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Dylann Roof sentenced to death

Postby Oklahoman State » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:35 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/us/dylann-roof-trial/index.html

Dylann roof has today been sentenced to death for his activities towards blacks. I personally believe his death penalty should be immediately reversed. the Jury should be ashamed of themselves. The death penalty is not appropriate.

Regardless, he has purportedly admitted some sort of guilt for this accused activity, and so the Jury subsequently found him guilty and sentenced him to death today.

Do you think Dylann Roof should have his sentence pardoned? How do you think this bodes for White-Black relations? How do you feel about his purported activities and subsequent retaliation?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:36 pm

Oklahoman State wrote:Dylann roof has today been sentenced to death for his activities towards blacks. I personally believe his death penalty should be immediately reversed. the Jury should be ashamed of themselves. The death penalty is not appropriate.

Regardless, he has purportedly admitted some sort of guilt for this accused activity, and so the Jury subsequently found him guilty and sentenced him to death today.


...How is capital punishment not appropriate for murder in states where it is on the books?
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:36 pm

Source, btw.

Good riddance.

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Postby Uxupox » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:37 pm

Oklahoman State wrote:Dylann roof has today been sentenced to death for his activities towards blacks. I personally believe his death penalty should be immediately reversed. the Jury should be ashamed of themselves. The death penalty is not appropriate.

Regardless, he has purportedly admitted some sort of guilt for this accused activity, and so the Jury subsequently found him guilty and sentenced him to death today.

Do you think Dylann Roof should have his sentence pardoned? How do you think this bodes for White-Black relations? How do you feel about his purported activities and subsequent retaliation?


A good judgement to these cold blooded murderer.
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Postby Oklahoman State » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:37 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Source, btw.

Good riddance.


Thanks, i put it in the OP.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:37 pm

Oklahoman State wrote:Dylann roof has today been sentenced to death for his activities towards blacks. I personally believe his death penalty should be immediately reversed. the Jury should be ashamed of themselves. The death penalty is not appropriate.

Regardless, he has purportedly admitted some sort of guilt for this accused activity, and so the Jury subsequently found him guilty and sentenced him to death today.

Do you think Dylann Roof should have his sentence pardoned? How do you think this bodes for White-Black relations?

I oppose the death penalty, though I suspect for different reasons than you.


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Oklahoman State wrote:Dylann roof has today been sentenced to death for his activities towards blacks. I personally believe his death penalty should be immediately reversed. the Jury should be ashamed of themselves. The death penalty is not appropriate.

Regardless, he has purportedly admitted some sort of guilt for this accused activity, and so the Jury subsequently found him guilty and sentenced him to death today.


...How is capital punishment not appropriate for murder in states where it is on the books?

20 qwatloos say it's because Roof shot black people.
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Postby The Realm of Lordaeron » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:38 pm

I disagree with the Death Penalty, i think he should get a life sentence instead. This is not based on the race of the offender, just my belief on the death penalty.

That being said, his crime was both aggravated and horrific. He certainly deserved the conviction he got, though not the final judgment of death.

He's not better than a member of ISIS as far as i'm concerned.
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Postby Soviet Farm » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:39 pm

Why isn't the death penalty not appropriate

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:39 pm

Generally, as a Christian, I oppose the death penalty by the way, but in cases like this, I really can't say "DON'T DO IT." What other options are there? The kid is permanently fucked and killed a ton of people, a lethal injection is probably a good idea here.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:40 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Generally, as a Christian, I oppose the death penalty by the way, but in cases like this, I really can't say "DON'T DO IT." What other options are there? The kid is permanently fucked and killed a ton of people, a lethal injection is probably a good idea here.

Life sentences are a thing.
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Postby Estruia » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:40 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Oklahoman State wrote:Dylann roof has today been sentenced to death for his activities towards blacks. I personally believe his death penalty should be immediately reversed. the Jury should be ashamed of themselves. The death penalty is not appropriate.

Regardless, he has purportedly admitted some sort of guilt for this accused activity, and so the Jury subsequently found him guilty and sentenced him to death today.


...How is capital punishment not appropriate for murder in states where it is on the books?


We teach people that killing is wrong... by killing people. Yeah, that totally makes sense. He's a monster for what he did, and he will get his one day, but this whole " a life for a life" mentality is downright wrong.
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Postby The Realm of Lordaeron » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:41 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Generally, as a Christian, I oppose the death penalty by the way, but in cases like this, I really can't say "DON'T DO IT." What other options are there? The kid is permanently fucked and killed a ton of people, a lethal injection is probably a good idea here.


I disagree, the death penalty is never appropriate. Humans have a right to life, even the scummiest humans. Plus the chance of accidentally killing an innocent man , and the fact it cost more to execute someone than imprison them for life, has lead me to believe that the death penalty should be abolished.

