Brexit will bring a United Ireland closer

[Ni Cheapaim]

Fortunately for the world Britain hasn't got the capability for their imperial ways of the past.

Well, for some nations it's fortunate. Others...well. That becomes more debatable, given what those countries did with their independence.

Regardless, I don't see Britain imploding any time soon.

Let's see what the next decade brings.

It'll be slow or fast but I have no doubt that Britain will continue it's decline. There doesn't seem to be anything on the horizon to reverse it and I don't believe that Britain has contracted to a plateau state.

[Lady Scylla]

I somehow get the impression that regardless of whether this will happen or not, the OP wants you to think it will.

Yeah i dont see it happening any time soon even if there is a slight rise in support for irish unification in the north because of brexit.

Most of the Irish I run into have forgotten NI exists. Ive run into only a few that are all about the United Ireland bla bla bla dirty britons bla bla bla.

[Souseiseki]

I think Brexit is going to end poorly for Britain. I understand closing their borders from the swarm of refugess, but I don't think their economy will do to well.

we haven't taken many refugees and the EU's attempts to get more EU countries to take them hasn't really worked. we're also not part of the schengen area, so non-EU citizens can't just waltz on over.

if you don't mind me picking you on a little bit, one of the big problems with brexit is posts like yours. a good portion of people voted because they're worried about refuges or muslim immigration (from non-EU countries, in other words) but those things really don't have much to do with the EU.

[Valaran]

Well, for some nations it's fortunate. Others...well. That becomes more debatable, given what those countries did with their independence.

Regardless, I don't see Britain imploding any time soon.

Let's see what the next decade brings.

It'll be slow or fast but I have no doubt that Britain will continue it's decline. There doesn't seem to be anything on the horizon to reverse it and I don't believe that Britain has contracted to a plateau state.

The decline is relative to its former status; it's not declining in absolute terms.

[Ni Cheapaim]

Let's see what the next decade brings.

It'll be slow or fast but I have no doubt that Britain will continue it's decline. There doesn't seem to be anything on the horizon to reverse it and I don't believe that Britain has contracted to a plateau state.

The decline is relative to its former status; it's not declining in absolute terms.

That makes no difference to anything i've said. Did you think it did?

[Lady Scylla]

Well, for some nations it's fortunate. Others...well. That becomes more debatable, given what those countries did with their independence.

Regardless, I don't see Britain imploding any time soon.

Let's see what the next decade brings.

It'll be slow or fast but I have no doubt that Britain will continue it's decline. There doesn't seem to be anything on the horizon to reverse it and I don't believe that Britain has contracted to a plateau state.

How smug.

[Ni Cheapaim]

Let's see what the next decade brings.

It'll be slow or fast but I have no doubt that Britain will continue it's decline. There doesn't seem to be anything on the horizon to reverse it and I don't believe that Britain has contracted to a plateau state.

How smug.

I'm not sure you understand the definition of the word

Do you dispute that Britain has been declining from it's former position of power? Do you dispute that it is continuing to decline? or do you dispute that there doesn't appear to be any upcoming world events to change its course?

[Valaran]

The decline is relative to its former status; it's not declining in absolute terms.

That makes no difference to anything i've said. Did you think it did?

Perhaps I should make it clearer for you (would this help?): Britain won't become so weak by 2030 than NI can just detach itself. It's decline has almost no relevance to the topic at hand, and that is because you've misinterpreted relative decline for absolute decline.

[Republic of the Cristo]

Neither Scotland nor Northern Ireland will leave the UK. When the negotiations take place, I think Ireland will tell the EU to go to hell and ask for a soft border. The Republic and the 6 counties do A LOT of trade and many families are separated by the border. Northern Ireland already voted on the referendum and overwhelmingly they chose to stay in the UK, and I don't think they are going to change that now just because of Brexit.

[Ni Cheapaim]

That makes no difference to anything i've said. Did you think it did?

Perhaps I should make it clearer for you (would this help?): Britain won't become so weak by 2030 than NI can just detach itself. It's decline has almost no relevance to the topic at hand, and that is because you've misinterpreted relative decline for absolute decline.

No the problem is that you've misinterpreted that point as referring to the overarching theme of this thread rather than within a conversation stemming from a poster who suggested the UK annexing Ireland as a way to achieve a United Ireland (As tired and unoriginal a comment as that is)

I'd suggest reading through the entire conversation evolution prior to commenting on it. It avoids these kinds of misunderstandings.

[Ifreann]

I agree with Iffy. NI can stay UK, place is the Afghanistan and a money blackhole of the isles, and last Ireland needs is that. If it suits their fancy, NI can just be an independent state, pretty sure the Ulster-Scots are still big on that.

Thanks.

No one understands when you post in Afghani, Huskar.

[Mefpan]

Perhaps I should make it clearer for you (would this help?): Britain won't become so weak by 2030 than NI can just detach itself. It's decline has almost no relevance to the topic at hand, and that is because you've misinterpreted relative decline for absolute decline.

