Right-Wing Discussion Thread VIII: McCarthy Was Right

[Salus Maior]

Oliver Cromwell

*triggered*

[Herskerstad]

Oliver Cromwell

*triggered*

https://youtu.be/bx27wa0SpN4?t=41

[Salus Maior]

*triggered*

https://youtu.be/bx27wa0SpN4?t=41

What an interesting sentiment. I think I've heard it used somewhere recently....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBEQ1ljkvyw

[The Liberated Territories]

cromwell did nothing wrong

[FelrikTheDeleted]

https://youtu.be/bx27wa0SpN4?t=41

What an interesting sentiment. I think I've heard it used somewhere recently....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBEQ1ljkvyw

How detestable.

[Herskerstad]

https://youtu.be/bx27wa0SpN4?t=41

What an interesting sentiment. I think I've heard it used somewhere recently....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBEQ1ljkvyw

Oh fantastic.

Now the fbi will find this and videos from isorrowsproduction on my search engine. I am as good as convicted already.

[Northern Davincia]

What an interesting sentiment. I think I've heard it used somewhere recently....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBEQ1ljkvyw

Oh fantastic.

Now the fbi will find this and videos from isorrowsproduction on my search engine. I am as good as convicted already.

You'll warm up to the reeducation camps eventually.

[Nekotani]

cromwell did nothing wrong

I read that as "Crowley" for a second there, and was about to agree.

Those are two wildly different people.

[Conscentia]

I can't decide... Evola's nonsense? Ayn Rand's nonsense? National Anarchism? Propertarianism? "Creativity"?

As someone who rejects morality, how is Ayn Rand "nonsense?"

Rand's philosophy is unsound. Soldati Senza Confini covered some of problems with Rand here, although there are more. For example, Rand's ethical egoism depends on one choosing to survive. She says "a rational ethics will tell him what principles of action are required to implement his choice". She therefore concludes that altruism is evil and so on, as I'm sure you're aware. However, in doing so she assumes that one can only choose to value one's survival or not. She fails to consider other decisions one could make. Rand does not, to my knowledge, explain why one ought not choose to value another's survival or the survival of a group or idea - such a thing could also rationally justify survival while not justifying her rational egoism, and in-fact choosing to value the survival or happiness of others above oneself would enable one to rationally justify the very altruism Rand despised. Additionally, she makes a virtue of rationality but does not justify this. There is no objective reason one ought to be rational. Like all ethical theories, Rand's egoism isn't objective and isn't self-justifying. I also find fault with the role of free will in Rand's philosophy, as I'm a hard determinist.

National anarchism is just a logical extension of anarchism. You destroy the state, you basically have infinite regional mini-states, some of them founded by Nazis.

One could argue that anarchism would have that result - but that would only mean that anarchism isn't feasible not that "national anarchism" is a logical conclusion of anarchism. Regardless, even if it were it'd still be trash.

[Nekotani]

Soldati Senza Confini covered some of problems with Rand here,

Yes, I remember reading his post. Those are a lot of objections that I have to Rand too, and one of the annoying tendencies I've noticed in some internet right-wing circles.

National anarchism is just a logical extension of anarchism. You destroy the state, you basically have infinite regional mini-states, some of them founded by Nazis.

Regardless, even if it were it'd still be trash.

How is it trash?

[Conscentia]

cromwell did nothing wrong

I read that as "Crowley" for a second there, and was about to agree.
Those are two wildly different people.

Aleister or the King of Hell?

[Nekotani]

I read that as "Crowley" for a second there, and was about to agree.
Those are two wildly different people.

Aleister or the King of Hell?

Uncle Al of course.

[Herskerstad]

Oh fantastic.

Now the fbi will find this and videos from isorrowsproduction on my search engine. I am as good as convicted already.

You'll warm up to the reeducation camps eventually.

Oh are you kidding me? All I have to do is to say I am a 14 year old migrant who made a wrong turn. Problem solved.

[Conscentia]

Regardless, even if it were it'd still be trash.

How is it trash?

It's advocates are apparently fond of pseudoscience, mysticism, and conspiracy theories. I'd such a movement qualifies as trash. Ordinarily they'd go in the same bin as New Age and New Thought sorts, except those two groups don't typically advocate race war so instead the national anarchists can go in the same bin as Nazism.

[United Muscovite Nations]

How is it trash?

