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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:04 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Well the petition on WeThePeople wanting Trump to release his tax returns has almost 300,000 signatures, 200,000 more than the threshold needed for a response from the White House.

"No you losers, it's still being audited by the IRS!"

Well Conway, his secretary of alternative facts, said that he wasn't going to do it because Americans had more interest in what their own tax returns would look like under Trump's admin than Trump's tax returns.
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No way.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:05 pm

Libertarian nationalist wrote:
Esternial wrote:So the socialists are the government?

Huh.

Are you talking to us from an alternate dimension?

The socialists DO run the government, they even run the corporations. They are doing everything in their power to stop Donald Trump from saving America.


Wait a second.

If socialists run the corporations, and Donald Trump is trying to save America, but Trump is the owner of a corporation and he runs it along with his family. Does that mean Trump is a socialist?!

*looks at Trump, then looks at the definition of socialism*

Uhhh.... halp?
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:06 pm

Bloodhurst wrote:
Roskian Federation wrote:
I would gladly display unity under a republican president who didn't do the following in just five days:
1: Attack obamacare directly, putting 27 million (including my own family's) healthcare at risk
2: Remove us from the TPP, meaning that prices will go up, the dollar will get weaker
3: Decide 30 billion dollars was enough to build a worthless wall
4: didn't decide to directly attack sanctuary cities
5: didn't attack all science based things in the government


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And in Alternative Facts, the insurance mandate was not the only thing the Republicans in Congress allowed to pass, was not based on a Heritage Foundation idea, was not implemented in Massachussetts by Mitt Romney, and was not universally praised by Republicans until Obama adopted it and then it had to be put down like a zombie bite victim.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Bloodhurst
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Postby Bloodhurst » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:06 pm

Bloodhurst wrote:
Roskian Federation wrote:
I would gladly display unity under a republican president who didn't do the following in just five days:
1: Attack obamacare directly, putting 27 million (including my own family's) healthcare at risk
2: Remove us from the TPP, meaning that prices will go up, the dollar will get weaker
3: Decide 30 billion dollars was enough to build a worthless wall
4: didn't decide to directly attack sanctuary cities
5: didn't attack all science based things in the government


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I do agree with you on the matter of the wall however

whats the point of a wall if more people would be leaving than coming in? :meh:
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Postby Hittanryan » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:06 pm

Bloodhurst wrote:
Roskian Federation wrote:
I would gladly display unity under a republican president who didn't do the following in just five days:
1: Attack obamacare directly, putting 27 million (including my own family's) healthcare at risk
2: Remove us from the TPP, meaning that prices will go up, the dollar will get weaker
3: Decide 30 billion dollars was enough to build a worthless wall
4: didn't decide to directly attack sanctuary cities
5: didn't attack all science based things in the government


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Defend your shitty president on his own merits or GTFO.
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:07 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:
Libertarian nationalist wrote:The socialists DO run the government, they even run the corporations. They are doing everything in their power to stop Donald Trump from saving America.

Literally what? Socialist corporations? Does that even go together as a thing?

a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law.
It might depend on which definition you're using and what types to be more exact but by google's definition they can go together.
I'd doubt it's what LN is thinking though unless there's more influential Co-ops than I thought. He's probably thinking of supporters of the status quo of "Not small enough government."
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:08 pm

And somewhere in the afterlife, Hugo Chaves is going "DAMN IT! WHY COULDN'T I STAY ALIVE LONG ENOUGH FOR THIS ASSHOLE TO BE ELECTED PRESIDENT!?"
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:08 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:
Libertarian nationalist wrote:The socialists DO run the government, they even run the corporations. They are doing everything in their power to stop Donald Trump from saving America.

Literally what? Socialist corporations? Does that even go together as a thing?

No. It would seem there is another person who does not know what socialism is.
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Bloodhurst
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Postby Bloodhurst » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:08 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Bloodhurst wrote:

Defend your shitty president on his own merits or GTFO.


Uh oh, WATCH OUT GUYS!

I have to say what he wants me to or he will FORCE me out of the thread!







triggered
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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:09 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:Literally what? Socialist corporations? Does that even go together as a thing?

No. It would seem there is another person who does not know what socialism is.


I mean, basically by his definition, Trump would be a socialist.
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Bloodhurst
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Postby Bloodhurst » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:11 pm

That's peculiar.

There's usually 2 new responses on this thread every minute.
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Call me a bigot all you want, I really don't give a shit.

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Postby The Saint James Islands » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:13 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Libertarian nationalist wrote:The socialists DO run the government, they even run the corporations. They are doing everything in their power to stop Donald Trump from saving America.


Wait a second.

If socialists run the corporations, and Donald Trump is trying to save America, but Trump is the owner of a corporation and he runs it along with his family. Does that mean Trump is a socialist?!

*looks at Trump, then looks at the definition of socialism*

Uhhh.... halp?

Can you not bellyfeel the truthiness? I am ashamed of you, comrade.
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Postby Hittanryan » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:19 pm

Bloodhurst wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:Defend your shitty president on his own merits or GTFO.


Uh oh, WATCH OUT GUYS!

I have to say what he wants me to or he will FORCE me out of the thread!







triggered

Thanks for conceding the argument. You have no evidence to refute the claims made against Donald Trump, so you have lost.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:22 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Bloodhurst wrote:
Uh oh, WATCH OUT GUYS!

