Trump v. Bush

by **Vassenor** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:43 pm

Traxa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You mean that thing that isn't actually being reported anywhere or said by anyone?

Bush never went on public tirades whenever anyone suggested that he wasn't universally loved by everyone. He didn't attribute his failing to win the popular vote to widespread fraud. His staff didn't try to pass off old photos to make his crowds look bigger or bus in cheerleaders to give him standing ovations at speeches. He didn't run on a platform aimed at fuelling hate and division within the country.

So yes, I prefer Bush.

This is why no one takes you seriously must be nice living in that fantasy land of yours.

Hillary clinton said president trump would be a russian puppet in the white house, Keith Olbermann called president Trump a russian whore, as well as a puppet, and said the USA has been taken over by a russian coup. Trever Noah has called him a puppet as well NYT calls him russians poodle... Bill Maher called him illegitimate, John Lewis called him illegitimate, could go on further but no need to.

and then here you are with "No is saying or actually reporting that is an illegitimate Russian spy or some bullshit."

So you won't have any problems finding examples of people currently saying it then.

by **Genivaria** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:54 pm

Oklahoman State wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
See what?

That you prefer bush? Your reasoning makes some sense, I just feel trump is more moderate and less likely to undergo interventionism of Bush or Clinton.

I don't know how far-right you must be if you think Trump of all people is a 'moderate'.

by **The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:57 pm

"What would you like better? A punch in the face? (Bush) Or a shot in the leg? (Trump)"

Bush.

He was an idiot who fucked things up for everyone, but he was all bark and no bite.

by **United Marxist Nations** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:16 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:"What would you like better? A punch in the face? (Bush) Or a shot in the leg? (Trump)"

Bush.

He was an idiot who fucked things up for everyone, but he was all bark and no bite.

I would call destroying Iraq quite a bit of bite.

by **Herskerstad** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:16 pm

Trump, absolutely, the speed on which he gets things done has been considerable early on.

by **The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:20 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:"What would you like better? A punch in the face? (Bush) Or a shot in the leg? (Trump)"

Bush.

He was an idiot who fucked things up for everyone, but he was all bark and no bite.

I would call destroying Iraq quite a bit of bite.

Yes, but on social issues, bark and no bite.

by **Vassenor** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:21 pm

Herskerstad wrote:Trump, absolutely, the speed on which he gets things done has been considerable early on.

Ruling by decree and being an utter hypocrite.

by **United Marxist Nations** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:22 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I would call destroying Iraq quite a bit of bite.

Yes, but on social issues, bark and no bite.

I think destroying countries is a little worse than being conservative on social issues. Moreover, I think you would find yourself agreeing mainly with Bush on social issues, since President Bush tends to be a fairly traditional Christian.

by **The Portland Territory** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:43 pm

Oh I wonder.........?

by **Washington Resistance Army** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:47 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:Oh I wonder.........?

Obviously Dubya.

He was the only president to try and ensure the peaceful coexistence of human and fish.

by **The Blaatschapen** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:51 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Oh I wonder.........?

Obviously Dubya.

He was the only president to try and ensure the peaceful coexistence of human and fish.

As opposed to Garfield, who allegedly ate the latter a lot.

by **Zakuvia** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:56 pm

Bush, without question. For his foibles, Bush at least made a show of trying to justify his actions abroad, and was a lukewarm conservative on social issues, which he mostly deferred to his cabinet posts.

by **Ermarian** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:31 pm

Bush, and I spent eight years being convinced he was literally the worst president imaginable.

Yes, Trump is really that bad.

Edit (2021): This isn't apologia for Bush. The dude is a war criminal who caused the death of millions. I don't feel comfortable ascribing a single positive quality to him (even if he has some) that might minimize that. When he left, though, he didn't instigate a violent insurrection to hold on to power.

by **Timmy City** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:48 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
a megalomaniacal half-wit controlled by putin.

geeez he is going to drop Russian sanctions without GETTING ANYTHING in return. what kind of great deal making is that??

We'll get something in return.

Cheap Russian guns and ammo again

According to SNL we get oil also! :clap:

by **Great Minarchistan** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:54 pm

> Implying Bush was extremely dumb (no joke)
> Implying Dubya "Nucular" created GWOT and made US spend $6 trillion on it
> Still ignoring Katrina
> Didn't pay attention to an alert that would end up in 9/11 later
> Only Poland and UK liked US during W. Bush's administration
> Along with Greenspan, created 2002-2008 housing bubble
> Left US with a $1 trillion deficit

Please, Trump.

by **Maichuko** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:54 pm

Iv'e changed my mind Bush is better than Trump by a long fucking mile.

by **Collatis** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:16 pm

Bush, without a doubt.

by **The Liberated Territories** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:21 pm

I'll have to say Trump. The Bush presidency was a complete disaster (war in iraq, no child left behind, housing bubble, steel tariffs, etc.) while it is too early to tell with Trump so far nothing he has done made me completely oppose him (although the money it would take to build the wall worries me.)

by **Herskerstad** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:38 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:Trump, absolutely, the speed on which he gets things done has been considerable early on.

Ruling by decree and being an utter hypocrite.

2017 is going to make 2016 seem like a mild disappointment for some people. I for my part can't wait. It's going to be great.

by **The Portland Territory** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:39 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Oh I wonder.........?

Obviously Dubya.

He was the only president to try and ensure the peaceful coexistence of human and fish.

Read my mind like a fucking book!

by **Great Minarchistan** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:57 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:(although the money it would take to build the wall worries me.)

$15-25 billion. It is actually a heap of garbage since it means the wall will cost 0.2% of GDP in the worst-case scenario.

by **Sack Jackpot Winners** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:21 pm

Bush. Its no competition.

by **Baltenstein** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:25 pm

Oklahoman State wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
See what?

That you prefer bush? Your reasoning makes some sense, I just feel trump is more moderate and less likely to undergo interventionism of Bush or Clinton.

Remember how Trump blamed the rise of ISIS on the US not doing the proper thing and stripping the Iraq of all of its oil after toppling Saddam?

by **Senkaku** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:28 pm

Bush, for his superior fashion sense, if nothing else.

by **Pope Joan** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:29 pm

I hold it against George W that he gave power to Cheney, who was a nasty piece of work.

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