Trump MAGAThread III: Steak, Vodka, Casinos, and America

[Conserative Morality]

So how would the current measures have prevented any of the terrorist incidents from the last two decades?

Well, all the terrorists who came from those 7 countries that committed terrorist attacks in the United States would not have been able to.

So, all 0 of them.

[Galloism]

Trump tells Mexican president he's just going to send our military into Mexico to take out the "bad hombres".

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

Worth noting, the exact tone of the statement is under some dispute. But you can't just make this shit up.

[Vassenor]

Sure, let them continue to attack us.

Islam isn't attacking anyone. Nutjobs who happen to be nutjobs about Islam are attacking people

In both senses of "about", as it happens.

[Galloism]

Well, all the terrorists who came from those 7 countries that committed terrorist attacks in the United States would not have been able to.

So, all 0 of them.

[Gauthier]

Trump tells Mexican president he's just going to send our military into Mexico to take out the "bad hombres".

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

Worth noting, the exact tone of the statement is under some dispute. But you can't just make this shit up.

So he'll have the military pick off migrants. Civil rights galore.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Trump tells Mexican president he's just going to send our military into Mexico to take out the "bad hombres".

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

Worth noting, the exact tone of the statement is under some dispute. But you can't just make this shit up.

Mexican Expedition part 2?

[Big Jim P]

Hardly. Like millions of other Trump supports, I am a common man. Deplorable, I know.

No, the word here is "hornswoggled".

Not quite. I chose the better option.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Trump tells Mexican president he's just going to send our military into Mexico to take out the "bad hombres".

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

Worth noting, the exact tone of the statement is under some dispute. But you can't just make this shit up.

Did he seriously say hombres? Come on

[Gauthier]

Trump tells Mexican president he's just going to send our military into Mexico to take out the "bad hombres".



Worth noting, the exact tone of the statement is under some dispute. But you can't just make this shit up.

Mexican Expedition part 2?

Shoot up groups of migrants and maybe a smuggler or two, back off when cartels show up, declare victory.

[Galloism]

Trump tells Mexican president he's just going to send our military into Mexico to take out the "bad hombres".



Worth noting, the exact tone of the statement is under some dispute. But you can't just make this shit up.

Did he seriously say hombres? Come on

Trump has used the phrase "bad hombres" before. In an October presidential debate, he vowed to get rid the U.S. of "drug lords" and "bad people."

"We have some bad hombres here, and we're going to get them out," he said. The phrase ricocheted on social media with Trump opponents saying he was denigrating immigrants.

[Vassenor]

So according to the U.S. government, only Islamic Extremism is considered to be terrorism now.

[The East Marches]

I would hardly call your method humane. I think it would not accomplish anything but large losses and an overall strategic defeat. I am of the opinion if it doesn't give a reasonable chance of victory, there is no reason to attempt it. You don't roll the iron dice if you are sure to lose in the long run.

We take volunteers. Every last poor dumb son of a bitch out there knows they can die any day for it. And we might lose. We might lose our lives, our limbs, our hopes and dreams. But we won't lose our empathy for our fellow man. I stand by my commitment to that, and if the army would take me, I'd march right the fuck back into Africa and keep doing it. My boyfriend lost his leg to operation. My husband died on his own, bringing those same ideals to him off duty. We will keep dying so the innocent don't, and as long as there is one last dumb piece of shit willing to kill themselves to keep as many people alive as possible, we will be humans.
That is why we fight a war we might not win

Due to my own background, I can not in good faith ask men to die for a cause in a distant land that is not their concern. Especially not when I believe whatever meager gains which might achieved will be thrown away and all they will earn is a stab in the back by their own at home. You might be ok with empathy bordering on the suicidal but I am not. Especially not when it is your joes doing the dying because somebody else fucked up. Your empathy doesn't count out there, they don't understand it. There is no good guy/bad guy. The whole place is barely civilized. They don't give a shit about human rights or higher ideals. If you want to pledge yourself for such a cause, good luck. I only hope my country isn't involved.

[Gauthier]

Trump tells Mexican president he's just going to send our military into Mexico to take out the "bad hombres".



Worth noting, the exact tone of the statement is under some dispute. But you can't just make this shit up.

Did he seriously say hombres? Come on

This is the same man who considers a taco bowl (an American invention) a symbol of Mexican unity.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Did he seriously say hombres? Come on

Trump has used the phrase "bad hombres" before. In an October presidential debate, he vowed to get rid the U.S. of "drug lords" and "bad people."

"We have some bad hombres here, and we're going to get them out," he said. The phrase ricocheted on social media with Trump opponents saying he was denigrating immigrants.

Ugh, get this man a snake in his boot

[Blakk Metal]

Sure, let them continue to attack us.

So register and deport American Muslims as well?

Or you could actually stand up to Saudi Arabia.

So how would the current measures have prevented any of the terrorist incidents from the last two decades?

That wouldn't. That's the problem.

Personally I do not understand why everyone is falling over each other to embody ISIS' spiel about the West hating Islam and wanting to destroy it.

