Dylann Roof sentenced to death

[Astrolinium]

I'm generally opposed to the death penalty, but, you know, I find it difficult to be upset about Dylann Roof receiving it.

[Chestaan]

Opposed to the death penalty so obviously opposed to this sentence. The strangest thing I found with this case is that people are so wary of calling Roof a terrorist, but that might be because I come from a country which doesn't immediately think Muslim when they hear the word terrorist.

You'll get no objections from me when it comes to calling that shitbag the terrorist he is. If he were on fire, I wouldn't piss on him to put it out.

It's mostly the media that I have a problem with, partially because they are the ones that frame the narrative around cases like this. If they had referred to these killings as "A Terrorist Attack" - which it was, then more people would feel fine calling him a terrorist. As it stands a lot of people wouldn't even think to call him a terrorist. If I remember right, there was something similar with Brevik when he committed his atrocity. For me, living and growing up in Ireland, it's normal to think of a white guy as a terrorist, but evidently it's not the case in other countries.

[Thermodolia]

What game? The consequence of shortening the process to 5 years is that the innocent will die, and that one of your relatives, or even you might be that innocent.

Well the solution is the legal standard for the orginal conviction. Beyond a reasonable doubt still leaves a possibility of mistake. For death penalty it should be beyond a shadow of a doubt. Which is really hard to prove.

This case meets the standard. If there is any possible doubt the death penalty should not be available.

So would this standard be considered before the death penalty is handed down or after?

[Romalae]

I personally think he deserved it. Any human that can kill so many innocent people in a place of family and safety is a truly horrible person and a menace to society. I don't think race relations will be altered by his execution, as even most white supremacists thought his actions where horrifying, and i am sure black people will be happy to have some justice for crimes committed against their people.

We should all be happy to have justice, not just black people.

[Thermodolia]

Opposed to the death penalty so obviously opposed to this sentence. The strangest thing I found with this case is that people are so wary of calling Roof a terrorist, but that might be because I come from a country which doesn't immediately think Muslim when they hear the word terrorist.

You'll get no objections from me when it comes to calling that shitbag the terrorist he is. If he were on fire, I wouldn't piss on him to put it out.

Well I might but only if he was close to catching others on fire

[Chameliya]

I'm glad he got convicted, I hate that he was sentenced to death.

[Southerly Gentleman]

I personally think he deserved it. Any human that can kill so many innocent people in a place of family and safety is a truly horrible person and a menace to society. I don't think race relations will be altered by his execution, as even most white supremacists thought his actions where horrifying, and i am sure black people will be happy to have some justice for crimes committed against their people.

Killing Roof won't bring those dead black churchgoers back, nor will it somehow rectify the situation.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I'm generally opposed to the death penalty, but, you know, I find it difficult to be upset about Dylann Roof receiving it.

^this

[The Saint James Islands]

You'll get no objections from me when it comes to calling that shitbag the terrorist he is. If he were on fire, I wouldn't piss on him to put it out.

Well I might but only if he was close to catching others on fire

Or we can quarantine him with something flame-retardant and put everyone else out. With water, of course.

[Thermodolia]

I personally think he deserved it. Any human that can kill so many innocent people in a place of family and safety is a truly horrible person and a menace to society. I don't think race relations will be altered by his execution, as even most white supremacists thought his actions where horrifying, and i am sure black people will be happy to have some justice for crimes committed against their people.

Killing Roof won't bring those dead black churchgoers back, nor will it somehow rectify the situation.

I don't care. He's not fit to breathe the air on this planet

[Salus Maior]

Dylann roof has today been sentenced to death for his activities towards blacks. I personally believe his death penalty should be immediately reversed. the Jury should be ashamed of themselves. The death penalty is not appropriate.

He's been sentenced for murdering innocent people in a Church, with no regret or remorse for the deed.

You don't get sentenced to death for hate crimes, so your little jab of "sentenced to death for his activities towards blacks" is bullshit, frankly.

I'm fine with sentencing ruthless, remorseless murderers to death. Doesn't matter what color the victims happen to be.

