How do we restore democracy to the United States?

[James_xenoland]

Umm... Just a silly question here.. but,... doesn't something generally (always) have to be lost before it could be "restored"?

[Zakuvia]

Umm... Just a silly question here.. but,... doesn't something generally (always) have to be lost before it could be "restored"?

According to a lot of people here, it was never there to begin with. I am not one of those people.

The gist is that our democratic principles are being undermined, and that this is due to a systemic flaw which removes the ability of the population to determine their leadership.

[Lady Scylla]

Don't just say remove the electoral college cause it favors the republicans, you know theres more to do than that. What would you personally do to put forth a fair electoral system in the United States? Besides the electoral college, you may want to put your opinions on
-Referendums
-Prisoner Voting Rights
-Superdelegates
-Third Parties
-E-Democracy
-Voter IDs
-Run off voting

What's your opinion?

For me, I don't think anything short of a rebellion is going to fix anything.

[Alvecia]

Clearly we need an advanced form of materialistic democracy, where citizens are required by law to carry an implant which enables them to instantly cast their vote during referendums.
It gives a 10% happiness boost, so everyone should be cool with it

[Genivaria]

I do think that prisoners should be granted the right to vote while in prison. However only the ones that are not held in maximum security will get to vote, and for the time being it should be a state by state thing.

The right to vote is one of those things that should be lost in prison.

And your justification for this is what?

[Dumb Ideologies]

Repeal the Declaration of Independence and make America Great Britain again.

[Ifreann]

Many animals will need to be sacrificed to the god of voting, Democritus.

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Deport George Soros, and dismantle his network of agitators and covert ops.

You can never get us all. Cut off one Soros funded head, two more take its place.

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... America isn't a democracy, it is a republic.

Where do people get this weird idea that the two are mutually exclusive? I'd never come across it until I came to NSG.

And now that you have come to NSG, you can't get away from it.

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Don't just say remove the electoral college cause it favors the republicans, you know theres more to do than that. What would you personally do to put forth a fair electoral system in the United States? Besides the electoral college, you may want to put your opinions on
-Referendums
-Prisoner Voting Rights
-Superdelegates
-Third Parties
-E-Democracy
-Voter IDs
-Run off voting

What's your opinion?

For me, I don't think anything short of a rebellion is going to fix anything.

Bah, that's the Texas answer to everything.

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Clearly we need an advanced form of materialistic democracy, where citizens are required by law to carry an implant which enables them to instantly cast their vote during referendums.
It gives a 10% happiness boost, so everyone should be cool with it

I like the way you think.

[Genivaria]

Clearly we need an advanced form of materialistic democracy, where citizens are required by law to carry an implant which enables them to instantly cast their vote during referendums.
It gives a 10% happiness boost, so everyone should be cool with it

Dude...take a break from Stellaris.

[Ifreann]

Repeal the Declaration of Independence and make America Great Britain again.

The Queen might not be able to handle so much new territory, what with her poor health. She'll need a governor-general. I hear Nigel Farage is looking for work.

[The United Front of China]

Kick everyone in an official government office out then start from scratch, filling each position with everyday people, if they do not do their jobs properly instantly kick them out, as far as voters go. In every time voting season comes around only registered US residents should be able to vote. And keep corporations out of the US government, if a US congressman or senator takes money from large businesses or any businesses at all they should be kicked out of office. No exception.

[Genivaria]

Kick everyone in an official government office out then start from scratch, filling each position with everyday people, if they do not do their jobs properly instantly kick them out, as far as voters go. In every time voting season comes around only registered US residents should be able to vote. And keep corporations out of the US government, if a US congressman or senator takes money from large businesses or any businesses at all they should be kicked out of office. No exception.

Ah the 'start over from scratch' line.
Simple, straight to the point, and worthless as a solution.

[Genivaria]

Repeal the Declaration of Independence and make America Great Britain again.

The Queen might not be able to handle so much new territory, what with her poor health. She'll need a governor-general. I hear Nigel Farage is looking for work.

Dear god no.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

The Queen might not be able to handle so much new territory, what with her poor health. She'll need a governor-general. I hear Nigel Farage is looking for work.

Dear god no.

Dear God yes. :^)

[Kalosia]

Wait, why shouldn't prisoners have the right to vote? I don't understand.

I actually didn't know that was a thing, so I have no stance. But on a whim, I don't see why they should be denied the right to vote.

[Ifreann]

Dear god no.

Dear God yes. :^)

America might not like their new ruler, but at least Europe will be rid of him.

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Wait, why shouldn't prisoners have the right to vote? I don't understand.

I actually didn't know that was a thing, so I have no stance. But on a whim, I don't see why they should be denied the right to vote.

It's not only prisoners. Felons lose the right to vote forever in some states, even after they're released.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Dear God yes. :^)

America might not like their new ruler, but at least Europe will be rid of him.

Split the USA into a number of colonies and make him the Governor of the one further-est from Europe.

[Ifreann]

America might not like their new ruler, but at least Europe will be rid of him.

Split the USA into a number of colonies and make him the Governor of the one further-est from Europe.

Governor General of Little Diomede it is.

[Community Values]

Nothing because America is already a democracy.

But to make it better, just get rid of the electoral college, decentralize, and implement a parliament.

Maybe then we'd have a few libertarians in government.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Split the USA into a number of colonies and make him the Governor of the one further-est from Europe.

Governor General of Little Diomede it is.

Agreed.

[PFQ Recruiting Office]

Invade it. Simple.

Jk but seriously, I think the US needs serious reforms if democracy is ever going to be restored.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Invade it. Simple.

Jk but seriously, I think the US needs serious reforms if democracy is ever going to be restored.

The United States is not a direct democracy, in the sense of a country in which laws (and other government decisions) are made predominantly by majority vote.

[PFQ Recruiting Office]

Invade it. Simple.

Jk but seriously, I think the US needs serious reforms if democracy is ever going to be restored.

The United States is not a direct democracy, in the sense of a country in which laws (and other government decisions) are made predominantly by majority vote.

I know, but this system is really not effective. But what do I know about American democracy?

[Hirota]

Invade it. Simple.

Jk but seriously, I think the US needs serious reforms if democracy is ever going to be restored.

The United States is not a direct democracy, in the sense of a country in which laws (and other government decisions) are made predominantly by majority vote.

Indeed, direct democracy isn't really a government anywhere in the world (other than a couple of districts in Switzerland I think?)

Of course, with technology we could get closer to the vision presented by Ifreann and Stellaris and perhaps offer a form of direct democracy powered by e-democracy.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

The United States is not a direct democracy, in the sense of a country in which laws (and other government decisions) are made predominantly by majority vote.

I know, but this system is really not effective. But what do I know about American democracy?

The systems effectiveness is irrelevant to the discussion in which we are having. What do you know about American democracy? I don't know the extent of your knowledge upon the subject. What I do know is that your original post implies that America didn't have any type of democracy at this moment in time; this is the idea I gathered from you using the words " if democracy is ever going to be restored."

[FelrikTheDeleted]

The United States is not a direct democracy, in the sense of a country in which laws (and other government decisions) are made predominantly by majority vote.

Indeed, direct democracy isn't really a government anywhere in the world (other than a couple of districts in Switzerland I think?)

Of course, with technology we could get closer to the vision presented by Ifreann and Stellaris and perhaps offer a form of direct democracy powered by e-democracy.

What?