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Right-Wing Discussion Thread VIII: McCarthy Was Right

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Favourite Right-Wing Revolution/Uprising/Coup?

War In The Vendée, 1793 (France)
8
7%
Southern Secession, 1860 (USA)
18
15%
Boxer Rebellion, 1899 (China)
6
5%
March On Rome, 1922 (Italy)
15
12%
National Revolution, 1926 (Portugal)
1
1%
Spanish Nationalist Coup, 1936 (Spain)
16
13%
May 16 Coup, 1961 (S. Korea)
5
4%
Chilean Coup, 1973 (Chile)
14
11%
Autumn Of Nations, 1989 (International)
29
24%
Other (Please State)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 123

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Venerable Bede
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Postby Venerable Bede » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:24 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
Difference is that the fetus isn't sentient, nor can it show signs of wanting to live nor die. A child could and can.

Regardless, UMN thinks they have a soul nonetheless.

They objectively do, "soul" and "life" are simply two translations of the same word, Biblically. In both Greek and Hebrew.
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The Path to Salvation
The Way of a Pilgrim
Nihilism: The Root of the Revolution of the Modern Age
The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning, but the heart of fools is in the house of mirth. (Ecclesiastes 7:4)
A sacrifice to God is a brokenspirit; a broken and humbled heart God will not despise. (Psalm 50:19--Orthodox, Protestant 51:19)
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. (2 Corinthians 7:10)
And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you? (Luke 12:13-14)

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Postby SMS Graf Zeppelin » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:11 pm

Austrasien wrote:The Emperor Protects!

U.S. President Donald Trump is expected to sign several executive orders on Wednesday restricting immigration from Syria and six other Middle Eastern or African countries, according to several congressional aides and immigration experts briefed on the matter.

In addition to Syria, Trump's orders are expected to temporarily restrict access to the United States for most refugees. Another order will block visas from being issued to Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, said the aides and experts, who asked not to be identified.

Trump's restrictions on refugees are likely to include a multi-month ban on admissions from all countries until the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security can increase the intensity of the vetting process.


Common sense about to come flooding back in to immigration policy.


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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:25 pm

America is already pretty damn safe... I mean, other than from themselves, and maybe not integrating African Americans, but that has less to do with immigration policy and more domestic policies.
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Postby The East Marches » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:37 pm

Mattopilos wrote:America is already pretty damn safe... I mean, other than from themselves, and maybe not integrating African Americans, but that has less to do with immigration policy and more domestic policies.


>letting wahhabis that our own muslims don't want because ideology

Nah fam that's retarded
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Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:46 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:America is already pretty damn safe... I mean, other than from themselves, and maybe not integrating African Americans, but that has less to do with immigration policy and more domestic policies.


>letting wahhabis that our own muslims don't want because ideology

Nah fam that's retarded


You managed to do well with integration so far... I mean, compared to the shithole that Europe is. If the idea is to slow immigration down, I don't see that as harmful. I am talking if this is full-on "No one enters" crap.
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Cons: Capitalism, Free market, Gnostic atheism and theism, the far right, intolerance of any kind, dictatorships, pseudoscience and snake-oil peddling, imperialism and overuse of military, liberalism, radical and liberal feminism

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The East Marches
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Postby The East Marches » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:50 pm

Mattopilos wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
>letting wahhabis that our own muslims don't want because ideology

Nah fam that's retarded


You managed to do well with integration so far... I mean, compared to the shithole that Europe is. If the idea is to slow immigration down, I don't see that as harmful. I am talking if this is full-on "No one enters" crap.


Why not? What is so wrong about it? Last I heard we are still taking Naru types after 2 interviews and a year for a background check. Not only that but we have gotta be safe with the Syrian war winding down. We don't want Assad's ash and trash.
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Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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The United Colonies of Earth
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:55 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
You managed to do well with integration so far... I mean, compared to the shithole that Europe is. If the idea is to slow immigration down, I don't see that as harmful. I am talking if this is full-on "No one enters" crap.