It's advocates are apparently fond of pseudoscience, mysticism, and conspiracy theories. I'd such a movement qualifies as trash. Ordinarily they'd go in the same bin as New Age and New Thought sorts, except those two groups don't typically advocate race war so instead the national anarchists can go in the same bin as Nazism.

Mysticism isn't indicative of trash, most ancient religions involve some degree of mysticism.

[Grand Britannia]

You'll warm up to the reeducation camps eventually.

Oh are you kidding me? All I have to do is to say I am a 14 year old migrant who made a wrong turn. Problem solved.

Only works if you look the part.

[Conscentia]

It's advocates are apparently fond of pseudoscience, mysticism, and conspiracy theories. I'd such a movement qualifies as trash. Ordinarily they'd go in the same bin as New Age and New Thought sorts, except those two groups don't typically advocate race war so instead the national anarchists can go in the same bin as Nazism.

Mysticism isn't indicative of trash, most ancient religions involve some degree of mysticism.

I'm not a fan of most ancient religions either. Regardless, I expect you'd agree the sort of mysticism far-right sorts favour is trash - you know, stuff like racial neopaganism and Evola's esotericism.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Mysticism isn't indicative of trash, most ancient religions involve some degree of mysticism.

I'm not a fan of most ancient religions either. Regardless, I expect you'd agree the sort of mysticism far-right sorts favour is trash - you know, stuff like racial neopaganism and Evola's esotericism.

But you at least acknowledge those ancient religions are based on venerable traditions, and are more than what New Age sorts would be interested in, but are very philosophical in nature.

Neopaganism is a meme, all I know about Evola is that his work is half-baked.

[Conscentia]

But you at least acknowledge those ancient religions are based on venerable traditions, and are more than what New Age sorts would be interested in, but are very philosophical in nature.
Neopaganism is a meme, all I know about Evola is that his work is half-baked.

Only in the scientific sense coined by Dawkins.

[United Muscovite Nations]

But you at least acknowledge those ancient religions are based on venerable traditions, and are more than what New Age sorts would be interested in, but are very philosophical in nature.
Neopaganism is a meme, all I know about Evola is that his work is half-baked.

Only in the scientific sense coined by Dawkins.

I say Neopaganism is a meme because it isn't actually based on anything except historical interest in wiped out traditions that we actually know very little about. I don't think it constitutes a religious practice. I'm more inclined to take actual Paganism (i.e. with continuous traditional practices dating back a long time) a legitimate spiritual practice (though I still consider it incorrect, and idolatry).

[Herskerstad]

Oh are you kidding me? All I have to do is to say I am a 14 year old migrant who made a wrong turn. Problem solved.

Only works if you look the part.

Trans-racial.

Checkmate.

[Nekotani]

I'm not a fan of most ancient religions either. Regardless, I expect you'd agree the sort of mysticism far-right sorts favour is trash - you know, stuff like racial neopaganism and Evola's esotericism.

But you at least acknowledge those ancient religions are based on venerable traditions, and are more than what New Age sorts would be interested in, but are very philosophical in nature.

Neopaganism is a meme, all I know about Evola is that his work is half-baked.

He did write some interesting things on certain traditions, and he's a valuable read if you're interested in learning about other (better) conservative writers of the era, though a lot of what he wrote was divorced from (actual) tradition.

[United Muscovite Nations]

But you at least acknowledge those ancient religions are based on venerable traditions, and are more than what New Age sorts would be interested in, but are very philosophical in nature.

Neopaganism is a meme, all I know about Evola is that his work is half-baked.

He did write some interesting things on certain traditions, and he's a valuable read if you're interested in learning about other (better) conservative writers of the era, though a lot of what he wrote was divorced from (actual) tradition.

Interesting.

[Conscentia]

Only in the scientific sense coined by Dawkins.

I say Neopaganism is a meme because it isn't actually based on anything except historical interest in wiped out traditions that we actually know very little about. I don't think it constitutes a religious practice. I'm more inclined to take actual Paganism (i.e. with continuous traditional practices dating back a long time) a legitimate spiritual practice (though I still consider it incorrect, and idolatry).

That'd be a reason why I said I'd ordinarily throw it in the same bin as New Age and New Thought.

[Nekotani]

How is it trash?

It's advocates are apparently fond of pseudoscience, mysticism, and conspiracy theories. I'd such a movement qualifies as trash. Ordinarily they'd go in the same bin as New Age and New Thought sorts, except those two groups don't typically advocate race war so instead the national anarchists can go in the same bin as Nazism.

I can see why pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, but why mysticism?