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Postby Gamergirl90 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:55 pm

I am as I said new so don't know the "history", was the forum more active in the past is the issue?

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Postby Gallade » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:55 pm

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That's one of my gripes with mega-threads. That some of them become too much TET, and just vaguely in-depth about the subject. Trans* and RWDT come to mind here.


But to a point the trans thread has to be that. It is a specific chat about the challenges in their lives. In a sense it was like..... her name escapes me for the moment, the nice kid from cslifornia's rape survivors thread. It is a safe space for them. ( and remember I am not a fan of safe spaces, but as a narrowly tailored specific thread I do see the benefits).

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Postby Hetalia Dakota 2 II » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:55 pm

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It has to be trans* related challenges though. Not all challenges are. Some are just t(w)een/growing up challenges. Or LGB challenges (offtopic for a Trans* thread ;))


Agreed, but sometimes a young trans kid is not going to be able to tell the difference between a teen angst issue, and a trans issue. They are still inexperienced kids.

We really need to do a better job of mentoring over there and helping against in fighting, I'll add it to my notes
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:56 pm

Gamergirl90 wrote:I am as I said new so don't know the "history", was the forum more active in the past is the issue?


The forum has high and low times. Recently, a lot of people have cut their time online here for various reasons. I don't think the forum was more or less active. Just normal ebbs and flows.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:56 pm

Gamergirl90 wrote:I am as I said new so don't know the "history", was the forum more active in the past is the issue?

Ot seems the same as when I joined up, but that was only a few years ago
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:57 pm

Chrinthanium wrote:
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It has to be trans* related challenges though. Not all challenges are. Some are just t(w)een/growing up challenges. Or LGB challenges (offtopic for a Trans* thread ;))

Too bad you don't have thread mods. Mods who patrol just one thread to keep it on topic.

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Oh, I can understand why it happens, but it's still offtopic ;)

Well, off topic only works in TET because TET IS DA KING OF THREADZ!

Muinordgrad wrote:To be air, I also think the departure and banning of a lot of what had been a lot of prominent members (Thafoo, Divair, Stern de Meers, etc) also burned a little bit of the morale.

NSG is big enough to really have a chance to make a rebound. Continuing this more friendly atmosphere, growing back from the stump, eventually people will return.

Though, honestly, another factor is a lot of people probably aged out. I mean, shit, I've been on this website since I was in middle school (Hydronium was apparently founded back in '12), and I'm about three-fourths through my freshman year of college now. This will probably be my last stint on here for months. But I am confident that things will return. This community has survived worse.

There's reasons for Thafoo (someone I used to chat with A LOT). Other people for other reasons. Almost all reason are justified.

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Eh, they'll surive. We'll survive. :meh:

You don't seem so sure.


Oh, I am sure. We've weathered worse. The smiley is meant to convey "meh" or "shrug".
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Postby Gamergirl90 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:57 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Gamergirl90 wrote:I am as I said new so don't know the "history", was the forum more active in the past is the issue?

Ot seems the same as when I joined up, but that was only a few years ago

I'd hate to join in on a sinking ship hehe

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Postby Chrinthanium » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:57 pm

Gamergirl90 wrote:I am as I said new so don't know the "history", was the forum more active in the past is the issue?

It's like the ocean: it ebbs and flows.
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Postby Muinordgrad » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:58 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Muinordgrad wrote:To be air, I also think the departure and banning of a lot of what had been a lot of prominent members (Thafoo, Divair, Stern de Meers, etc) also burned a little bit of the morale.

NSG is big enough to really have a chance to make a rebound. Continuing this more friendly atmosphere, growing back from the stump, eventually people will return.

Though, honestly, another factor is a lot of people probably aged out. I mean, shit, I've been on this website since I was in middle school (Hydronium was apparently founded back in '12), and I'm about three-fourths through my freshman year of college now. This will probably be my last stint on here for months. But I am confident that things will return. This community has survived worse.


