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Favourite Right-Wing Revolution/Uprising/Coup?

War In The Vendée, 1793 (France)
8
7%
Southern Secession, 1860 (USA)
18
15%
Boxer Rebellion, 1899 (China)
6
5%
March On Rome, 1922 (Italy)
15
12%
National Revolution, 1926 (Portugal)
1
1%
Spanish Nationalist Coup, 1936 (Spain)
16
13%
May 16 Coup, 1961 (S. Korea)
5
4%
Chilean Coup, 1973 (Chile)
14
11%
Autumn Of Nations, 1989 (International)
29
24%
Other (Please State)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 123

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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:46 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Individual Thought Patterns wrote:Coincidence? I think not.


*aggregate demand intensifies*


*equilibrium price increases*
*value of the marginal product of labor increases*
*demand for labor curve shifts to the right*
*unemployment rate falls*
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:46 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote: Regressive agenda #7: Disregard Linear Time - Blur the past with the present so as to demonize modern people for the actions of their ancestors.


You don't think the current economic inequalities faced by blacks have anything do with slavery or sharecropping?

No?

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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:48 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
You don't think the current economic inequalities faced by blacks have anything do with slavery or sharecropping?

No?


That doesn't seem to make any sense.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:49 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:That doesn't seem to make any sense.

People who are ignorant of history are usually proudly so.
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:51 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
You don't think the current economic inequalities faced by blacks have anything do with slavery or sharecropping?

No?

If that was true, then why are the Jews so successful after thousands of years of persecution? Why are Italian Americans stable and established when they were working worse than slaves for the "white" American for decades in the early 1900s? Why don't these two groups moan, whine and blame sytemikk racyzms for their shortcomings as a community?
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:52 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:No?

If that was true, then why are the Jews so successful after thousands of years of persecution? Why are Italian Americans stable and established when they were working worse than slaves for the "white" American for decades in the early 1900s? Why don't these two groups moan, whine and blame sytemikk racyzms for their shortcomings, as a community?


The level of economic oppression faced by blacks in America eclipses the level of economic oppression faced by Italian-Americans and Jews in America.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:55 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:If that was true, then why are the Jews so successful after thousands of years of persecution?

I'd have to give you a history lesson, but I'm not sure it'd be worth the effort.
Why are Italian Americans stable and established when they were working worse than slaves for the "white" American for decades in the early 1900s?

Speaking as someone with recent Italian-American ancestry (turn of the 19th/20th century), at no point were Italians treated anywhere near as badly as blacks were. Nor were Jews in America.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:55 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:If that was true, then why are the Jews so successful after thousands of years of persecution?


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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:56 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:No?


That doesn't seem to make any sense.

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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:58 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:If that was true, then why are the Jews so successful after thousands of years of persecution? Why are Italian Americans stable and established when they were working worse than slaves for the "white" American for decades in the early 1900s? Why don't these two groups moan, whine and blame sytemikk racyzms for their shortcomings, as a community?


The level of economic oppression faced by blacks in America eclipses the level of economic oppression faced by Italian-Americans and Jews in America.

"Economic oppression" Nice use of words, but do you have any concrete law that states that blacks are less favorable economically?

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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:59 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:If that was true, then why are the Jews so successful after thousands of years of persecution?

I'd have to give you a history lesson, but I'm not sure it'd be worth the effort.
Why are Italian Americans stable and established when they were working worse than slaves for the "white" American for decades in the early 1900s?

Speaking as someone with recent Italian-American ancestry (turn of the 19th/20th century), at no point were Italians treated anywhere near as badly as blacks were. Nor were Jews in America.

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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:01 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
The level of economic oppression faced by blacks in America eclipses the level of economic oppression faced by Italian-Americans and Jews in America.

"Economic oppression" Nice use of words, but do you have any concrete law that states that blacks are less favorable economically?


In the South, blacks were forced to work for free, and then they were economically coerced to work for horrible wages on sharecropping farms that were barely different from slavery, all while being denied equal access to the same education and training as whites.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:01 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:

I don't know any American silly enough to think that oppression of African Americans, particularly in the pre-civil rights era, was limited to job discrimination.

You wouldn't happen to be a foreigner, would you?
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Postby American Imperial Realm » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:08 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:"Economic oppression" Nice use of words, but do you have any concrete law that states that blacks are less favorable economically?


In the South, blacks were forced to work for free, and then they were economically coerced to work for horrible wages on sharecropping farms that were barely different from slavery, all while being denied equal access to the same education and training as whites.


Blacks got a good deal out of slavery. Let's face it. the white man rescued them from the horrible conditions in Africa and took them to a country where today even the poorest amongst them get free cell phones, food and clean water and sanitation. the poorest African who happens to live in America is far better off than the poorest native African.