No the problem is that you've misinterpreted that point as referring to the overarching theme of this thread rather than within a conversation stemming from a poster who suggested the UK annexing Ireland as a way to achieve a United Ireland (As tired and unoriginal a comment as that is)

I'd suggest reading through the entire conversation evolution prior to commenting on it. It avoids these kinds of misunderstandings.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm actively advocating for a British annexation of the independent bits of Ireland.

I am not. I am saying, or perhaps more appropriately implying that people should just accept that Northern Ireland is British, that the Falklands are British, that Gibraltar is British, that some other areas I'm sure people are butthurt about still being British are British and that Britain doesn't have an automatic moral obligation to roll over and die for the sake of satisfying age-old grudges held by the populations of other countries it may or may not have ruled over with varying degrees of success that may or may not be appreciated by the natives of those countries at some point.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Thanks.

No one understands when you post in Afghani, Huskar.

Absolutely McGuinness.

[Helvetea]

The only way Ireland is going to be reunited is if Britain reintegrates the southern part of the island.

Somehow, I doubt the Republic will come willingly in that scenario.

[Lady Scylla]

How smug.

I'm not sure you understand the definition of the word

Do you dispute that Britain has been declining from it's former position of power? Do you dispute that it is continuing to decline? or do you dispute that there doesn't appear to be any upcoming world events to change its course?

Wheres the All of the above option. I said smug because that comment alone seemrd fukl of ut

[Mefpan]

The only way Ireland is going to be reunited is if Britain reintegrates the southern part of the island.

Somehow, I doubt the Republic will come willingly in that scenario.

Well they didn't come willingly the first time around either :^)

[Lady Scylla]

No one understands when you post in Afghani, Huskar.

Absolutely McGuinness.

Sorry, Husk. Just, peacewalls, armoured vans, anti-rpg netting on precincts. >.>

[Ni Cheapaim]

I'm not sure you understand the definition of the word

Do you dispute that Britain has been declining from it's former position of power? Do you dispute that it is continuing to decline? or do you dispute that there doesn't appear to be any upcoming world events to change its course?

Wheres the All of the above option. I said smug because that comment alone seemrd fukl of ut

All of the above? Jesus the whole fall of the British Empire and pretty much the entirety of post WW1/2 history at least must convince you against disputing the first point.

" seemrd fukl of ut " isn't a phrase i'm used to.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Absolutely McGuinness.

Sorry, Husk. Just, peacewalls, armoured vans, anti-rpg netting on precincts. >.>

And largely we are not that stupid any more, thought some pricks remain and continue to cause shit each year, thankfully they are dwindling in number as younger people really cannot be fucking bothered dealing with it.

[Helvetea]

Somehow, I doubt the Republic will come willingly in that scenario.

Well they didn't come willingly the first time around either :^)

(Calls on-screen) Siobhan! Fetch me the claymore!

But in all seriousness, yeah. England was Lui Calibre OP when they went to Ireland.

[Lady Scylla]

Neither Scotland nor Northern Ireland will leave the UK. When the negotiations take place, I think Ireland will tell the EU to go to hell and ask for a soft border. The Republic and the 6 counties do A LOT of trade and many families are separated by the border. Northern Ireland already voted on the referendum and overwhelmingly they chose to stay in the UK, and I don't think they are going to change that now just because of Brexit.

Well, Scotland and NI voted stay in large part because they wanted to stay in the EU. Then Brexit happened.

[Ifreann]

Neither Scotland nor Northern Ireland will leave the UK. When the negotiations take place, I think Ireland will tell the EU to go to hell and ask for a soft border. The Republic and the 6 counties do A LOT of trade and many families are separated by the border. Northern Ireland already voted on the referendum and overwhelmingly they chose to stay in the UK, and I don't think they are going to change that now just because of Brexit.

Tell the EU? I don't know about that. We'll probably ask nicely if we could please not have our economy wrecked.

[Lady Scylla]

Wheres the All of the above option. I said smug because that comment alone seemrd fukl of ut

All of the above? Jesus the whole fall of the British Empire and pretty much the entirety of post WW1/2 history at least must convince you against disputing the first point.

" seemrd fukl of ut " isn't a phrase i'm used to.

But Britains still around. Im on somd dtrong painkillers becausr kf durgery yestrrday.

[Ni Cheapaim]

All of the above? Jesus the whole fall of the British Empire and pretty much the entirety of post WW1/2 history at least must convince you against disputing the first point.

" seemrd fukl of ut " isn't a phrase i'm used to.

But Britains still around. Im on somd dtrong painkillers becausr kf durgery yestrrday.

Uh Huh. That'll be why it comes and goes so readily.

[Lady Scylla]

But Britains still around. Im on somd dtrong painkillers becausr kf durgery yestrrday.

Uh Huh. That'll be why it comes and goes so readily.

I can take. Pcture of the blood and bandages if youd like or uoh can shut your mouth instead of being vloody petty. Real shit wsy yo go