Thafoo and Divair broke the rules of the site. They had what was coming to them.

And they deserved to be banned. It is just that their departure took with them what they contributed. Though it seems to be more of coincidence.
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Muinordgrad wrote:To be air, I also think the departure and banning of a lot of what had been a lot of prominent members (Thafoo, Divair, Stern de Meers, etc) also burned a little bit of the morale.

NSG is big enough to really have a chance to make a rebound. Continuing this more friendly atmosphere, growing back from the stump, eventually people will return.

Though, honestly, another factor is a lot of people probably aged out. I mean, shit, I've been on this website since I was in middle school (Hydronium was apparently founded back in '12), and I'm about three-fourths through my freshman year of college now. This will probably be my last stint on here for months. But I am confident that things will return. This community has survived worse.

Qnd then theres folks like me, who are too lonely to ever leave this thread

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:58 pm

Gamergirl90 wrote:I am as I said new so don't know the "history", was the forum more active in the past is the issue?


People are having this perception.

Whether that's true, is not entirely certain. We'd have to measure post volume or so.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:58 pm

Gamergirl90 wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Ot seems the same as when I joined up, but that was only a few years ago

I'd hate to join in on a sinking ship hehe

Nah, we've got a big ol' ship here and she floats fine
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Postby Forsher » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:58 pm

Muinordgrad wrote:To be air, I also think the departure and banning of a lot of what had been a lot of prominent members (Thafoo, Divair, Stern de Meers, etc) also burned a little bit of the morale.


To be frank, Divair was a big problem at the end. Literally every other post was two or three letters long. And half of the remaining ones said "summer".

I'm about three-fourths through my freshman year of college now. This will probably be my last stint on here for months. But I am confident that things will return. This community has survived worse.


This is manageable.

The standard courseload here is four courses a semester, and for undergrads the most intense courses, theoretically, are Stage III papers. I had five Stage III papers last semester, and I still managed to post. Not that often because it was not a good to take those five papers and because NSG is very time consuming, but minimal activity is manageable and sustainable, especially with standard workloads.

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I would agree, but on the other hand, RWDT, and on the nose, I've only been around in the TET-era.



That's cool.

So, the problem now becomes selecting some sort of text to use as a replacement OP, which thus removes the trollishness of the troll OP and but preserves the topic and thus keeps all the people willing to talk about [thing] in the same thread and, therefore, you don't get discussion die off caused by having people have to move to another thread and create that.


Replacing OPs really is too much work for mods. If a thread has a good discussion going despite a poorly-written OP, it can stay open with the existing OP. If the OP is too trollish to leave up, the thread should be locked.


I think the solution is to suggest to players who want a thread to stay open with a suspect OP to include a replacement inside a code box for the mods to copy in (or do so in the event of a report by someone else). It is not realistic, I agree, to ask the mods to come up with the text, which is why I called it a problem.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:59 pm

Muinordgrad wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Thafoo and Divair broke the rules of the site. They had what was coming to them.

And they deserved to be banned. It is just that their departure took with them what they contributed. Though it seems to be more of coincidence.
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Qnd then theres folks like me, who are too lonely to ever leave this thread

Playing Real Life sucks, but eventually you get some good outta it


You mean the constant toxicity and depressed bullshit banters? Yes, we lost that and I say good riddance.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:59 pm

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Honestly I am glad they are gone, either by finally racking up enough dos points or on their own volition. The site is much less toxic now.


Some of them, we are better off without them. Others, it's a shame they left.


Agreed, but as to the folKS Nana mentioned, she is right they earned their dos's.
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Postby Gallade » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:59 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Gamergirl90 wrote:I am as I said new so don't know the "history", was the forum more active in the past is the issue?


The forum has high and low times. Recently, a lot of people have cut their time online here for various reasons. I don't think the forum was more or less active. Just normal ebbs and flows.