Nobody said Islam should destroyed.

Sure, let them continue to attack us.

The problem you're having is thinking all Muslims want to attack us.

I never said that.

[Gauthier]

So according to the U.S. government, only Islamic Extremism is considered to be terrorism now.

All the Timothy McVeigh fanboys are creaming in their pants right now.

[Zebulor]

That's up to 2 million people. Hundreds of Thousands of families, children, sons, daughters, husbands, wives. The local mailman, that gal who smiles at you when you get your coffee. All dead

The son who fought against democratic governance because his side lost once after controlling the government for half a century. The local mailman, who fought for the right of people to own other people on account of their skin color. The gal who spied on Union forces and caused dozens of casualties directly from her reports to the Confederate military. Dead. Unable to spread their bile. Unable to support the KKK in the post-Civil War South. Unable to lynch innocents for being 'uppity'. Unable to enforce a system of segregation, sharecropping, and arbitrary imprisonment little better than slavery.

I think that the solution most appropriate for the era would not be outright mass extermination, but something more like the trail of tears.

[Gauthier]

So register and deport American Muslims as well?

Or you could actually stand up to Saudi Arabia.

or even simply ban all Muslims

Does that include American Muslims?

[Betoni]

Trump tells Mexican president he's just going to send our military into Mexico to take out the "bad hombres".

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

Worth noting, the exact tone of the statement is under some dispute. But you can't just make this shit up.

That would be interesting, almost like Russia taking care of bad hombres in Ukraine, no?

[Internationalist Bastard]

We take volunteers. Every last poor dumb son of a bitch out there knows they can die any day for it. And we might lose. We might lose our lives, our limbs, our hopes and dreams. But we won't lose our empathy for our fellow man. I stand by my commitment to that, and if the army would take me, I'd march right the fuck back into Africa and keep doing it. My boyfriend lost his leg to operation. My husband died on his own, bringing those same ideals to him off duty. We will keep dying so the innocent don't, and as long as there is one last dumb piece of shit willing to kill themselves to keep as many people alive as possible, we will be humans.
That is why we fight a war we might not win

Due to my own background, I can not in good faith ask men to die for a cause in a distant land that is not their concern. Especially not when I believe whatever meager gains which might achieved will be thrown away and all they will earn is a stab in the back by their own at home. You might be ok with empathy bordering on the suicidal but I am not. Especially not when it is your joes doing the dying because somebody else fucked up. Your empathy doesn't count out there, they don't understand it. There is no good guy/bad guy. The whole place is barely civilized. They don't give a shit about human rights or higher ideals. If you want to pledge yourself for such a cause, good luck. I only hope my country isn't involved.

They have a concept in good and bad as they qustion why their children are dying. Our people will not die in some far away land for no reason. They die on Earth, to give hope to humanity

[Gauthier]

Trump tells Mexican president he's just going to send our military into Mexico to take out the "bad hombres".



Worth noting, the exact tone of the statement is under some dispute. But you can't just make this shit up.

That would be interesting, almost like Russia taking care of bar hombres in Ukraine, no?

And by "bad hombres" he means "Most likely unarmed migrants".

[Internationalist Bastard]

So register and deport American Muslims as well?

Or you could actually stand up to Saudi Arabia.

So how would the current measures have prevented any of the terrorist incidents from the last two decades?

That wouldn't. That's the problem.

Personally I do not understand why everyone is falling over each other to embody ISIS' spiel about the West hating Islam and wanting to destroy it.

Nobody said Islam should destroyed.

The problem you're having is thinking all Muslims want to attack us.

I never said that.

Your phrasing grouped Muslims with terrorists

[Betoni]

Due to my own background, I can not in good faith ask men to die for a cause in a distant land that is not their concern. Especially not when I believe whatever meager gains which might achieved will be thrown away and all they will earn is a stab in the back by their own at home. You might be ok with empathy bordering on the suicidal but I am not. Especially not when it is your joes doing the dying because somebody else fucked up. Your empathy doesn't count out there, they don't understand it. There is no good guy/bad guy. The whole place is barely civilized. They don't give a shit about human rights or higher ideals. If you want to pledge yourself for such a cause, good luck. I only hope my country isn't involved.

They have a concept in good and bad as they qustion why their children are dying. Our people will not die in some far away land for no reason. They die on Earth, to give hope to humanity

hah, that is what they all tell them. Lucky you aren't the one dying.

[Telconi]

I don't see why we and Donald Trump are discussing ethically dubious slaughter when it would be easier to stand up to Saudi Arabia and co, or even simply ban all Muslims, both of which would be easier and nicer than wholesale mass slaughter.

Or just leave Muslims alone.

That's too difficult. People have some innate need to pander identity politics and lump folks by demographics.

[Romalae]

Trump tells Mexican president he's just going to send our military into Mexico to take out the "bad hombres".

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

Worth noting, the exact tone of the statement is under some dispute. But you can't just make this shit up.

In fairness, Mexico has sent its military up to the US before in recent times.

But it was after Hurricane Katrina, and they were dispensing aid to victims.