future in many ways.
Yes it does say Boy Scouts, but it could turn to just Child Scouts, or Junior Scouts, or just plain Scouts?

Being a Boy Scout myself, It goes from Cub Scouts to Boy Scouts, though their are other variants, such as Venture Scouts and Sea Scouts.
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United Socialist Ecuador wrote:Yes I completely agree with you!
Change is coming in good and bad ways, and we will see the future in many ways.
Yes it does say Boy Scouts, but it could turn to just Child Scouts, or Junior Scouts, or just plain Scouts?

Maybe Boy Scouts can merge with Girl Scouts.

It will solve transgender problems

Yeah, but it would be uncomfortable for the girls maybe due to them showering with boys on camping trips. I should know, I am currently a Boy Scout.
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United Socialist Ecuador wrote:Yes I completely agree with you!
Change is coming in good and bad ways, and we will see the future in many ways.
Yes it does say Boy Scouts, but it could turn to just Child Scouts, or Junior Scouts, or just plain Scouts?

Being a Boy Scout myself, It goes from Cub Scouts to Boy Scouts, though their are other variants, such as Venture Scouts and Sea Scouts.
Furbish Islands wrote:Maybe Boy Scouts can merge with Girl Scouts.

It will solve transgender problems

Yeah, but it would be uncomfortable for the girls maybe due to them showering with boys on camping trips. I should know, I am currently a Boy Scout.

Really? Well I don't know the maximum age but okay. Well they could separate the bathrooms, the showers and more.
Yes it would be uncomfortable, but someday we could find a solution to that!
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Postby Central European Commonwealth » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:54 pm

Dytarma wrote:Yeah, but it would be uncomfortable for the girls maybe due to them showering with boys on camping trips. I should know, I am currently a Boy Scout.


Not really. When I went to scouting in the Netherlands around 1990 it was already mixed. Noone gives a damn about it.
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Postby Brisketistan » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:55 pm

As a scout myself, I can say this is not your pussyfooted "progressiveness". This is a breach of heritage and tradition. Dammit, this is BSA!

To hell with what my beloved brotherhood has become. Soon as I earn Eagle in April, I'm leaving. No involvement in the troop afterward. If this is what's happened to the BSA, that we've begun to become soft and watered-down PC libtards running national council, I will not subject my troop nor my Area Council to this idiocy. I have spent 11 years in CSA/BSA, not once before now did anyone even think of letting these trannies into Scouting. Keep your social politics out of my program.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:55 pm

Escocaria wrote:Okay, don't get your panties/boxers in a twist but please remind me, which one is a Transgender male? The one with the synthetic penis or synthetic boobs? I've never kept up with the whole transgender thing so I get confused occasionally.

Serious question by the way.

A transgender male is someone who was born female but us mentally a male while a transgender woman is the opposite. Though in my mind they are men and women
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Postby The Portland Territory » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:55 pm

Scout here, hello, how you doing?

Um, just saying, at least in my troops, the ban was never enforced. Also, there better not be any creeps in this because the whole purpose to keep boys and girls separated in Scouts is because of...... well.......... you get the gist.
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Postby Maichuko » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:56 pm

I'm confused are these girls saying there boys or boys saying there girls?
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Postby The Portland Territory » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:56 pm

Brisketistan wrote:As a scout myself, I can say this is not your pussyfooted "progressiveness". This is a breach of heritage and tradition. Dammit, this is BSA!

To hell with what my beloved brotherhood has become. Soon as I earn Eagle in April, I'm leaving. No involvement in the troop afterward. If this is what's happened to the BSA, that we've begun to become soft and watered-down PC libtards running national council. I have spent 11 years in CSA/BSA, not once before now did anyone even think of letting these trannies into Scouting. Keep your social politics out of my program.

Hey man, we can't do much. There probably wont be too many joining, though, because it's still "Discriminative" against girls.
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United Socialist Ecuador wrote:
Dytarma wrote:I find this a step in the right direction. Now, if this grows to include girls, then I may have a problem...

Yes I completely agree with you!
Change is coming in good and bad ways, and we will see the future in many ways.
Yes it does say Boy Scouts, but it could turn to just Child Scouts, or Junior Scouts, or just plain Scouts?

Most other nations just have a co-ed scouts programs I don't know why we can't have that
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Postby The Portland Territory » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:57 pm

Maichuko wrote:I'm confused are these girls saying there boys or boys saying there girls?

Girls saying boys, though I think it'll be stretched even more.
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United Socialist Ecuador wrote:
Dytarma wrote:Being a Boy Scout myself, It goes from Cub Scouts to Boy Scouts, though their are other variants, such as Venture Scouts and Sea Scouts.

Yeah, but it would be uncomfortable for the girls maybe due to them showering with boys on camping trips. I should know, I am currently a Boy Scout.

Really? Well I don't know the maximum age but okay. Well they could separate the bathrooms, the showers and more.
Yes it would be uncomfortable, but someday we could find a solution to that!

The maximum age is 18, and I guess they could do that.
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Dytarma wrote:Yeah, but it would be uncomfortable for the girls maybe due to them showering with boys on camping trips. I should know, I am currently a Boy Scout.


Not really. When I went to scouting in the Netherlands around 1990 it was already mixed. Noone gives a damn about it.

Yeah, but that's the Netherlands! They too high to make right choices! And besides, in America, a parent wouldn't simply say, "Alright Jessica, I'll let you go to a camp with a lot of teenage boys!"
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Postby New haven america » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:00 pm

Dytarma wrote:I find this a step in the right direction. Now, if this grows to include girls, then I may have a problem...

Uh, girls already have their own group, they're called Girl Scouts...
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