[Novus America]

Well the solution is the legal standard for the orginal conviction. Beyond a reasonable doubt still leaves a possibility of mistake. For death penalty it should be beyond a shadow of a doubt. Which is really hard to prove.

This case meets the standard. If there is any possible doubt the death penalty should not be available.

So would this standard be considered before the death penalty is handed down or after?

Before. AND after. The standard should apply for the the death penalty to be given before it is first handed down. Then it would be subject to review de novo on appeal.

[Southerly Gentleman]

Killing Roof won't bring those dead black churchgoers back, nor will it somehow rectify the situation.

I don't care. He's not fit to breathe the air on this planet

That's exactly what he thought about the people he killed.

[Novus America]

Well the solution is the legal standard for the orginal conviction. Beyond a reasonable doubt still leaves a possibility of mistake. For death penalty it should be beyond a shadow of a doubt. Which is really hard to prove.

This case meets the standard. If there is any possible doubt the death penalty should not be available.

So would this standard be considered before the death penalty is handed down or after?

Before. AND after. The standard should apply for the the death penalty to be given before it is first handed down. Then it would be subject to review de novo on appeal.

The prosecution would not be permitted to appeal a decision that the standard is not met. But the defense could appeal a ruling it is met.

[Salus Maior]

Killing Roof won't bring those dead black churchgoers back, nor will it somehow rectify the situation.

It'll remove a dangerous human being from the planet who has no qualms about killing innocent people. So, I'd call that a win for civilization.

[Novorossitov]

Life sentence him instead. A ruined and wasted life is worse than a short one.

[Republic of Canador]

You'll get no objections from me when it comes to calling that shitbag the terrorist he is. If he were on fire, I wouldn't piss on him to put it out.

Well I might but only if he was close to catching others on fire

Pissing a fire out is one of the greatest feelings in the world. I'd do it, then have him get set on fire again and do it once more.

[The Realm of Lordaeron]

I don't care. He's not fit to breathe the air on this planet

That's exactly what he thought about the people he killed.

Everybody deserves to breathe air on this planet, period. It's not something that's up for debate -- it's a fundamental human right in my opinion.

[Southerly Gentleman]

Killing Roof won't bring those dead black churchgoers back, nor will it somehow rectify the situation.

It'll remove a dangerous human being from the planet who has no qualms about killing innocent people. So, I'd call that a win for civilization.

That's a very dangerous moral position. It's safer to operate from the axiom that all human life is sacred.

[Greed and Death]

Shit, come to think of it, the years on death row does cost more money. Taxpayers always come first, don't kill him then.

He does not seem too keen on appealing his sentence so it might be a cheap execution.

[Greed and Death]

Life sentence him instead. A ruined and wasted life is worse than a short one.

Maybe torture him for the next 6 decades.

[Novorossitov]

Life sentence him instead. A ruined and wasted life is worse than a short one.

Maybe torture him for the next 6 decades.

Obviously not, but a death sentence just doesn't seem right.

[The Realm of Lordaeron]

Life sentence him instead. A ruined and wasted life is worse than a short one.

Maybe torture him for the next 6 decades.

Torture is wrong, we've gone down that path and doesn't solve any of our problems.

What do you gain from torturing that fucked up kid? Nothing, you only fuck up your own morals and self-worth. You lower yourself to his level.

Torturing prisoners is something we should leave to ISIS and other savages.

Let's not repeat the mistakes of the past.

[Sleet Clans]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/us/dylann-roof-trial/index.html

Dylann roof has today been sentenced to death for his activities towards blacks. I personally believe his death penalty should be immediately reversed. the Jury should be ashamed of themselves. The death penalty is not appropriate.

Regardless, he has purportedly admitted some sort of guilt for this accused activity, and so the Jury subsequently found him guilty and sentenced him to death today.

Do you think Dylann Roof should have his sentence pardoned? How do you think this bodes for White-Black relations? How do you feel about his purported activities and subsequent retaliation?

For mass murderers like him? Kill them. Kill them all.

[Gauthier]

So instead of rotting away forgotten he gets to whore more attention for white supremacy shit and waste more government money. Yeeah.