The slaves should have been more grateful if you ask me.
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:10 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:"Economic oppression" Nice use of words, but do you have any concrete law that states that blacks are less favorable economically?


In the South, blacks were forced to work for free, and then they were economically coerced to work for horrible wages on sharecropping farms that were barely different from slavery, all while being denied equal access to the same education and training as whites.

Istanbul used to be called Constantinople too.

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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:13 pm

American Imperial Realm wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
In the South, blacks were forced to work for free, and then they were economically coerced to work for horrible wages on sharecropping farms that were barely different from slavery, all while being denied equal access to the same education and training as whites.


Blacks got a good deal out of slavery. Let's face it. the white man rescued them from the horrible conditions in Africa and took them to a country where today even the poorest amongst them get free cell phones, food and clean water and sanitation. the poorest African who happens to live in America is far better off than the poorest native African.

The slaves should have been more grateful if you ask me.


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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:13 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:"Economic oppression" Nice use of words, but do you have any concrete law that states that blacks are less favorable economically?


In the South, blacks were forced to work for free, and then they were economically coerced to work for horrible wages on sharecropping farms that were barely different from slavery, all while being denied equal access to the same education and training as whites.

Also this
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:13 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
In the South, blacks were forced to work for free, and then they were economically coerced to work for horrible wages on sharecropping farms that were barely different from slavery, all while being denied equal access to the same education and training as whites.

Istanbul used to be called Constantinople too.


You don't see how this would create inequality between blacks and whites?
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Postby Individual Thought Patterns » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:14 pm

American Imperial Realm wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
In the South, blacks were forced to work for free, and then they were economically coerced to work for horrible wages on sharecropping farms that were barely different from slavery, all while being denied equal access to the same education and training as whites.


Blacks got a good deal out of slavery. Let's face it. the white man rescued them from the horrible conditions in Africa and took them to a country where today even the poorest amongst them get free cell phones, food and clean water and sanitation. the poorest African who happens to live in America is far better off than the poorest native African.

The slaves should have been more grateful if you ask me.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:15 pm

Individual Thought Patterns wrote:
American Imperial Realm wrote:
Blacks got a good deal out of slavery. Let's face it. the white man rescued them from the horrible conditions in Africa and took them to a country where today even the poorest amongst them get free cell phones, food and clean water and sanitation. the poorest African who happens to live in America is far better off than the poorest native African.

The slaves should have been more grateful if you ask me.
Erm.


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Postby Luminesa » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:15 pm

American Imperial Realm wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
In the South, blacks were forced to work for free, and then they were economically coerced to work for horrible wages on sharecropping farms that were barely different from slavery, all while being denied equal access to the same education and training as whites.


Blacks got a good deal out of slavery. Let's face it. the white man rescued them from the horrible conditions in Africa and took them to a country where today even the poorest amongst them get free cell phones, food and clean water and sanitation. the poorest African who happens to live in America is far better off than the poorest native African.

The slaves should have been more grateful if you ask me.

This had better be a joke.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:15 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Individual Thought Patterns wrote:Erm.


We must enact a massive stimulus package to develop Africa! Flying dollars everywhere!


Just ask Zimbabwe; they're got trillions.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:16 pm

Luminesa wrote:
American Imperial Realm wrote:
Blacks got a good deal out of slavery. Let's face it. the white man rescued them from the horrible conditions in Africa and took them to a country where today even the poorest amongst them get free cell phones, food and clean water and sanitation. the poorest African who happens to live in America is far better off than the poorest native African.

The slaves should have been more grateful if you ask me.

This had better be a joke.


A really shitty joke or trolling.
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Postby Greater United American Republics » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:16 pm

American Imperial Realm wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
In the South, blacks were forced to work for free, and then they were economically coerced to work for horrible wages on sharecropping farms that were barely different from slavery, all while being denied equal access to the same education and training as whites.


Blacks got a good deal out of slavery. Let's face it. the white man rescued them from the horrible conditions in Africa and took them to a country where today even the poorest amongst them get free cell phones, food and clean water and sanitation. the poorest African who happens to live in America is far better off than the poorest native African.

The slaves should have been more grateful if you ask me.



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Postby American Imperial Realm » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:17 pm

Luminesa wrote:
American Imperial Realm wrote:
Blacks got a good deal out of slavery. Let's face it. the white man rescued them from the horrible conditions in Africa and took them to a country where today even the poorest amongst them get free cell phones, food and clean water and sanitation. the poorest African who happens to live in America is far better off than the poorest native African.

The slaves should have been more grateful if you ask me.

This had better be a joke.


Even if the slaves themselves were ungrateful, their descendants ought to be thankful they don't live in the Congo, Somalia or Sudan or somewhere else similar in Africa.

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