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Which world faith will last longest?

Christianity-Roman Catholic
21
15%
Christianity-Protestant or Other
26
19%
Judaism
7
5%
Islam
10
7%
Hinduism
8
6%
Buddhism
7
5%
Satanism
2
1%
Atheism
41
30%
Other
16
12%
 
Total votes : 138

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JJ Place
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Postby JJ Place » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:00 pm

Maurepas wrote:
JJ Place wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
JJ Place wrote:

Maurepas wrote:
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Kreigan wrote:
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HunterBradleyLand wrote:Which RL world faith is the most likely to last to the end of humans and why?

I personally feel that Atheism will last longest because with science advancing, most people will convert to the faith.


All Aboard! :palm:

Atheism is the lack of Faith. You can't stomp out Ideas and Beliefs. Something humans have tried time and time again, and failed at.


Athieism isnt a religon. a religon is a belife in somthing athiest dont belive in anything its like saying scientology is a religon


it's more of a belief; Athiesm is the rejection of religion, coupled with the belief that there is no real 'God' figure; at least that's true Athiesm. It's a lot more complicated than that; yet, there's just something about Athiesm that lingers as a 'belief'; even if that belief is the belief that other beliefs are incorrect.

That theory has been presented here many a time...and discredited

A lack of belief does not denote a belief itself, anymore than a lack of Coffee indicates a bag of fresh ground beans from the hills of Colombia, ;)


Yet, Atheism is a belief, as the belief is that there is no God, without un-questionable evidence that there is not a God. Sure, Atheism is much better than religion and other beliefs; yet Atheism itself still is essentailly a belief in and of itself. Its just not a belief as we see a belief on the surface.

No, it isnt a belief, as I explained, not holding a belief is not the same as holding one...

It is a fundamental difference, it is an acceptance that God does not exist, based on there being no proof that he does...


Then you have no proof that God does not exist as well, without truely understanding why you feel this way.

It is not my job to find said proof, it is the One's who are making the claim, i.e the Religious...

I truly understand why, do not insult my intelligence, as I have already stated, once again, do ye not understand the phrase, BURDEN OF PROOF?


Then your simply rejecting religion; why believe in something simply because the oposing argument is incorrect in many ways?

Ok, ok, ok, perhaps I Joe Bidened the last part of my responce; sorry about that. I did not mean in any way to insult your intelligence; sorry about that one. Still; it's not a proven arguement, even if the other side has falsities within its belief.
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Postby Braaainsss » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:00 pm

JJ Place wrote:
Then you still cannot disprove that he exists in some form or way?

Believe was probably the wrong word; Agnostics simply... go by what is known, and strive for a deeper understanding.


By "he" I assume you mean the Judeo-Christian god. For some reason, lots of self-proclaimed agnostics claim to withhold judgment about the existence of their culturally predominant deity, and yet have no difficulty asserting the nonexistence of Zeus, Rama, or Thor. This is not really agnosticism.

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Postby Maurepas » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:01 pm

Veilyonia wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Collective Systems wrote:Oh great; we've gotten ourselves into another Fairytale v. Science argument.

kind of inevitable in these threads though. i wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Postby Veilyonia » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:02 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Consaria wrote:Buddhism , it revolves around a simple life, which we will not have our complex one forever. The people with the simple lives will be the most prepaired.

the people best able to adapt will be the most prepared.


I'll have to rethink my statement that Christianity will last the longest. :meh:
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Postby Sailsia » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:02 pm

Maurepas wrote:
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Maurepas wrote:Catholics, they're too stubborn to die off, :p

yep, I said jews (what haven't they survived) but catholics are may last too. However, aitheisim is most likely to last, in reality, it is probably the oldest belief, no matter how many few have believed in it.

I do not accept that Atheism belongs in the category of "longest lasting religion", being that it isnt one...

technically, that is true, it is however, a belief
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Postby Wilgrove » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:03 pm

Any and all forms of Paganism! We're the comeback kids! :D

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Postby Maurepas » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:03 pm

JJ Place wrote:
Then your simply rejecting religion; why believe in something simply because the oposing argument is incorrect in many ways?