Why not? What is so wrong about it? Last I heard we are still taking Naru types after 2 interviews and a year for a background check. Not only that but we have gotta be safe with the Syrian war winding down. We don't want Assad's ash and trash.

I thought Assad would be busy making sure they all got jobs killing rebel sympathizers. And what's "Naru types" refer to?
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Postby The East Marches » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:58 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Why not? What is so wrong about it? Last I heard we are still taking Naru types after 2 interviews and a year for a background check. Not only that but we have gotta be safe with the Syrian war winding down. We don't want Assad's ash and trash.

I thought Assad would be busy making sure they all got jobs killing rebel sympathizers. And what's "Naru types" refer to?


We are taking legit refugees off the hands of the Australians and their detention island of doom. Nah, Assad will kick and let the West deal with all his undesirables in the name of refugees. It's how you get rid of criminal elements or fighters you don't want to spend money rehabilitating. It's passing on the cost the West. Effectively making us demobilize many a young former soldier. That is a complicated process in and of itself.
Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:02 pm

The East Marches wrote:
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:I thought Assad would be busy making sure they all got jobs killing rebel sympathizers. And what's "Naru types" refer to?


We are taking legit refugees off the hands of the Australians and their detention island of doom. Nah, Assad will kick and let the West deal with all his undesirables in the name of refugees. It's how you get rid of criminal elements or fighters you don't want to spend money rehabilitating. It's passing on the cost the West. Effectively making us demobilize many a young former soldier. That is a complicated process in and of itself.

Well, hopefully we don't take in wahhabists from there. As for Assad, I'm outraged that he's going to pull that. For Syria, the EU should just pull an about-face and have them all banned for seven months or something just to spite him.
e: I don't know much about demobilization but given that we passed an important law to handle it after World War II I can believe it's important.
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Postby HokusPOTUS » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:08 pm

Was there any surprise when after the inauguration, Anti-Fa started breaking peoples stuff after Falcon punching Sean Spencer?
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Postby The East Marches » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:08 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
We are taking legit refugees off the hands of the Australians and their detention island of doom. Nah, Assad will kick and let the West deal with all his undesirables in the name of refugees. It's how you get rid of criminal elements or fighters you don't want to spend money rehabilitating. It's passing on the cost the West. Effectively making us demobilize many a young former soldier. That is a complicated process in and of itself.

Well, hopefully we don't take in wahhabists from there. As for Assad, I'm outraged that he's going to pull that. For Syria, the EU should just pull an about-face and have them all banned for seven months or something just to spite him.
e: I don't know much about demobilization but given that we passed an important law to handle it after World War II I can believe it's important.


Demobilizing men after a major conflict is tough if they werent professional soldiers. Done wrong, you get lots of bitter young men with a grudge going home well armed and no job to look towards (ex Germany WW1). Doing this for foreigners whose psychological is probably all kinds of jacked up is not something that we ought to be doing. I don't know much about mass demobilization myself. I only know the consquences of what happens if you fuck it up and how seriously, as you do, we took it in the states. Taking women and children blah blah we can do that in some number once processed. Taking in a 100,000 young military age men in a batch of say 250,000 is not economically fesible for us to do.
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Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:34 pm

HokusPOTUS wrote:Was there any surprise when after the inauguration, Anti-Fa started breaking peoples stuff after Falcon punching Sean Spencer?


They tend to do that, so no duh. And I think you refer more to Black Bloc in general, since Antifa tends to work on more local projects... and punching Nazis.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:36 pm

The East Marches wrote:We are taking legit refugees off the hands of the Australians and their detention island of doom.


Whats this about Naru? If I may ask so.
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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:37 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
The East Marches wrote:We are taking legit refugees off the hands of the Australians and their detention island of doom.


Whats this about Naru?


