Russia; will they make a big move in Eastern Europe?

[Uxupox]

i said western Europe today. Poland and eastern Europe? Good guys, kept their shit in working fucking condition.

Western Europe i feel will be more of a liability. Might need some american boots in their asses for the 3rd time in a hundred years before they can get their shit unfucked.

France can still hold there own or just nuke everything

The only organization I'm confident that can hold their own is the French foreign legion.

[Urarenge]

Bring back the USSR... the world was safer when the US consistently took foreign policy seriously.

[Balkenreich]

France can still hold there own or just nuke everything

The only organization I'm confident that can hold their own is the French foreign legion.

They are not even French!

[Thermodolia]

France can still hold there own or just nuke everything

Not if we park a carrier group in the english channel or the north sea.

France can still defend herself trust me on that one.

[Maichuko]

Ukraine is pretty much screwed. The rest of eastern Europe has a chance.

[Sack Jackpot Winners]

Oh no, NATO would wipe the Russian Army from the history books it would be so clean. The Russian military has been working nearly ten years just to keep their armed forces supplied, trained, following orders, not mutinying, and not selling off military items. Sort of the point of this.

They did reforms that made them more effective, as the invasions of Georgia and Crimea show. Not sure how that is supposed to help your point. Give this a read before posting again, and then mediate on this as well as this especially.

I said the reforms were needed to counteract a pretty abysmal situation. So there.

Congrats, you now have a bad ass tank and one of your enemy alliance's many, many allies has a poor air force. Sounds a lot like German logic in 1940.

Thus losing all moral superiority in such a conflict?

How? By saving lives on the battlefield, you somehow avoid or shorten war by causing internal divisions that were already a mile wide?

This also ignores there is no viable opposition in Russia, as well as the fact the 2012 protests and the last three years of sanctions have failed to produce any results.

"Failed to produce any results"

[Uxupox]

The only organization I'm confident that can hold their own is the French foreign legion.

They are not even French!

That's why I trust the.

[Balkenreich]

Not if we park a carrier group in the english channel or the north sea.

France can still defend herself trust me on that one.

considering that the germans have been fucked so hard that they hate the idea of German nationhood, and all of france's traditional enemies either allied or gone...

I fall to see how the french Army quashing some irate jihadists in Mali counts as doing anything productive.

[Thermodolia]

The only organization I'm confident that can hold their own is the French foreign legion.

They are not even French!

Yes they are. Every person who serves in the French Foreign Legion becomes an automatic French citizen and if they are killed in action then their immediate family becomes French citizens.

Also that boot camp is worse than USMC training

[Balkenreich]

They are not even French!

That's why I trust the.

least they wont shoot you in the back.

as for the germans...well.

[Balkenreich]

They are not even French!

Yes they are. Every person who serves in the French Foreign Legion becomes an automatic French citizen and if they are killed in action then their immediate family becomes French citizens.

Also that boot camp is worse than USMC training

oh wow, going a whole day without seeing a parisian whore. such hard times.

[Uxupox]

They are not even French!

Yes they are. Every person who serves in the French Foreign Legion becomes an automatic French citizen and if they are killed in action then their immediate family becomes French citizens.

Also that boot camp is worse than USMC training

They only become French after their initial 3 years of service is up.

[Thermodolia]

France can still defend herself trust me on that one.

considering that the germans have been fucked so hard that they hate the idea of German nationhood, and all of france's traditional enemies either allied or gone...

I fall to see how the french Army quashing some irate jihadists in Mali counts as doing anything productive.

The French still are willing to die to protect their homeland with or without American help. Unlike Germany, the French can be very nationalistic. And most likely will be very soon.

[Thermodolia]

Yes they are. Every person who serves in the French Foreign Legion becomes an automatic French citizen and if they are killed in action then their immediate family becomes French citizens.

Also that boot camp is worse than USMC training

They only become French after their initial 3 years of service is up.

Hence the serves as in past tense

[Oil exporting People]

I said the reforms were needed to counteract a pretty abysmal situation. So there.

So the Russian Military has had nine years to improve itself. Again, not sure what you were trying to say with that.

Congrats, you now have a bad ass tank and one of your enemy alliance's many, many allies has a poor air force. Sounds a lot like German logic in 1940.