Ok, ok, ok, perhaps I Joe Bidened the last part of my responce; sorry about that. I did not mean in any way to insult your intelligence; sorry about that one. Still; it's not a proven arguement, even if the other side has falsities within its belief.

The problem is, Atheism isnt making an argument, it is doubting the validity of the arguments from the opposing side, i.e Theism...

Therefore, there is only one side with an argument to prove, the Theists...
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Postby The Candy Lane » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:03 pm

Vesser wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
JJ Place wrote:
HunterBradleyLand wrote:Which RL world faith is the most likely to last to the end of humans and why?

I personally feel that Atheism will last longest because with science advancing, most people will convert to the faith.


Agnosism; all of the others, including Athiesm, can be disproven

The only way to disprove Atheism is for there to be a real God...

So...Agnostics somehow believe in God? :blink:


Agnostics believe that there is no way to prove either way, so they're playing it safe. If there is a god, they're not denouncing him. If there isn't, they're not denouncing Science.

You can't disprove religion because you can't see God. You can't disprove Science because there is to much to back it up.

Umm.. science is constantly disproving science. thats how we come about with new theories. for example science used to teach that the continents on the earth moved because of the earths spin/rotation. now science teaches plate tectonics. theories are constantly changing wether its a darwinian theory or an environmental one.
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:04 pm

Sailsia wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Sailsia wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Catholics, they're too stubborn to die off, :p

yep, I said jews (what haven't they survived) but catholics are may last too. However, aitheisim is most likely to last, in reality, it is probably the oldest belief, no matter how many few have believed in it.

I do not accept that Atheism belongs in the category of "longest lasting religion", being that it isnt one...

technically, that is true, it is however, a belief

Some of the countless threads where this has been stated and struck down are yet needed to be linked in a directory and stickied for quick access, >_>

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Postby 2nd PLT » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:04 pm

Wilgrove wrote:Any and all forms of Paganism! We're the comeback kids! :D

True too!
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Postby Tunizcha » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:04 pm

We've gone and gotten ourselves stuck in the "Atheism is: lack of faith or faith" and "Agnosticism: statement of belief or statement of knowledge" arguments again.
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Postby Tokos » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:06 pm

2nd PLT wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:Any and all forms of Paganism! We're the comeback kids! :D

True too!
We may shrink down, but we will NEVER fall permanently!


Er already did… assuming you mean European paganism and not Hinduism etc.
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Postby Tunizcha » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:06 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Sailsia wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Sailsia wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Catholics, they're too stubborn to die off, :p

yep, I said jews (what haven't they survived) but catholics are may last too. However, aitheisim is most likely to last, in reality, it is probably the oldest belief, no matter how many few have believed in it.

I do not accept that Atheism belongs in the category of "longest lasting religion", being that it isnt one...

technically, that is true, it is however, a belief

Some of the countless threads where this has been stated and struck down are yet needed to be linked in a directory and stickied for quick access, >_>

We should petition that a religion megathread be sticked. At least then we can just point to an argument brought up and all the counter-arguments in there instead of just bringing up the same shit over and over.
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:06 pm

Tunizcha wrote:We've gone and gotten ourselves stuck in the "Atheism is: lack of faith or faith" and "Agnosticism: statement of belief or statement of knowledge" arguments again.

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Postby Tungookska » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:06 pm

HunterBradleyLand wrote:Which RL world faith is the most likely to last to the end of humans and why?

I personally feel that Atheism will last longest because with science advancing, most people will convert to the faith.

P.S.: I've been getting a lot of complaints that Atheism isn't a faith, so consider it as a belief.


Atheism isn't a faith or belief.

Buddhism will last the longest since it is atheistic

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Postby Veilyonia » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:07 pm

Tungookska wrote:
HunterBradleyLand wrote:Which RL world faith is the most likely to last to the end of humans and why?

I personally feel that Atheism will last longest because with science advancing, most people will convert to the faith.

P.S.: I've been getting a lot of complaints that Atheism isn't a faith, so consider it as a belief.


Atheism isn't a faith or belief.

Buddhism will last the longest since it is atheistic


Buddhism isn't a totally atheist religion. They still believe in an "Ultimate Reality."
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Postby 2nd PLT » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:08 pm

Tokos wrote:
2nd PLT wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:Any and all forms of Paganism! We're the comeback kids! :D

True too!
We may shrink down, but we will NEVER fall permanently!