I have to say what he wants me to or he will FORCE me out of the thread!







triggered

Thanks for conceding the argument. You have no evidence to refute the claims made against Donald Trump, so you have lost.

Don't need evidence in this age. Just faith and enough hand-clapping to revive a thousand dead fairies.
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The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:44 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Kerthenia wrote:
Do you, or do you not want to see this country divided? Because it sounds like you do. Being obstructionist now will not help you. Later, maybe-- but for now it makes you look bitter.


I see this country divided and I'm not even in the Trump camp or in the liberal camp.

The only good thing for me is that I don't have to put up with it being a thing I have to be constantly up against.


My political philosophy is this:

Centrist, and Moderate politics are the best and most reasonable, but it is imperative to remain pragmatic. Do not fall for idealism, do not fall for populism, do not be quick to radicalise or take radical actions, do not be quick to use violence. Look for compromise, look for alternatives. However, understand that sometimes it is necessary, although unfortunate, to have to shed blood to maintain or set things right. If such actions must be taken, take full accountability, never lose focus.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:46 pm

I should add on to that by also saying that one should always oppose both left and right radicalism.

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Postby Timmy City » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:55 pm

St Salvador wrote:The Mexican election is next year. I wonder how many of the candidates are going to be Anti-U.S. At this rate a fair number of them I'd imagine.

At this point it will be expected of them, unless Trump becomes Simon Bolivar.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:56 pm

Timmy City wrote:
St Salvador wrote:The Mexican election is next year. I wonder how many of the candidates are going to be Anti-U.S. At this rate a fair number of them I'd imagine.

At this point it will be expected of them, unless Trump becomes Simon Bolivar.

The only things Latino Trump ever wants to liberate are the women from their clothes and panties.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:10 pm

Timmy City wrote:
St Salvador wrote:The Mexican election is next year. I wonder how many of the candidates are going to be Anti-U.S. At this rate a fair number of them I'd imagine.

At this point it will be expected of them, unless Trump becomes Simon Bolivar.

There is already a favorite.
Ex-Mexico City mayor, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, leftist whose run for prez 2 times already. Lost in 2006 by like less than 50,000 votes in a very controversial election. His party, the National Regeneration Movement is pretty much "Mexico First" and is an activist all year round, including right now. He goes around the country giving speeches and is pretty active on Twitter against trump and the Mexican president.

All the other parties are in too much disarray to really put forward a strong candidate.
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No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

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Postby UCE Watchdog of the Puppets » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:12 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Timmy City wrote:At this point it will be expected of them, unless Trump becomes Simon Bolivar.

There is already a favorite.
Ex-Mexico City mayor, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, leftist whose run for prez 2 times already. Lost in 2006 by like less than 50,000 votes in a very controversial election. His party, the National Regeneration Movement is pretty much "Mexico First" and is an activist all year round, including right now. He goes around the country giving speeches and is pretty active on Twitter against trump and the Mexican president.

All the other parties are in too much disarray to really put forward a strong candidate.

So he's el trump mexicano, even though he's anti-Trump?
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:13 pm

UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:There is already a favorite.
Ex-Mexico City mayor, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, leftist whose run for prez 2 times already. Lost in 2006 by like less than 50,000 votes in a very controversial election. His party, the National Regeneration Movement is pretty much "Mexico First" and is an activist all year round, including right now. He goes around the country giving speeches and is pretty active on Twitter against trump and the Mexican president.

All the other parties are in too much disarray to really put forward a strong candidate.

So he's el trump mexicano, even though he's anti-Trump?

That's how antibodies form.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby UCE Watchdog of the Puppets » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:17 pm

Gauthier wrote:
UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:So he's el trump mexicano, even though he's anti-Trump?

That's how antibodies form.

:rofl: I guess it is, though...
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Postby St Salvador » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:18 pm

Tomorrow he meets the Prime minister of the UK oh boy.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:19 pm

UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:There is already a favorite.
Ex-Mexico City mayor, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, leftist whose run for prez 2 times already. Lost in 2006 by like less than 50,000 votes in a very controversial election. His party, the National Regeneration Movement is pretty much "Mexico First" and is an activist all year round, including right now. He goes around the country giving speeches and is pretty active on Twitter against trump and the Mexican president.

All the other parties are in too much disarray to really put forward a strong candidate.

So he's el trump mexicano, even though he's anti-Trump?


I guess some context is necessary.

Many Mexicans are disgruntled with how globalization hit them and benefited the Mexican elite and foreign investors at the expense of the working class.

Yes, Mexico-U.S. trade seems to favor Mexico, but that's skin deep. Over here, as people may know, we're running a trade deficit with Mexico, but that's fine for the consumer, as we get cheap shit from Mexico at the expense of their workers. In many ways, when people say the Mexican people will lose from Trump breaking NAFTA, that isn't exactly true, as only the Mexican elite will suffer anyways. The Mexican worker has seen very little, if at all, of those billions of dollars in trade. So running on a left-wing, nationalist return to Mexican industries for Mexicans echoes the cries of the 90s when the effects of NAFTA were deeply felt among the poor.
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:19 pm

St Salvador wrote:Tomorrow he meets the Prime minister of the UK oh boy.

And the Daily Mail Headline reads, "MAY GETS GRABBED"
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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