When you chart what other developments the Russians have been doing as well as the US, you see they are fundamentally ahead of the curve. Ivan was deploying new ERA by the mid-2000s, while the US only started deploying new shells to counter this around 2013. As well, it's important to note RAND said they'd need around seven brigades and heavy air support, which will all basically have to come from the US. Why is this an issue? The US just now deployed a single brigade into Poland.

How? By saving lives on the battlefield, you somehow avoid or shorten war by causing internal divisions that were already a mile wide?

By aligning with the same individuals you placed sanctions on and by giving them power. You're also going to need to prove that last assertion.

"Failed to produce any results"

Did you not read my post? I specifically said the sanctions had failed to do anything, as Putin is now domestically stronger than he ever has been nor am I seeing any moves against him by domestic forces. So this actually just proves I'm right.

[Gettenfeld]

Yes they are. Every person who serves in the French Foreign Legion becomes an automatic French citizen and if they are killed in action then their immediate family becomes French citizens.

Also that boot camp is worse than USMC training

They only become French after their initial 3 years of service is up.

That, or becoming "French by spilled blood".

[Thermodolia]

Yes they are. Every person who serves in the French Foreign Legion becomes an automatic French citizen and if they are killed in action then their immediate family becomes French citizens.

Also that boot camp is worse than USMC training

oh wow, going a whole day without seeing a parisian whore. such hard times.

We get it you have a hard on for all things American and bashing France. Who at least doesn't rely on the US to defend its self and hasn't gone crazy like Sweden.

[Populi-Terrae]

Russia did not take territory from Georgia, and Crimea voted to become part of Russia. Russia does not want to invade Eastern Europe or restore the USSR (or at least the 1989 borders). Most of Europe is stacked against them if they did, because NATO, in practice, is an inherently anti-Russian organization. Trump is right when he says its failing.

Crimea only voted for it after it was invaded by Russian paramilitary forces. The referendum was held without the permission of the central government in Kiev. Ergo, the referendum was illegal and the result was rigged.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Just bring back the Free Territory of Ukraine to fight back the Russian fascists.

>Ukranian Resistance
>Not Fascist

[Balkenreich]

considering that the germans have been fucked so hard that they hate the idea of German nationhood, and all of france's traditional enemies either allied or gone...

I fall to see how the french Army quashing some irate jihadists in Mali counts as doing anything productive.

The French still are willing to die to protect their homeland with or without American help. Unlike Germany, the French can be very nationalistic. And most likely will be very soon.

Maybe theres hope for our oldest ally yet.

we share such ideals such as freedom and liberty.

and fun hobbies like hanging tyrants.

[Balkenreich]

oh wow, going a whole day without seeing a parisian whore. such hard times.

We get it you have a hard on for all things American and bashing France. Who at least doesn't rely on the US to defend its self and hasn't gone crazy like Sweden.

Meanwhile in germany....

[Thermodolia]

The French still are willing to die to protect their homeland with or without American help. Unlike Germany, the French can be very nationalistic. And most likely will be very soon.

Maybe theres hope for our oldest ally yet.

we share such ideals such as freedom and liberty.

and fun hobbies like hanging tyrants.

The socialists are going to lose the presidential election and the Republicans, think Charles DeGaulle, are going to win it. They might have a chance at winning they legislative elections as well.

[Balkenreich]

Maybe theres hope for our oldest ally yet.

we share such ideals such as freedom and liberty.

and fun hobbies like hanging tyrants.

The socialists are going to lose the presidential election and the Republicans, think Charles DeGaulle, are going to win it. They might have a chance at winning they legislative elections as well.

We need more Eurosceptics.

[Thermodolia]

We get it you have a hard on for all things American and bashing France. Who at least doesn't rely on the US to defend its self and hasn't gone crazy like Sweden.

Meanwhile in germany....

Hey France banned the burqa and de facto removed itself from the Schengen area, they've basically closed their borders.

[Balkenreich]

Meanwhile in germany....

Hey France banned the burqa and de facto removed itself from the Schengen area, they've basically closed their borders.

fucking good.

ww3 bitches! TIME TO KICK THE GERMANS ASS.

AGAIN.