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Favourite Right-Wing Revolution/Uprising/Coup?

War In The Vendée, 1793 (France)
8
7%
Southern Secession, 1860 (USA)
18
15%
Boxer Rebellion, 1899 (China)
6
5%
March On Rome, 1922 (Italy)
15
12%
National Revolution, 1926 (Portugal)
1
1%
Spanish Nationalist Coup, 1936 (Spain)
16
13%
May 16 Coup, 1961 (S. Korea)
5
4%
Chilean Coup, 1973 (Chile)
14
11%
Autumn Of Nations, 1989 (International)
29
24%
Other (Please State)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 123

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Postby Antoura » Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:14 pm

Singularity Multiversal Travel Empire wrote:
Antoura wrote:I'm all about the Boxer Rebellion. Their gongfu was strong.

It shall last forever in history, not so much in monuments commemorating their victory.


Victory is overrated.

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Postby Singularity Multiversal Travel Empire » Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:15 pm

Antoura wrote:
Singularity Multiversal Travel Empire wrote:It shall last forever in history, not so much in monuments commemorating their victory.


Victory is overrated.

I suppose- it's best sought out by those who wish for power anyway.
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:47 pm

Antoura wrote:
Singularity Multiversal Travel Empire wrote:It shall last forever in history, not so much in monuments commemorating their victory.


Victory is overrated.

Can't stop winning

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Postby Greater Allidron » Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:02 pm

What is right wing?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:07 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Is Bonapartism Right Wing? Was it Right Wing compared to the French Revolution?

Bonaparte was left-wing, Bonapartism is right-wing.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:28 pm

I fancy the May 16 Coup under Park Chung-hee. While controversial, South Korea's development during the regime is noteworthy I think.

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Postby Gim » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:11 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:I fancy the May 16 Coup under Park Chung-hee. While controversial, South Korea's development during the regime is noteworthy I think.


Did you study Korean history?
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Postby Aelex » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:43 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Is Bonapartism Right Wing? Was it Right Wing compared to the French Revolution?

Bonaparte was left-wing, Bonapartism is right-wing.

>Bonaparte
>"""left-wing"""
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Postby Gim » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:46 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Is Bonapartism Right Wing? Was it Right Wing compared to the French Revolution?

Bonaparte was left-wing, Bonapartism is right-wing.


Uh...I'm not sure about that. :?
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:15 pm

Best revolution ever: Protestant Reformation.
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Postby Individual Thought Patterns » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:36 pm

The Sauganash Union wrote:Best revolution ever: Protestant Reformation.

Yes.
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Postby Gim » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:03 pm

Individual Thought Patterns wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:Best revolution ever: Protestant Reformation.

Yes.


Because it did not contain physical harm.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:13 pm

Gim wrote:Uh...I'm not sure about that. :?

Bonaparte always saw himself as an instrument of the French Revolution and its ideals. He was an enemy of les anciens regimes of Europe.
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Postby Individual Thought Patterns » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:13 pm

Gim wrote:
Individual Thought Patterns wrote:Yes.


Because it did not contain physical harm.

Because it brought truth back to the church :^)
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Conserative Morality wrote:
Gim wrote:Uh...I'm not sure about that. :?

Bonaparte always saw himself as an instrument of the French Revolution and its ideals. He was an enemy of les anciens regimes of Europe.


Anciens regimes, as in Louis XVII?
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Gim wrote:Anciens regimes, as in Louis XVII?

Er, as a matter of technicality?
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Postby Gim » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:16 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Gim wrote:Anciens regimes, as in Louis XVII?

Er, as a matter of technicality?


Yes.
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Postby HMS Queen Elizabeth » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:27 am

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America and Britain are or were both English-speaking, Protestant, constitutionally democratic, thassalocracies with political, economic and social elites who share similar schools of thought.

America is nonconformist; Britain was Anglican. This is less obvious now. Before 1945 it was important and before 1914 it was very important.
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Postby HMS Queen Elizabeth » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:28 am

The best right wing revolution is the British Restoration. It didn't involve much actual revolution - but that is partly the point, as revolutions are inherently left wing and usually disasters.
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HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:The best right wing revolution is the British Restoration. It didn't involve much actual revolution - but that is partly the point, as revolutions are inherently left wing and usually disasters.


Industrial Revolution is pretty significant, too.
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:38 am

HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:The best right wing revolution is the British Restoration. It didn't involve much actual revolution - but that is partly the point, as revolutions are inherently left wing and usually disasters.


False. The Restoration was a Catholic coup and subversion of English liberty, propagated by the French and the Irish, eternal enemies of Britain. While Cromwell was smiling upon from heaven, William III of Orange carried out the Lord's work and finished what Cromwell intended.

Calvinism or bust.
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Postby Gim » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:39 am

The Sauganash Union wrote:
HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:The best right wing revolution is the British Restoration. It didn't involve much actual revolution - but that is partly the point, as revolutions are inherently left wing and usually disasters.


False. The Restoration was a Catholic coup and subversion of English liberty, propagated by the French and the Irish, eternal enemies of Britain. While Cromwell was smiling upon from heaven, William III of Orange carried out the Lord's work and finished what Cromwell intended.

Calvinism or bust.


I prefer Protestantism to Calvinism. Calvinism seems to be an austere version of Protestantism.
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:41 am

Gim wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:
False. The Restoration was a Catholic coup and subversion of English liberty, propagated by the French and the Irish, eternal enemies of Britain. While Cromwell was smiling upon from heaven, William III of Orange carried out the Lord's work and finished what Cromwell intended.

Calvinism or bust.


I prefer Protestantism to Calvinism. Calvinism seems to be an austere version of Protestantism.


Calvinism built the modern world. Low church Episcopalians and Presbyterians put America on their backs and climbed the hill upon which to build the shining city, while our brethren in Britain and the Netherlands went about inventing capitalism.
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Postby Gim » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:43 am

The Sauganash Union wrote:
Gim wrote:
I prefer Protestantism to Calvinism. Calvinism seems to be an austere version of Protestantism.


Calvinism built the modern world. Low church Episcopalians and Presbyterians put America on their backs and climbed the hill upon which to build the shining city, while our brethren in Britain and the Netherlands went about inventing capitalism.


You mean the Puritanism, not Calvinism? Calvinism happened only in Europe, am I wrong?
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:45 am

Gim wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:
Calvinism built the modern world. Low church Episcopalians and Presbyterians put America on their backs and climbed the hill upon which to build the shining city, while our brethren in Britain and the Netherlands went about inventing capitalism.


You mean the Puritanism, not Calvinism? Calvinism happened only in Europe, am I wrong?


Puritans were Calvinists (more in line with the Dutch and Scottish kind than the Swiss kind).

The real question is though, shall we tolerate the Lutherans? They stabbed us in the back several times in the wars against Catholics.
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