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Postby The Floridian Republic » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:30 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
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That is perhaps true, sir, but i would submit that he was elected according to the supreme law of our land, the Constitution of the United States.

Therefore, he is just as legitimate as any president who has come before. I think it is sad, sir, that so many have questioned the legitimacy of our new President. i hope that he rules with fairness and equity.


It's odd when someone says sir out of the blue. It comes off as patronising.


I was just trying to be polite :(

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Postby The Floridian Republic » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:34 am

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It's odd when someone says sir out of the blue. It comes off as patronising.


Especially when it's obvious that I am not one.



how is it obvious? i just assume everyone on the internet is a man unless told otherwise, and i tend to use 'sir' generically.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:36 am

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Especially when it's obvious that I am not one.



how is it obvious? i just assume everyone on the internet is a man unless told otherwise, and i tend to use 'sir' generically.

Ah, look, that was your first mistake. Assuming everyone is male. Second mistake, you didn't read her sig.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:37 am

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Especially when it's obvious that I am not one.



how is it obvious? i just assume everyone on the internet is a man unless told otherwise, and i tend to use 'sir' generically.

It's in the sig. Since you are new here the sig is the thing that beneath all of your posts. You can put just about anything you want there. Hers says that she's a female
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:37 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
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how is it obvious? i just assume everyone on the internet is a man unless told otherwise, and i tend to use 'sir' generically.

Ah, look, that was your first mistake. Assuming everyone is male. Second mistake, you didn't read her sig.

They are new so give them a break
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Postby The Floridian Republic » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:37 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The Floridian Republic wrote:

how is it obvious? i just assume everyone on the internet is a man unless told otherwise, and i tend to use 'sir' generically.

It's in the sig. Since you are new here the sig is the thing that beneath all of your posts. You can put just about anything you want there. Hers says that she's a female


oh, 'jenny' i didnt think it was such a big deal. i was just trying to be polite...

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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:42 am

The Floridian Republic wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
It's odd when someone says sir out of the blue. It comes off as patronising.


I was just trying to be polite :(


I didn't say that's what you were doing, I was just pointing it out to you for the future. People might think you're being patronising. :hug:
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:43 am

The Floridian Republic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It's in the sig. Since you are new here the sig is the thing that beneath all of your posts. You can put just about anything you want there. Hers says that she's a female


oh, 'jenny' i didnt think it was such a big deal. i was just trying to be polite...

It can be but you're new here. So I'd suggest dropping the "sir" thing. Just to be safe.
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Postby Seraven » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:50 am

Farnhamia wrote:First thread.
Second thread.

Demonstrations, intelligence indicating that Russia intentionally influenced the election towards Trump, a fight with a Broadway musical, Twitter feuds with Alec Baldwin, SNL, NBC, CNN, and a union representative (the last of which resulted in death threats for the rep), a strategist with ties to right-wing extremists and Neo-Nazis, figures in his own party openly breaking ranks against him, extra money being spent to keep his family safe because they want to stay in New York, cabinet appointees who seem to want to destroy the very department they head, a National Security advisor who promulgates outlandish conspiracy theories, ratcheting up military and diplomatic tensions with China, a proposed Secretary of State so close to the Russians that he faintly smells of borscht and vodka, and so much more...and it's been just a bit over a month. Imagine what the next four years have in store for us.

Join in! Let's start by talking about the hacking scandal discussed at length in the last thread. Just what in the bejabbers is going on here, and will Trump survive unscathed, or will a pall of illegitimacy stick to his Presidency as a result?


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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:25 am

Svebia wrote: it won't however Because liberals are insane


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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:20 am

How is the musical lineup for the inauguration? Last I heard it was pretty poor.
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Postby Philjia » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:26 am

Alvecia wrote:How is the musical lineup for the inauguration? Last I heard it was pretty poor.


- Talladega College marching band
- Some, but not all, of the Rockettes
- The Mormon Tabernacle Choir
- Former America's got Talent contestant Jackie Evancho
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:53 am

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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:54 am

Philjia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:How is the musical lineup for the inauguration? Last I heard it was pretty poor.


- Talladega College marching band
- Some, but not all, of the Rockettes
- The Mormon Tabernacle Choir
- Former America's got Talent contestant Jackie Evancho

Errr....who?
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Postby Maineiacs » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:43 am

Philjia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:How is the musical lineup for the inauguration? Last I heard it was pretty poor.


- Talladega College marching band
- Some, but not all, of the Rockettes
- Some, but not all, of The Mormon Tabernacle Choir
- Former America's got Talent contestant Jackie Evancho



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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:32 am

Thermodolia wrote:Someone wake me. Please tell me I'm dreaming. Trump vows ‘insurance for everybody’ in Obamacare replacement plan

oh mygod he says the plan is almost complete!

I don't believe a word of it but DAYAM if he were telling the truth he would be worthy of being president. who has been putting together this plan that no one in either party could come up with (rejecting the notion of an NHS or medicare for all). has he talked to anyone in the medical field, anyone in the insurance field, run any of it past the GAO to see if it is economically feasible?

ITS ALMOST DONE!
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:34 am

Now are we talking universal access, or universal entitlement?

