Trump MAGAThread III: Steak, Vodka, Casinos, and America

[Ifreann]

Anything to back that up?

If you need to ask for that to be backed up, you have no business being involved in this discussion.

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.

[Lady Scylla]

Eastern Ukraine receives a large offensive from Russian-backed separatists.

[Ashmoria]

You can't create money, all that happens from printing more money is making it worth less. Higher supply, lower costs. Simple concept of supply and demand

The US is not running out of money. Nor is the economy teetering on the brink of disaster. For instance, for at least the last eight years, "smart people" over in the GOP have been warning about run-away inflation. Did it happen? Unless you think 2% is run-away, no, it didn't. None of the deficit scolds have been right. If the US had borrowed more back in 2009 and 2010 and put people to work with government money, the recovery would have been stronger and faster, but as it is, we're at lower unemployment than we had before 2008.

besides why would anyone who worries about debt support someone who is going to repeal the ACA, boost military spending, boost infrastructure spending and cut taxes? that is at least $9T in extra debt in the next 10 years.

[Lady Scylla]

Actually, it's been a common, and rather unspoken rule on NS for over a decade now. If you make claims, regardless of how 'apparent' you feel they are, you cite them with sources to reinforce your argument. If you can't do that, then your entire point is thereby dismissed by everyone as little more than someone's rambling opinion.

No it isn't: for instance, I can't demand you cite the definition of the word "the" (and every word that makes up that discussion, iterated until you go insane!) and then dismiss everything you say if you don't.

Betoni may well (and likely does) know nothing at all about British history. If that is so, he may not accept any of my claims. But if that is so, I simply don't care to discuss the matter with him, just as I don't care to discuss group theory with someone who has to ask what an integer is.

Actually, you could. And then I would give you the etymology of the article. However, that wouldn't justify the -- reductio ad absurdum. This is how debates here work. You provide proof of your argument, if you can't do that, well, you can reread the above statement by me. If this is going to be your continued behaviour, then don't expect many to take you seriously, much less listen. Boohoo.

[Ifreann]

Eastern Ukraine receives a large offensive from Russian-backed separatists.

Don't worry, Putin won't go into Ukraine. Trump said so.

[Sunstruck]

No it isn't: for instance, I can't demand you cite the definition of the word "the" (and every word that makes up that discussion, iterated until you go insane!) and then dismiss everything you say if you don't.

Betoni may well (and likely does) know nothing at all about British history. If that is so, he may not accept any of my claims. But if that is so, I simply don't care to discuss the matter with him, just as I don't care to discuss group theory with someone who has to ask what an integer is.

Actually, you could. And then I would give you the etymology of the article. However, that wouldn't justify the -- reductio ad absurdum. This is how debates here work. You provide proof of your argument, if you can't do that, well, you can reread the above statement by me. If this is going to be your continued behaviour, then don't expect many to take you seriously, much less listen. Boohoo.

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[Community Values]

Eastern Ukraine receives a large offensive from Russian-backed separatists.

Here's to hoping Trump will not stand down in the face of Russian aggression. Probably will

[Betoni]

Anything to back that up?

If you need to ask for that to be backed up, you have no business being involved in this discussion.

Figured as much. But on this I'll take your word for it, and for the sake of my sanity, won't be involved in this discussion any more.

[Ashmoria]

Eastern Ukraine receives a large offensive from Russian-backed separatists.

Here's to hoping Trump will not stand down in the face of Russian aggression. Probably will

stand down? he is probably going to drop sanctions while this is going on.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Actually, it's been a common, and rather unspoken rule on NS for over a decade now. If you make claims, regardless of how 'apparent' you feel they are, you cite them with sources to reinforce your argument. If you can't do that, then your entire point is thereby dismissed by everyone as little more than someone's rambling opinion.

No it isn't: for instance, I can't demand you cite the definition of the word "the" (and every word that makes up that discussion, iterated until you go insane!) and then dismiss everything you say if you don't.

Betoni may well (and likely does) know nothing at all about British history. If that is so, he may not accept any of my claims. But if that is so, I simply don't care to discuss the matter with him, just as I don't care to discuss group theory with someone who has to ask what an integer is.

This is rather amusing, to be honest, coming from you; someone who said there was nothing useful about going to college.

Tell me, how does it feel to be so smug about your intellectual superiority you gained from scholars who have gone to college and have researched this for you?

[Indo-European Union]

No it isn't: for instance, I can't demand you cite the definition of the word "the" (and every word that makes up that discussion, iterated until you go insane!) and then dismiss everything you say if you don't.

Betoni may well (and likely does) know nothing at all about British history. If that is so, he may not accept any of my claims. But if that is so, I simply don't care to discuss the matter with him, just as I don't care to discuss group theory with someone who has to ask what an integer is.

This is rather amusing, to be honest, coming from you; someone who said there was nothing useful about going to college.

Tell me, how does it feel to be so smug about your intellectual superiority you gained from scholars who have gone to college and have researched this for you?

You're clueless. The theory of integers pre-dates even our civilisation, let alone universities.

[Indo-European Union]

No it isn't: for instance, I can't demand you cite the definition of the word "the" (and every word that makes up that discussion, iterated until you go insane!) and then dismiss everything you say if you don't.

Betoni may well (and likely does) know nothing at all about British history. If that is so, he may not accept any of my claims. But if that is so, I simply don't care to discuss the matter with him, just as I don't care to discuss group theory with someone who has to ask what an integer is.

Actually, you could. And then I would give you the etymology of the article. However, that wouldn't justify the -- reductio ad absurdum. This is how debates here work. You provide proof of your argument, if you can't do that, well, you can reread the above statement by me. If this is going to be your continued behaviour, then don't expect many to take you seriously, much less listen. Boohoo.