That's on top of all the moral consequences of the death penalty.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:41 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Generally, as a Christian, I oppose the death penalty by the way, but in cases like this, I really can't say "DON'T DO IT." What other options are there? The kid is permanently fucked and killed a ton of people, a lethal injection is probably a good idea here.

Life sentences are a thing.


Sure....but a shot to the arm seems more effective.

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Postby Saiwania » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:41 pm

Practically speaking, doesn't this mean that he'll spend a decade or longer on death row?
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Postby Uxupox » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:42 pm

Estruia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
...How is capital punishment not appropriate for murder in states where it is on the books?


We teach people that killing is wrong... by killing people. Yeah, that totally makes sense. He's a monster for what he did, and he will get his one day, but this whole " a life for a life" mentality is downright wrong.


It's a very simple solution. If you take a life in cold blooded murderer for absolutely no reason whatsoever than to satisfy some bullshit carnal desire (Robbery or some type of crime) then you also don't deserve to live since you didn't allow that person to live their life fully and completely.
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Postby The Realm of Lordaeron » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:42 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Life sentences are a thing.


Sure....but a shot to the arm seems more effective.


It's not. It's actually more expensive, more risky and you run the potential of accidentally killing the wrong person. Plus, killing doesn't bring back the dead, it just satiates our perverted human desire for social vengeance.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:42 pm

The Realm of Lordaeron wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Generally, as a Christian, I oppose the death penalty by the way, but in cases like this, I really can't say "DON'T DO IT." What other options are there? The kid is permanently fucked and killed a ton of people, a lethal injection is probably a good idea here.


I disagree, the death penalty is never appropriate. Humans have a right to life, even the scummiest humans. Plus the chance of accidentally killing an innocent man , and the fact it cost more to execute someone than imprison them for life, has lead me to believe that the death penalty should be abolished.

That's on top of all the moral consequences of the death penalty.


I just think it should be used sparingly, very seldom. Y'know, mass murder and the likes.

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Postby Estruia » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:43 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Life sentences are a thing.


Sure....but a shot to the arm seems more effective.


More effective at doing what? Broadcasting our hypocrisy to the world? Sure!

Death is too good for him. Let him sit in a cell and dwell on the mistakes of his life. He may not be remorseful now, but time breaks even the strongest of people.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:43 pm

The Realm of Lordaeron wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Sure....but a shot to the arm seems more effective.


It's not. It's actually more expensive, more risky and you run the potential of accidentally killing the wrong person. Plus, killing doesn't bring back the dead, it just satiates our perverted human desire for social vengeance.


Ehhh...I always hear people say a lethal shot is more expensive than life in prison. How does that work?

True, thats why you rarely use it. And sometimes vengeance is good.

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Postby Populi-Terrae » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:43 pm

While I agree that Dylan Roof should be punished for his atrocities, capital punishment is not the way to do it.

if you kill him, you risk turning him into a martyr for white nationalists and Neo-Nazis. I think it is better off to let him grow old and die in prison, or arrange a 'accident' with a cell block full of black inmates.
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Postby The Realm of Lordaeron » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:44 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
The Realm of Lordaeron wrote:
I disagree, the death penalty is never appropriate. Humans have a right to life, even the scummiest humans. Plus the chance of accidentally killing an innocent man , and the fact it cost more to execute someone than imprison them for life, has lead me to believe that the death penalty should be abolished.

That's on top of all the moral consequences of the death penalty.


I just think it should be used sparingly, very seldom. Y'know, mass murder and the likes.


So we hold him around and kill him 20 years for now, spending all that extra cash, just for some sense of final justice?

Pointless, waste of money and doesn't bring back the dead.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:44 pm

The only thing bad about him being sentenced to death is that he'll be in solitary confinement and able to cost millions in appeals. Life would be cheaper.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:44 pm

The Realm of Lordaeron wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I just think it should be used sparingly, very seldom. Y'know, mass murder and the likes.


So we hold him around and kill him 20 years for now, spending all that extra cash, just for some sense of final justice?

Pointless, waste of money and doesn't bring back the dead.


You may have a point..

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:46 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Life sentences are a thing.


Sure....but a shot to the arm seems more effective.

It'll actually be more expensive and take years.


Saiwania wrote:Practically speaking, doesn't this mean that he'll spend a decade or longer on death row?

Probably.


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Estruia wrote:
We teach people that killing is wrong... by killing people. Yeah, that totally makes sense. He's a monster for what he did, and he will get his one day, but this whole " a life for a life" mentality is downright wrong.


It's a very simple solution. If you take a life in cold blooded murderer for absolutely no reason whatsoever than to satisfy some bullshit carnal desire (Robbery or some type of crime) then you also don't deserve to live since you didn't allow that person to live their life fully and completely.

Wasn't Roof trying to start a race war rather than is being some random thing?
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:46 pm

Shit, come to think of it, the years on death row does cost more money. Taxpayers always come first, don't kill him then.

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