Because universal access means everyone can get it... if they can pay. Universal Entitlement means everyone gets it with no strings attached.
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Postby Philjia » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:39 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Someone wake me. Please tell me I'm dreaming. Trump vows ‘insurance for everybody’ in Obamacare replacement plan

oh mygod he says the plan is almost complete!

I don't believe a word of it but DAYAM if he were telling the truth he would be worthy of being president. who has been putting together this plan that no one in either party could come up with (rejecting the notion of an NHS or medicare for all). has he talked to anyone in the medical field, anyone in the insurance field, run any of it past the GAO to see if it is economically feasible?

ITS ALMOST DONE!


If he actually pulled it off, it would be one of the most astounding political coups in US history. "We're repealing the filthy socialist Obamacare and replacing it with glorious capitalist universal healthcare... wait a minute..."
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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:39 am

Svebia wrote:For the left who like to pray to the bait
I am sharing this with as many of you “Clinton won the majority” whiners as I can. Our Founders in their infinite wisdom created the Electoral College to ensure each STATE was fairly represented and they accounted for population with the formula for the number of Electoral votes per state. They believed that one or two densely populated areas should not speak for the whole of the nation. This should finally put an end to the argument as to why the Electoral College makes sense over the majority ( it won't however Because liberals are insane):

- There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

- Trump won 3,084 of them. Clinton won 57.

- There are 62 counties in New York State. Trump won 46 of them. Clinton won 16.

- Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 2.5 million votes. In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan,
Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond). Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.

- These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles. The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles. When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of
territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election. Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t
speak for the rest of our country.

- Finally, Donald Trump campaigned as if to win 50 individual state elections as per the Constitution. He did it. So you want to say he doesn’t have a mandate from the States?

Meanwhile Clinton and her cronies continue to cry about Putin. Wah, wah, wah!!

Sorry. Not tired of winning yet!


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:39 am

Thermodolia wrote:Someone wake me. Please tell me I'm dreaming. Trump vows ‘insurance for everybody’ in Obamacare replacement plan


It'll be the best, the greatest healthcare.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:40 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Svebia wrote:
For the left who like to pray to the bait
I am sharing this with as many of you “Clinton won the majority” whiners as I can. Our Founders in their infinite wisdom created the Electoral College to ensure each STATE was fairly represented and they accounted for population with the formula for the number of Electoral votes per state. They believed that one or two densely populated areas should not speak for the whole of the nation. This should finally put an end to the argument as to why the Electoral College makes sense over the majority ( it won't however Because liberals are insane):

- There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

- Trump won 3,084 of them. Clinton won 57.

- There are 62 counties in New York State. Trump won 46 of them. Clinton won 16.

- Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 2.5 million votes. In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan,
Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond). Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.

- These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles. The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles. When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of
territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election. Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t
speak for the rest of our country.

- Finally, Donald Trump campaigned as if to win 50 individual state elections as per the Constitution. He did it. So you want to say he doesn’t have a mandate from the States?

Meanwhile Clinton and her cronies continue to cry about Putin. Wah, wah, wah!!

Sorry. Not tired of winning yet!


land doesn't vote.

Land Suffrage when?
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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:44 am

Vassenor wrote:Now are we talking universal access, or universal entitlement?

Because universal access means everyone can get it... if they can pay. Universal Entitlement means everyone gets it with no strings attached.

he didn't specify

I'm expecting him to say something like "its only $1000/month for each person, anyone can afford that!"
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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:46 am

Philjia wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:oh mygod he says the plan is almost complete!

I don't believe a word of it but DAYAM if he were telling the truth he would be worthy of being president. who has been putting together this plan that no one in either party could come up with (rejecting the notion of an NHS or medicare for all). has he talked to anyone in the medical field, anyone in the insurance field, run any of it past the GAO to see if it is economically feasible?

ITS ALMOST DONE!


If he actually pulled it off, it would be one of the most astounding political coups in US history. "We're repealing the filthy socialist Obamacare and replacing it with glorious capitalist universal healthcare... wait a minute..."


like I said it would mean that he really is fit to be president. Obamacare doesn't cover everyone. if trumpcare does WITH better access, lower premiums and deductibles it would be .....HUGE
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Postby Philjia » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:48 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Philjia wrote:
If he actually pulled it off, it would be one of the most astounding political coups in US history. "We're repealing the filthy socialist Obamacare and replacing it with glorious capitalist universal healthcare... wait a minute..."


like I said it would mean that he really is fit to be president. Obamacare doesn't cover everyone. if trumpcare does WITH better access, lower premiums and deductibles it would be .....HUGE


It would also completely wrong-foot the entire Washington establishment as they try to work out whether they're supposed to be supporting or opposing it.
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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:54 am

Philjia wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
like I said it would mean that he really is fit to be president. Obamacare doesn't cover everyone. if trumpcare does WITH better access, lower premiums and deductibles it would be .....HUGE


It would also completely wrong-foot the entire Washington establishment as they try to work out whether they're supposed to be supporting or opposing it.


it would cause chaos for sure. but its just the kind of thing the first 100 days are meant for--to get through stuff on the momentum of a successful election
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