If that's how debates here work, why is it no one sourced a single thing?

It's nothing special to here: it's how nerds try to back out of arguments they lost.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Anything to back that up?

I don't know about comparative, but I highly recommend Filthy Cities - London for a lot of very interesting information about why London was so filthy, and what had to be done about it.

Hint: The fix didn't have all that much to do with the free market

To be fair, most pro-market types are not stupid enough either to go for the very regulations which keep the market competitive and somewhat sane.

I'm rather pro-market and I think business regulations now are better than in 19th century America. Unlike Trump's lackeys, who seem to think libertarian capitalism is the end-all be-all of commerce and wealth.

[Salandriagado]

Actually, you could. And then I would give you the etymology of the article. However, that wouldn't justify the -- reductio ad absurdum. This is how debates here work. You provide proof of your argument, if you can't do that, well, you can reread the above statement by me. If this is going to be your continued behaviour, then don't expect many to take you seriously, much less listen. Boohoo.

If that's how debates here work, why is it no one sourced a single thing?

It's nothing special to here: it's how nerds try to back out of arguments they lost.

Because other people haven't had a claim challenged. You have. Either support it, or concede it.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

This is rather amusing, to be honest, coming from you; someone who said there was nothing useful about going to college.

Tell me, how does it feel to be so smug about your intellectual superiority you gained from scholars who have gone to college and have researched this for you?

You're clueless. The theory of integers pre-dates even our civilisation, let alone universities.

The theory of integers required people who were learned in mathematics to explain integers, which requires academic institutions where they teach you how to think, which, you know, requires Universities as a matter of necessity.

The only one amused here is me, right now, with this particular discussion.

[Community Values]

Here's to hoping Trump will not stand down in the face of Russian aggression. Probably will

stand down? he is probably going to drop sanctions while this is going on.

Don't worry, he is strong on foreign policy. So he'll allow Russia to have fair "referendums" in places with significant russian minorities like Eastern Ukraine.

Because he's strong on foreign policy, unlike Obama.

[Lady Scylla]

Actually, you could. And then I would give you the etymology of the article. However, that wouldn't justify the -- reductio ad absurdum. This is how debates here work. You provide proof of your argument, if you can't do that, well, you can reread the above statement by me. If this is going to be your continued behaviour, then don't expect many to take you seriously, much less listen. Boohoo.

If that's how debates here work, why is it no one sourced a single thing?

It's nothing special to here: it's how nerds try to back out of arguments they lost.

Because you're the one making claims, whereas being rebuffed. So scathing, it hurt my feelings. I'll just downgrade your argument to rambling opinion. When you're actually interested in some form of legitimate debate, do let us know! Have a nice day.

[Lady Scylla]

You're clueless. The theory of integers pre-dates even our civilisation, let alone universities.

The theory of integers required people who were learned in mathematics to explain integers, which requires academic institutions where they teach you how to think, which, you know, requires Universities as a matter of necessity.

The only one amused here is me, right now, with this particular discussion.

Which has gone off-topic, I might add.

[Uxupox]

Eastern Ukraine receives a large offensive from Russian-backed separatists.

Here's to hoping Trump will not stand down in the face of Russian aggression. Probably will

Russian intervention in the Don-bass region has being going on for years now and it will continue with or without our say so.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Actually, you could. And then I would give you the etymology of the article. However, that wouldn't justify the -- reductio ad absurdum. This is how debates here work. You provide proof of your argument, if you can't do that, well, you can reread the above statement by me. If this is going to be your continued behaviour, then don't expect many to take you seriously, much less listen. Boohoo.

If that's how debates here work, why is it no one sourced a single thing?

It's nothing special to here: it's how nerds try to back out of arguments they lost.

Because your claims are rather counterintuitive to what the accepted knowledgebase of a particular field is.

For extraordinary claims, or counterintuitive claims, you need to show rather convincing data which proves your counterintuitive point.

[Indo-European Union]

You're clueless. The theory of integers pre-dates even our civilisation, let alone universities.

The theory of integers required people who were learned in mathematics to explain integers, which requires academic institutions where they teach you how to think, which, you know, requires Universities as a matter of necessity.

The only one amused here is me, right now, with this particular discussion.

The first Western university was founded in 1155, while integers were known to the Ancient Greeks. You are wrong.

[Ashmoria]

stand down? he is probably going to drop sanctions while this is going on.

Don't worry, he is strong on foreign policy. So he'll allow Russia to have fair "referendums" in places with significant russian minorities like Eastern Ukraine.

Because he's strong on foreign policy, unlike Obama.

oh how I wish I could place a bet on this theory. or against it really.

that seems to me to be too much thinking for president trump.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

If that's how debates here work, why is it no one sourced a single thing?

It's nothing special to here: it's how nerds try to back out of arguments they lost.

Because you're the one making claims, whereas being rebuffed. So scathing, it hurt my feelings. I'll just downgrade your argument to rambling opinion. When you're actually interested in some form of legitimate debate, do let us know! Have a nice day.

I love how he adds that "nerds" try to back out of arguments they lost with sources. On the internet.

[Indo-European Union]

If that's how debates here work, why is it no one sourced a single thing?

It's nothing special to here: it's how nerds try to back out of arguments they lost.

Because other people haven't had a claim challenged. You have. Either support it, or concede it.

I challenged their claims, to which they responded not with sources, but spluttering disbelief.

[Sunstruck]

The theory of integers required people who were learned in mathematics to explain integers, which requires academic institutions where they teach you how to think, which, you know, requires Universities as a matter of necessity.

The only one amused here is me, right now, with this particular discussion.

The first Western university was founded in 1155, while integers were known to the Ancient Greeks. You are wrong.

You're thinking about the concept of integers.
This is getting off topic.