Robert E. Lee Day

[Need a Name]

Is this real? If so, what genius but MLK day and Robert E. Lee Day both on January 16th? And why did he get a day?

So many questions. So many questions.

[Aryan Nation]

Is this real? If so, what genius but MLK day and Robert E. Lee Day both on January 16th? And why did he get a day?

So many questions. So many questions.

They probably figured it would be a way to strike back at that Agitator MLK, when it was originally decided. Same reason they hoisted the Confederate flag.

Because a whole bunch of foreign northern yankees came down trying to change our southern ways

[USS Monitor]

Because it's celebrated in parts of the South that want to rise again, but can't get it up.

Most parts of the South tend to be heavily patriotic, with Southerners making up a sizeable portion serving in the US army. It's doubtful that many (if any) parts want to secede again. Else that would be eaten up by the mainstream media. More likely people just respect Lee because of his reputation as a good general and a Southern patriot (though whether he deserves that reputation is irrelevant to me - I don't think Rommel deserves his, generals tend to be talked up based on PR).

Why Lee and not other generals? If you want to have a regional rivalry with the North, that's one thing, but don't turn around and pretend the regionalistic trolling is actually just patriotism. I have more respect for the Southerners who admit they are trolling us. I still think it's a dumbass thing to do, but at least it's honest.

[MERIZoC]

Bad take.

Lee wasn't a bad guy because he took up arms against the US (who cares?) but because he was defending slavery.

Wasn't the U.S. defending slavery during the war of 1812? When Britain had dissolved slavery at that point but the U.S. maintained it? Were the soldiers of the U.S. not defending slavery?

Because if the rightful government, the United Kingdom, had won, Slavery would have been illegal.

You may be able to make an argument there, but I know jack squat about the war of 1812, and what may have happened had it gone differently, so I won't comment either way.

Bad take.

Lee wasn't a bad guy because he took up arms against the US (who cares?) but because he was defending slavery.

Secession was about slavery, but the war was not, and Lee's reasons for fighting on the side of the South had more to do with a love for his home state than it did for any anti-abolition sentiment. Which is a no-brainer, nobody wants to have to shoot at their friends and family.

How could secession be about slavery, but the war caused by secession not be? Fighting for secession meant fighting for the system. Your feelings on the matter are irrelevant when you start killing people. Your actions speak for themselves.

[Aryan Nation]

Most parts of the South tend to be heavily patriotic, with Southerners making up a sizeable portion serving in the US army. It's doubtful that many (if any) parts want to secede again. Else that would be eaten up by the mainstream media. More likely people just respect Lee because of his reputation as a good general and a Southern patriot (though whether he deserves that reputation is irrelevant to me - I don't think Rommel deserves his, generals tend to be talked up based on PR).

Why Lee and not other generals? If you want to have a regional rivalry with the North, that's one thing, but don't turn around and pretend the regionalistic trolling is actually just patriotism. I have more respect for the Southerners who admit they are trolling us. I still think it's a dumbass thing to do, but at least it's honest.

As far as you know, the south won the war.

[MERIZoC]

Is this real? If so, what genius but MLK day and Robert E. Lee Day both on January 16th? And why did he get a day?

So many questions. So many questions.

Racist southern politicians wanted to bait people and undermine black struggle.

[Aryan Nation]

Is this real? If so, what genius but MLK day and Robert E. Lee Day both on January 16th? And why did he get a day?

So many questions. So many questions.

Racist southern politicians wanted to bait people and undermine black struggle.

It worked.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Let's not celebrate a traitor (Lee).

He's not a traitor. He fought for his state. That was what mattered.

He was a traitor to the Union.

[Need a Name]

Is this real? If so, what genius but MLK day and Robert E. Lee Day both on January 16th? And why did he get a day?

So many questions. So many questions.

They probably figured it would be a way to strike back at that Agitator MLK, when it was originally decided. Same reason they hoisted the Confederate flag.

Because a whole bunch of foreign northern yankees came down trying to change our southern ways

Well, when someone's ways are segregation and systemic racism I think they need a healthy dosage of "foreign yankee".

What states actually recognize Gen Lee day?

[Internationalist Bastard]

Why Lee and not other generals? If you want to have a regional rivalry with the North, that's one thing, but don't turn around and pretend the regionalistic trolling is actually just patriotism. I have more respect for the Southerners who admit they are trolling us. I still think it's a dumbass thing to do, but at least it's honest.

As far as you know, the south won the war.

Yeah, you're right they one, then decided to concede defeat anyway /s

[MERIZoC]

Racist southern politicians wanted to bait people and undermine black struggle.

It worked.

Not really, seeing as I'd never heard of it before this idiotic thread, and neither have most people.

[Aryan Nation]

They probably figured it would be a way to strike back at that Agitator MLK, when it was originally decided. Same reason they hoisted the Confederate flag.

Because a whole bunch of foreign northern yankees came down trying to change our southern ways

Well, when someone's ways are segregation and systemic racism I think they need a healthy dosage of "foreign yankee".

What states actually recognize Gen Lee day?

Segregation and systemic racism have permitted great advancement in many areas, i believe. We're a people destined to separate, water and oil and all that. I think Africans can run their own country, and Americans can run theirs.

I don't know what states recognize it, i know Florida does. But i'm too lazy to find out exactly.

[Internationalist Bastard]

They probably figured it would be a way to strike back at that Agitator MLK, when it was originally decided. Same reason they hoisted the Confederate flag.

Because a whole bunch of foreign northern yankees came down trying to change our southern ways

Well, when someone's ways are segregation and systemic racism I think they need a healthy dosage of "foreign yankee".

