I damn near was. I bled for this cause, and given a chance I will again. As is, I'm in the purgatory of championing the cause where I can
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by Internationalist Bastard » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:44 pm
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:44 pm
by Vassenor » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:45 pm
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:46 pm
Vassenor wrote:So everyone was lauding Trump for being isolationist and not wanting to invade other countries for fatuous reasons.
Now he's proposing to invade Iraq and Mexico for fatuous reasons.
by The East Marches » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:46 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:The East Marches wrote:
Due to my own background, I can not in good faith ask men to die for a cause in a distant land that is not their concern. Especially not when I believe whatever meager gains which might achieved will be thrown away and all they will earn is a stab in the back by their own at home. You might be ok with empathy bordering on the suicidal but I am not. Especially not when it is your joes doing the dying because somebody else fucked up. Your empathy doesn't count out there, they don't understand it. There is no good guy/bad guy. The whole place is barely civilized. They don't give a shit about human rights or higher ideals. If you want to pledge yourself for such a cause, good luck. I only hope my country isn't involved.
They have a concept in good and bad as they qustion why their children are dying. Our people will not die in some far away land for no reason. They die on Earth, to give hope to humanity
by Lady Scylla » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:46 pm
Blakk Metal wrote:Gauthier wrote:So register and deport American Muslims as well?
Or you could actually stand up to Saudi Arabia.Vassenor wrote:So how would the current measures have prevented any of the terrorist incidents from the last two decades?
That wouldn't. That's the problem.Personally I do not understand why everyone is falling over each other to embody ISIS' spiel about the West hating Islam and wanting to destroy it.
Nobody said Islam should destroyed.Lady Scylla wrote:
The problem you're having is thinking all Muslims want to attack us.
I never said that.
by Gauthier » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:46 pm
by Vassenor » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:47 pm
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:47 pm
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:48 pm
by Vassenor » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:48 pm
by Gauthier » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:48 pm
by Internationalist Bastard » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:48 pm
The East Marches wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:They have a concept in good and bad as they qustion why their children are dying. Our people will not die in some far away land for no reason. They die on Earth, to give hope to humanity
No they don't. Is that why mothers hold their children up to shoot out of windows with weapons so you have to kill them? They don't question it because they are a part of it. They die in some shitty valley thousands of miles away so some rich person with stock options can make an extra dollar off the bombs dropped and some moralist in DC can claim we are spreading civilization.
by Farnhamia » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:49 pm
by Gauthier » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:49 pm
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by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:49 pm
by The East Marches » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:50 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:The East Marches wrote:
No they don't. Is that why mothers hold their children up to shoot out of windows with weapons so you have to kill them? They don't question it because they are a part of it. They die in some shitty valley thousands of miles away so some rich person with stock options can make an extra dollar off the bombs dropped and some moralist in DC can claim we are spreading civilization.
Do police die in some shitty alley for those reasons?
by Morgantown West Virginia » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:51 pm
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:51 pm
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