That we Aussies love dumping crap on other countries. We are good at that :^)
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my political compass:Economic Left/Right: -8.88
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Pros:Anarchy, Communism (not that of Stalin or Mao), abortion rights, LGBTI rights, secularism i.e. SOCAS, Agnostic atheism, free speech (within reason), science, most dark humor, dialectic egoism, anarcha-feminism.
Cons: Capitalism, Free market, Gnostic atheism and theism, the far right, intolerance of any kind, dictatorships, pseudoscience and snake-oil peddling, imperialism and overuse of military, liberalism, radical and liberal feminism

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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:39 pm

Mattopilos wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Whats this about Naru?


That we Aussies love dumping crap on other countries. We are good at that :^)


The United States Of America, by their own volitional, chose to take the refugees; whatever woe they receive is of their own doing I believe.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:42 pm

Mattopilos wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Whats this about Naru?


That we Aussies love dumping crap on other countries. We are good at that :^)


Time for a shrimp on the barbie and a fosters lager!


Bastards!
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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:43 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
That we Aussies love dumping crap on other countries. We are good at that :^)


They chose to take them; it is of their own doing.


Yeah, mostly due to the fact a much larger country such as ours didn't decide to.
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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:44 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
That we Aussies love dumping crap on other countries. We are good at that :^)


Time for a shrimp on the barbie and a fosters lager!


Bastards!


That be all tomorrow for me! :^)
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Pros:Anarchy, Communism (not that of Stalin or Mao), abortion rights, LGBTI rights, secularism i.e. SOCAS, Agnostic atheism, free speech (within reason), science, most dark humor, dialectic egoism, anarcha-feminism.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:47 pm

Mattopilos wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
They chose to take them; it is of their own doing.


Yeah, mostly due to the fact a much larger country such as ours didn't decide to.


Which is completely justified. It is the preferred option for myself.
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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:49 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
Yeah, mostly due to the fact a much larger country such as ours didn't decide to.


Which is completely justified. It is the preferred option for myself.


I.e. best fuck up the small countries.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:57 pm

Mattopilos wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Which is completely justified. It is the preferred option for myself.


I.e. best fuck up the small countries.


The smaller country in question (Papua New Guinea) was in agreeance with taking and detaining the refugees; if they haven't then their would have been an uproar among the Oceanic island nations, to my knowledge no such uproar took place. Let us not pretend in the fact that Papua New Guinea isn't already "fucked up".

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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:00 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
I.e. best fuck up the small countries.


The smaller country in question (Papua New Guinea) was in agreeance with taking and detaining the refugees; if they haven't then their would have been an uproar among the Oceanic island nations, to my knowledge no such uproar took place. Let us not pretend in the fact that Papua New Guinea isn't already "fucked up".


Yeah, it fucked up gewd... we are pretty much the only, ahem, "Good" functioning nation in Oceania. I simply don't think it was the best idea. Honestly I would think spreading it out as much as possible, allowing for the processing of the max amount of refugees without overwhelming the system. I have a feeling logistics for that would be more complicated, but far more effective than "Your problem now :^)".
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Postby HokusPOTUS » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:00 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
I.e. best fuck up the small countries.


The smaller country in question (Papua New Guinea) was in agreeance with taking and detaining the refugees; if they haven't then their would have been an uproar among the Oceanic island nations, to my knowledge no such uproar took place. Let us not pretend in the fact that Papua New Guinea isn't already "fucked up".


Then the solution shouldn't be fuck it up more.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:08 pm

Mattopilos wrote:Yeah, it fucked up gewd... we are pretty much the only, ahem, "Good" functioning nation in Oceania. [...]


New Zealand being the only other nation within Oceania in which one could consider "Unfucked".

Mattopilos wrote:[...] Honestly I would think spreading it out as much as possible, allowing for the processing of the max amount of refugees without overwhelming the system. [...]


Perhaps you are correct. Unfortunately "refugees" (A term I use lightly considering the amount of economic immigrants that mix in with the actual refugees) aren't a popular group of people as of the current date.

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