Agreed. Now granted, I don't have much interest in threads in NSG besides TET beyond catching up on world news I missed, but I don't see much of a lessening in the amount of regulars from what I do see, more that those regulars aren't spending a perhaps unhealthy amount of time on here anymore.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:59 pm

Hetalia Dakota 2 II wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Agreed, but sometimes a young trans kid is not going to be able to tell the difference between a teen angst issue, and a trans issue. They are still inexperienced kids.

We really need to do a better job of mentoring over there and helping against in fighting, I'll add it to my notes


Please do.

And don't hesitate to go to Moderation if things get too offtopic. And certainly go there when it turns nasty.
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Postby Khalisako » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:59 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Muinordgrad wrote:To be air, I also think the departure and banning of a lot of what had been a lot of prominent members (Thafoo, Divair, Stern de Meers, etc) also burned a little bit of the morale.

NSG is big enough to really have a chance to make a rebound. Continuing this more friendly atmosphere, growing back from the stump, eventually people will return.

Though, honestly, another factor is a lot of people probably aged out. I mean, shit, I've been on this website since I was in middle school (Hydronium was apparently founded back in '12), and I'm about three-fourths through my freshman year of college now. This will probably be my last stint on here for months. But I am confident that things will return. This community has survived worse.

Qnd then theres folks like me, who are too lonely to ever leave this thread

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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:00 pm

Gamergirl90 wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Ot seems the same as when I joined up, but that was only a few years ago

I'd hate to join in on a sinking ship hehe


Do you have something against sinking ships? It is hard to stay afloat when you have as much heavy armor as I do. I can't help it. :(
Don't take life so serious... it isn't permanent... RIP Dyakovo and Ashmoria
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:00 pm

Gallade wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The forum has high and low times. Recently, a lot of people have cut their time online here for various reasons. I don't think the forum was more or less active. Just normal ebbs and flows.

Agreed. Now granted, I don't have much interest in threads in NSG besides TET beyond catching up on world news I missed, but I don't see much of a lessening in the amount of regulars from what I do see, more that those regulars aren't spending a perhaps unhealthy amount of time on here anymore.


Yup, pretty much.
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Postby Muinordgrad » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:01 pm

Gamergirl90 wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Ot seems the same as when I joined up, but that was only a few years ago

I'd hate to join in on a sinking ship hehe

This ship is like all ships: It has it's ups and downs but in the end it sails straight

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:01 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Gamergirl90 wrote:I'd hate to join in on a sinking ship hehe


Do you have something against sinking ships? It is hard to stay afloat when you have as much heavy armor as I do. I can't help it. :(


I like big boats and I cannot lie :blush:
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Postby Gallade » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:02 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Gamergirl90 wrote:I'd hate to join in on a sinking ship hehe


Do you have something against sinking ships? It is hard to stay afloat when you have as much heavy armor as I do. I can't help it. :(

Excellent WiFi on your retirement seafloor, it must be said.
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Postby Forsher » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:02 pm

Gamergirl90 wrote:I am as I said new so don't know the "history", was the forum more active in the past is the issue?


I'm going to say... probably.

TET definitely used to be. TETs would last like a week.
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Postby Chrinthanium » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:02 pm

Gallade wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The forum has high and low times. Recently, a lot of people have cut their time online here for various reasons. I don't think the forum was more or less active. Just normal ebbs and flows.

Agreed. Now granted, I don't have much interest in threads in NSG besides TET beyond catching up on world news I missed, but I don't see much of a lessening in the amount of regulars from what I do see, more that those regulars aren't spending a perhaps unhealthy amount of time on here anymore.

I spend about 8 hours a day on NS. Is that bad?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:02 pm

Gallade wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Do you have something against sinking ships? It is hard to stay afloat when you have as much heavy armor as I do. I can't help it. :(

Excellent WiFi on your retirement seafloor, it must be said.


Fucking longevity. We need her secret.
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