Er already did… assuming you mean European paganism and not Hinduism etc.

Well I happen to think Hinduism is one of the ones that will last the longest.
But Hinduism is not pagan.
And I meant European Paganism, which is still here.
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Postby JJ Place » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:08 pm

Braaainsss wrote:
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Then you still cannot disprove that he exists in some form or way?

Believe was probably the wrong word; Agnostics simply... go by what is known, and strive for a deeper understanding.


By "he" I assume you mean the Judeo-Christian god. For some reason, lots of self-proclaimed agnostics claim to withhold judgment about the existence of their culturally predominant deity, and yet have no difficulty asserting the nonexistence of Zeus, Rama, or Thor. This is not really agnosticism.


For the "He" I was at a lack of words regarding who "God" is, and simply refered to God in this manner. Really, if God where to exist, the force would most likely be just that: A genderless being of great force and power.



Maurepas wrote:
JJ Place wrote:
Then your simply rejecting religion; why believe in something simply because the oposing argument is incorrect in many ways?

Ok, ok, ok, perhaps I Joe Bidened the last part of my responce; sorry about that. I did not mean in any way to insult your intelligence; sorry about that one. Still; it's not a proven arguement, even if the other side has falsities within its belief.

The problem is, Atheism isnt making an argument, it is doubting the validity of the arguments from the opposing side, i.e Theism...

Therefore, there is only one side with an argument to prove, the Theists...


Yes; Atheism is making the arguement not only that religions are wrong; but that God simply does not exist.
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Postby Braaainsss » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:09 pm

Tunizcha wrote:We should petition that a religion megathread be sticked. At least then we can just point to an argument brought up and all the counter-arguments in there instead of just bringing up the same shit over and over.


Somehow I doubt that will solve anything. People who can't be bothered to look up atheism v. agnosticism on Wikipedia aren't going to read through a 1000 page thread to see if someone has already made their point.

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Postby Wilgrove » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:10 pm

Tokos wrote:
2nd PLT wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:Any and all forms of Paganism! We're the comeback kids! :D

True too!
We may shrink down, but we will NEVER fall permanently!


Er already did… assuming you mean European paganism and not Hinduism etc.


I was talking about European Paganism. *nods*

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Postby Tunizcha » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:10 pm

Veilyonia wrote:
Tungookska wrote:
HunterBradleyLand wrote:Which RL world faith is the most likely to last to the end of humans and why?

I personally feel that Atheism will last longest because with science advancing, most people will convert to the faith.

P.S.: I've been getting a lot of complaints that Atheism isn't a faith, so consider it as a belief.


Atheism isn't a faith or belief.

Buddhism will last the longest since it is atheistic


Buddhism isn't a totally atheist religion. They still believe in an "Ultimate Reality."

It's not atheistic in the way most people think of it, but it is technically. It would be more correct to call it spiritual atheism.
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Postby Tokos » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:11 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Tokos wrote:
2nd PLT wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:Any and all forms of Paganism! We're the comeback kids! :D

True too!
We may shrink down, but we will NEVER fall permanently!


Er already did… assuming you mean European paganism and not Hinduism etc.


I was talking about European Paganism. *nods*


But European paganism *has* failen permanently. Where are the sacrifices at Uppsala? Does Berlusconi ask for the blessing of Ceres?
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Postby ElJefe » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:14 pm

Judaism will win out in the end. Not only are they God's chosen ones, but people have been trying to get rid of them for thousands of years without much luck.

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Postby 2nd PLT » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:15 pm

Tokos wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
Tokos wrote:
2nd PLT wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:Any and all forms of Paganism! We're the comeback kids! :D

True too!
We may shrink down, but we will NEVER fall permanently!


Er already did… assuming you mean European paganism and not Hinduism etc.


I was talking about European Paganism. *nods*


But European paganism *has* fallen permanently. Where are the sacrifices at Uppsala? Does Berlusconi ask for the blessing of Ceres?

I think if you dug far enough you would find that kinda thing still happens, though I am an American, so I don't actively do that stuff.
By the way, by Berluconi do you mean This guy?
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