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Postby Wiztopia » Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:57 pm

Katganistan wrote:Remember the topic? Yeah. Let's get back to that.


I think I covered this thread in my last post. People should respond to it since it was pretty much the only on topic one.

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:19 pm

Sel Appa wrote:Children who get cancer and die should not be cried over. Their bodies are defective and they got cancer for a reason.


That's not necessarily true. Besides, there are some important people that have done important things with inferior bodies.
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Postby Tunizcha » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:36 pm

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Sel Appa wrote:Children who get cancer and die should not be cried over. Their bodies are defective and they got cancer for a reason.


That's not necessarily true. Besides, there are some important people that have done important things with inferior bodies.


Stephen Hawking has done much more with his eyes alone than teams of physicists who have control of their entire body have.
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Postby Katganistan » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:07 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Sel Appa wrote:Children who get cancer and die should not be cried over. Their bodies are defective and they got cancer for a reason.


That's not necessarily true. Besides, there are some important people that have done important things with inferior bodies.

Stephen Hawking, for a major one. John Forbes Nash Jr., too.
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Postby Unilisia » Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:28 am

Katganistan wrote:
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Sel Appa wrote:Children who get cancer and die should not be cried over. Their bodies are defective and they got cancer for a reason.


That's not necessarily true. Besides, there are some important people that have done important things with inferior bodies.

Stephen Hawking, for a major one. John Forbes Nash Jr., too.


I thought he had Palsy or something...
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Postby Andaluciae » Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:34 am

HunterBradleyLand wrote:...and I'm about to get beat up. Let me fill you in...

A few years back, a kid who was a grade above me got some kind of cancer. Last week, he died. I didn't know the guy very well, so I wasn't broken up like the 8th graders were, nor did I go to his funeral. I said that his death wasn't the end of the world, and some kid started lecturing me about how that was bad. Then some chick overheard and thought I didn't care that the kid died, and that I was GLAD the kid died. She went and told the whole school, and the whole 8th grade heard. a lot of them just started bitching at me, but yesterday, and 8th grader (who happened to be my neighbor) came up to me and started threatining me, saying that I was heartless for not going to the kid's funeral, and said "I'm gonna totally kick you ass".

So would you guys beat me up?

P.S., no one come here and say that I suck, because I'm geting enough of that at school.


Easiest solution is to ignore it. Trust me, the average memory-span of an eighth grader is, like, twelve seconds. They'll forget soon enough.
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Postby Blob-land » Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:42 am

A kid at my old school died during track practice. He just finished the mile run, and he had an asthma attack, and couldn't get his inhaler in time.


When we heard that a kid at the school (6th or 7th, can't remember) said that he didn't care, 10 students were on suspension for breaking both of his arms and nearly gouging out his eye.

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Postby Dakini » Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:09 am

If you didn't know (or hardly knew) the kid then why go to his funeral?

I'm not sure I'd mention why right off the bat, but I wouldn't attend someone's funeral for the sake of saving face. But then in grade 5 a girl I knew (who was actually really mean to me and I had only known her like two years) got into a bad car accident. I think she was in a coma for a while and ended up a bit on the slow side as well as paralyzed and all this business. I felt a bit bad for her and wrote her a letter and made her a bracelet... but I definitely didn't care nearly as much as the other kids in school who she was actually friends with.

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Postby Wiztopia » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:35 am

Blob-land wrote:A kid at my old school died during track practice. He just finished the mile run, and he had an asthma attack, and couldn't get his inhaler in time.


When we heard that a kid at the school (6th or 7th, can't remember) said that he didn't care, 10 students were on suspension for breaking both of his arms and nearly gouging out his eye.

Just to show, DON'T SAY STUPID THINGS! Or you'll end up like this:
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I'll just repost what I said.

Why should you truly care if the person isn't family or a friend? Yeah shit sucks and you feel sad for a bit. However, it's guaranteed if it's not family or a friend you will get over it within say a day and forget about it within a week.

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Postby Blouman Empire » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:11 pm

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Unibot wrote:In the response to him I'd say, "I hope the fuck you die too, because I think your ugly mug deserves a full centerfold in the yearbook too."

:p

But here's the thing. He used to be my BFF! :evil:


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Indeed they can they normally call them bros though, the second F or the FL means that they are in a bromance.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:18 pm

Tunizcha wrote:
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Chrobalta wrote:8th graders have the maturity of five year olds.

I agree. I should know, I'm one of them.

Seriously, I don't understand how people can get so worked up over deaths. Yes, someone close to you is gone. But you still have your memories, and I'm sure if there is some kind of afterlife, your loved ones wouldn't want you to sit around bitching and moaning.

How much do ya wanna bet they made fun of the kid who died when he was alive...


That brings up something else I wanted to say. Mourning is for the living, not for the dead. People don't actually care that the person is dead, they care that that person won't be their outlet anymore. The kid who died probably took a lot of shit from everyone else, and when he died, everyone felt guilty. To make themselves feel better, they make it seem like they actually care about the kid.


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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:23 pm

HunterBradleyLand wrote:...and I'm about to get beat up. Let me fill you in...

A few years back, a kid who was a grade above me got some kind of cancer. Last week, he died. I didn't know the guy very well, so I wasn't broken up like the 8th graders were, nor did I go to his funeral. I said that his death wasn't the end of the world, and some kid started lecturing me about how that was bad. Then some chick overheard and thought I didn't care that the kid died, and that I was GLAD the kid died. She went and told the whole school, and the whole 8th grade heard. a lot of them just started bitching at me, but yesterday, and 8th grader (who happened to be my neighbor) came up to me and started threatining me, saying that I was heartless for not going to the kid's funeral, and said "I'm gonna totally kick you ass".

So would you guys beat me up?