What states actually recognize Gen Lee day?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee_Day Not too many. Most decided to drop the holiday that existed only to assholes

[Aryan Nation]

As far as you know, the south won the war.

Yeah, you're right they one, then decided to concede defeat anyway /s

They did pretty good during reconstruction and the next 100 years.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Well, when someone's ways are segregation and systemic racism I think they need a healthy dosage of "foreign yankee".

What states actually recognize Gen Lee day?

Segregation and systemic racism have permitted great advancement in many areas, i believe. We're a people destined to separate, water and oil and all that. I think Africans can run their own country, and Americans can run theirs.

I don't know what states recognize it, i know Florida does. But i'm too lazy to find out exactly.

Did you know most segregated communities collapse? Probably because telling people they have no rights because they had they audacity to have different genes works out poorly

[Neutraligon]

Is this real? If so, what genius but MLK day and Robert E. Lee Day both on January 16th? And why did he get a day?

So many questions. So many questions.

They probably figured it would be a way to strike back at that Agitator MLK, when it was originally decided. Same reason they hoisted the Confederate flag.

Because a whole bunch of foreign northern yankees came down trying to change our southern ways

Good thing those yankees where not foreign, they where all citizens of the US. Oh and, considering the fugitive slave act, southerners have nothing to complain about since they were trying to change northern ways.

[Yoshida (Ancient)]

Most parts of the South tend to be heavily patriotic, with Southerners making up a sizeable portion serving in the US army. It's doubtful that many (if any) parts want to secede again. Else that would be eaten up by the mainstream media. More likely people just respect Lee because of his reputation as a good general and a Southern patriot (though whether he deserves that reputation is irrelevant to me - I don't think Rommel deserves his, generals tend to be talked up based on PR).

Why Lee and not other generals? If you want to have a regional rivalry with the North, that's one thing, but don't turn around and pretend the regionalistic trolling is actually just patriotism. I have more respect for the Southerners who admit they are trolling us. I still think it's a dumbass thing to do, but at least it's honest.

Probably because Lee is one of the most well known, being the General in Chief and all. Though "General Lee day" appears to be an obscure holiday celebrated in four Southern states. To be honest, I don't give a damn about "regional rivalries," if it's a thing, then I consider it stupid.

[Need a Name]

Well, when someone's ways are segregation and systemic racism I think they need a healthy dosage of "foreign yankee".

What states actually recognize Gen Lee day?

Segregation and systemic racism have permitted great advancement in many areas, i believe. We're a people destined to separate, water and oil and all that. I think Africans can run their own country, and Americans can run theirs.

I don't know what states recognize it, i know Florida does. But i'm too lazy to find out exactly.

How are we going to define "great advancements?" The south has always been extremely rural and lags behind the nation in major areas like standard of living.

I can respect that. That's why I asked you lol

[Internationalist Bastard]

Yeah, you're right they one, then decided to concede defeat anyway /s

They did pretty good during reconstruction and the next 100 years.

By what measure, that they lost so they had to find a way to be racist minus slavery?

[Neutraligon]

Yeah, you're right they one, then decided to concede defeat anyway /s

They did pretty good during reconstruction and the next 100 years.

Not really.

[Gettenfeld]

Is this real? If so, what genius but MLK day and Robert E. Lee Day both on January 16th? And why did he get a day?

So many questions. So many questions.

They probably figured it would be a way to strike back at that Agitator MLK, when it was originally decided. Same reason they hoisted the Confederate flag.

Because a whole bunch of foreign northern yankees came down trying to change our southern ways

Dude, those "Southern Ways" included owning other people. That's not something a person can reasonably defend.

[Aryan Nation]

Segregation and systemic racism have permitted great advancement in many areas, i believe. We're a people destined to separate, water and oil and all that. I think Africans can run their own country, and Americans can run theirs.

I don't know what states recognize it, i know Florida does. But i'm too lazy to find out exactly.

Did you know most segregated communities collapse? Probably because telling people they have no rights because they had they audacity to have different genes works out poorly

Nazi Germany didn't have any problems with that.

They probably figured it would be a way to strike back at that Agitator MLK, when it was originally decided. Same reason they hoisted the Confederate flag.

Because a whole bunch of foreign northern yankees came down trying to change our southern ways

Dude, those "Southern Ways" included owning other people. That's not something a person can reasonably defend.

the vast majority of southerners did not own people.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Why Lee and not other generals? If you want to have a regional rivalry with the North, that's one thing, but don't turn around and pretend the regionalistic trolling is actually just patriotism. I have more respect for the Southerners who admit they are trolling us. I still think it's a dumbass thing to do, but at least it's honest.

Probably because Lee is one of the most well known, being the General in Chief and all. Though "General Lee day" appears to be an obscure holiday celebrated in four Southern states. To be honest, I don't give a damn about "regional rivalries," if it's a thing, then I consider it stupid.

Welcome to how I view nations.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Did you know most segregated communities collapse? Probably because telling people they have no rights because they had they audacity to have different genes works out poorly

Nazi Germany didn't have any problems with that.

Dude, those "Southern Ways" included owning other people. That's not something a person can reasonably defend.

the vast majority of southerners did not own people.

That's why they got caught up in a war they couldn't win, losing many of their great artists and thinkers in the process, and collapsed in a few years

[Need a Name]

Well, when someone's ways are segregation and systemic racism I think they need a healthy dosage of "foreign yankee".

What states actually recognize Gen Lee day?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee_Day Not too many. Most decided to drop the holiday that existed only to assholes

Explains why my Mainer ass never heard of it.