Yes, I would, 'cause you suck.
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You didn't go to the funeral of a kid you didn't know...
Also, you were not all distraught over the death of someone you didn't know...

I don't see what the big deal is.
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Postby JarVik » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:28 pm

Collective Systems wrote:Well, that's what happens when you say you insult someone who just died. Don't do such a thing, and people won't hate you for it. It's simple logic.



This^^

While it sounds like you didn't intend to be cruel and what not, and yes you don't need to feel pain for the passing of every person especially those whom you don't know. However, to publicly say it doesn't matter to you, in the presence of those for whom it may is in poor taste and more than a little stupid considering you have to see these people regularly for the next while.

Personally I don't feel your necessarily a complete prick (hey all 8th graders are to some extent) for saying what you did but it wasn't very smart. Those whom are grieving would rather channel their angst at you than come to terms with the passing of a friend.

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Postby Grainne Ni Malley » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:34 pm

Doesn't anybody teach kids anymore that if they have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all? I mean, I never did well with the concept, but my parents tried to teach it to me and even I know better than to anger people grieving over the recently deceased.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:35 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Sel Appa wrote:Children who get cancer and die should not be cried over. Their bodies are defective and they got cancer for a reason.


That's not necessarily true. Besides, there are some important people that have done important things with inferior bodies.


Aside from the utter lack of empathy for the suffering of fellow human beings that Sel Appa`s post exhibits.

You`d think we as a society would be past that survival of the fitest crap by now.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:43 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:Why should we care about your emotional apathy and consequences thereof?


Assault is assault, threatening to beat someone up is illegal, and no one`s supposed "emotional apathy" changes that.

Want to rethink the implications of what you posted?


Anyway, as far as the OP is concerned, my opinion is simple: tell someone in authority (teachers, parrents, etc). Do not go looking for a fight. Try to avoid a fight. Use force only when you have to in order to protect yourself. Both for ethical and legal reasons. Everyone who has advocated going and fighting this kid is being grossly irresponsible in my opinion.

Yeah, children fight all the time and usually no one does anything. But if something really bad happens, or you live in a particularly draconian school district/city, well presuming your an American, its fair to warn you that your country has quite a history of trying teens as adults. Keep that in mind.
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Postby HunterBradleyLand » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:25 pm

Update:
So no one beat me up today. Sure I got some threats and was called "the new Hitler", but no bodily harm. :)
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Postby Lizardiar » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:29 pm

greed and death wrote:Next time that 8th grader threatens to whoop your ass, simply beat the living shit out of him.


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Postby Tunizcha » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:55 pm

Blouman Empire wrote:
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Sailsia wrote:
Tunizcha wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:8th graders have the maturity of five year olds.

I agree. I should know, I'm one of them.

Seriously, I don't understand how people can get so worked up over deaths. Yes, someone close to you is gone. But you still have your memories, and I'm sure if there is some kind of afterlife, your loved ones wouldn't want you to sit around bitching and moaning.

How much do ya wanna bet they made fun of the kid who died when he was alive...


That brings up something else I wanted to say. Mourning is for the living, not for the dead. People don't actually care that the person is dead, they care that that person won't be their outlet anymore. The kid who died probably took a lot of shit from everyone else, and when he died, everyone felt guilty. To make themselves feel better, they make it seem like they actually care about the kid.


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HunterBradleyLand wrote:Update:
So no one beat me up today. Sure I got some threats and was called "the new Hitler", but no bodily harm. :)


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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:10 pm

Tunizcha wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Tunizcha wrote:
Sailsia wrote:
Tunizcha wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:8th graders have the maturity of five year olds.

I agree. I should know, I'm one of them.

Seriously, I don't understand how people can get so worked up over deaths. Yes, someone close to you is gone. But you still have your memories, and I'm sure if there is some kind of afterlife, your loved ones wouldn't want you to sit around bitching and moaning.

How much do ya wanna bet they made fun of the kid who died when he was alive...


That brings up something else I wanted to say. Mourning is for the living, not for the dead. People don't actually care that the person is dead, they care that that person won't be their outlet anymore. The kid who died probably took a lot of shit from everyone else, and when he died, everyone felt guilty. To make themselves feel better, they make it seem like they actually care about the kid.


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Anyway, I've been thinking about this some and I think these people are just feigning concern for the poor kid. Children, especially eighth graders (and trust me that I know the age group) like to identify themselves as heroic and such. They're taking advantage of the fact that this boy died to improve their self-image. Also taking into account the fact that these people displayed their disgust with the insensitive comments by resorting to violence or threats of it, I'd be willing to bet they are insecure people and therefore more likely to need to prove to themselves morally superior to others.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:12 pm

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Buffett and Colbert wrote:Why should we care about your emotional apathy and consequences thereof?


Assault is assault, threatening to beat someone up is illegal, and no one`s supposed "emotional apathy" changes that.

Want to rethink the implications of what you posted?

Point me to the part of my post that indicated I am indifferent to or condone violence. I invite you to, please. A bloggy post is bloggy. I was merely pointing that out.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:25 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:Point me to the part of my post that indicated I am indifferent to or condone violence. I invite you to, please. A bloggy post is bloggy. I was merely pointing that out.


Ok, fair enough I suppose. I guess it seemed like you were saying "why should we care if someone gets beat up as a result of such and such negative action?" which to me seemed too much like "he`d be getting what`s coming to him." Perhaps I jumped to an unjustified conclusion, in which case I apologize.

That said, I don`t see what was that terrible about his post. I don`t like posts asking for advice in general, because I often don`t feel comfortable giving advice to other people I don`t know. But I`m going to presume his post wasn`t too far outside of what`s considered acceptable here, or it would have been locked by a mod.
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